Despite the fact that a whole third of arms and munitions eventually are handed over to Islamists, O - Polidicks

[quote]Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama [B]authorized the resupply of Syrian Kurds and the Arab-Syrian opposition as part of a strategy to put pressure on ISIS from the north and strengthen the border, according to two senior administration officials.[/B] The approval came at a National Security Council meeting on Thursday. CNN reported over the weekend that the President also emphasized to his team that the U.S. would continue to support the Syrian opposition as Russia enters the war-torn country. [B]"President Obama was clear that we intend to continue our efforts to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL in Syria and to keep supporting the moderate Syrian opposition," the official said, using another name for ISIS.[/B] While Russia has said that it is conducting military operations to wipe out ISIS, U.S. officials have questioned that aim given that many of its airstrikes have not targeted places ISIS is active. Instead, they have seen the effort mostly as a move to bolster close Moscow ally President Bashar al-Assad. The latest U.S. assessment of Moscow's activity in western Syria indicates Russia has moved several ground combat weapons and troops into the area to potentially back up Syrian forces in the field planning to attack anti-regime forces, according to two U.S. defense officials. The U.S. views the move as Russia "stepping up its ground activity" in Syria to attack those forces, rather than ISIS elements, according to one of the officials. [B]It's believed the Russians are positioning the weapons to be able to support a Syrian ground offensive, the officials said. The equipment includes several piece of artillery, as well as four BM-30 multiple-launch rocket systems -- all considered to be highly accurate weapons. The latter is capable of rapid-fire rocket launches. [/B] Several weeks ago, Russia moved about half a dozen artillery pieces into Latakia port. The U.S. originally had thought that might be for defense of the port, but the latest move is an indication of potential ground attacks in the coming days, the official said.[/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/politics/russia-ground-campaign-syria-isis/index.html[/url] [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] And so the proxy war begins

"i aint letting those damn reds in my backyard!" I mean, I'm not surprised. Kinda wish I was.

omfg, this is the fucking definition of insanity.

They think it's a game...

This is so interesting who knows what will happen next.

And this hawk president was supposed to be a left alternative and break with the past. Do we need any more proof that Obama and the Democrats are center-right and identical to the GOP? Hell Obama's foreign policy might as well revolve around avoiding whatever the conservatives consider weak.

Read the article though, its made pretty clear that the Russian forces are preparing for a ground offensive, and so far Assad hasn't been fighting Isis so the list of targets is pretty short

Injects arms into third world hellhole full of terrorism, but says we need to change our domestic gun laws.

[QUOTE=Conscript;48836778]And this hawk president was supposed to be a left alternative and break with the past. Do we need any more proof that Obama and the Democrats are center-right and identical to the GOP? Hell Obama's foreign policy might as well revolve around avoiding whatever the conservatives consider weak.[/QUOTE] Foreign policy doesn't care about the color of congress. Syria wasn't our mess, but its affecting the region as well as our allies, so it has become our mess

these retards don't learn, do they

[QUOTE=Conscript;48836778]And this hawk president was supposed to be a left alternative and break with the past. Do we need any more proof that Obama and the Democrats are center-right and identical to the GOP? Hell Obama's foreign policy might as well revolve around avoiding whatever the conservatives consider weak.[/QUOTE] Eh, fucking Jeremy Corbyn is the center for you Conscript,

Annnnnnnnnd that's the biggest, most stupidest thing Obama has ever done. Did no one learn from Charlie Wilson? You do not give guns to people who have had a history in just selling them off for money. Especially not to fight a fucking proxy war we don't need right now. Honestly I think we should be mending ties with Russia so as we don't go back to that Cold War.

Wow, so this how its going to be. I don't know why we don't just call Russia out on its shit then just sightly being annoyed and not really doing anything directly.

I feel like they should agree on Assad before they both pump resources into the region. Regardless of who is right, they are now both wrong. Looks like Syria won't be stable in anywhere near the foreseeable future.

I wonder if America is ever going to take in the refugees that result from this. Who am I kidding, they are just going to stuff Europa with the bill again in regards to that. Somehow it is our fault that America keeps arming the Middle East over and over.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;48836900] Looks like Syria won't be stable in anywhere near the foreseeable future.[/QUOTE] Pretty much, neither Assad or the hodgepodge of rebel alliances are going to be able to represent Syria or pacify Syria, even if Isis is felt with [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jordax;48836910]I wonder if America is ever going to take in the refugees that result from this. Who am I kidding, they are just going to stuff Europa with the bill again in regards to that. Somehow it is our fault that America keeps arming the Middle East over and over.[/QUOTE] You know china and Russia has been flooding the conflict with arms since the beginning.... Where's the response to the refugees from Russia or china?

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;48836900]I feel like they should agree on Assad before they both pump resources into the region. Regardless of who is right, they are now both wrong. Looks like Syria won't be stable in anywhere near the foreseeable future.[/QUOTE] They don't agree with Assad, that's the whole point. The US has stated, in this article, that despite Russia's backing of Assad, the US will continue to arm the FSA against him as much as the Islamic State.

Article says nothing about one third of arms being given to islamists. Do you have a source?

[QUOTE=proboardslol;48837129]Article says nothing about one third of arms being given to islamists. Do you have a source?[/QUOTE] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1487233&highlight=[/url]

Okay? so it says [quote]"Unfortunately, we learned late today that the NSF (New Syrian Forces) unit now says it did, in fact, provide six pickup trucks and a portion of their ammunition to a suspected al-Nusra Front [group]," Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said on Friday.[/quote] Nowhere there does it say that a third of our aid is being given to Islamists. You're just making shit up to further your own views

[QUOTE=proboardslol;48837240]Okay? so it says Nowhere there does it say that a third of our aid is being given to Islamists. You're just making shit up to further your own views[/QUOTE] [quote]Ryder added that the pickup vehicles and ammunition represented about 25 percent of the equipment issued to the group by the US-led coalition.[/quote] My mistake, I was 5% off. Of course, that's just to further my own views, that is.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48837259]My mistake, I was 5% off. Of course, that's just to further my own views, that is.[/QUOTE] 8%, actually. Or do you not know what a third is?

You guys are really going to miss the point with the technicalities?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48837259]My mistake, I was 5% off. Of course, that's just to further my own views, that is.[/QUOTE] Okay? Once again, it didn't say that 25% of ALL aid is given to islamists, but 25% of the aid given to this [b]one unit in the FSA[/b] was given to islamists. The article actually said absolutely nothing about the overall logistics of the aid. It's completely anecdotal. 6 trucks and some ammo.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48836673][url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/politics/russia-ground-campaign-syria-isis/index.html[/url] [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] And so the proxy war begins[/QUOTE] It began like 7 years ago lol.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;48837273]Okay? Once again, it didn't say that 25% of ALL aid is given to islamists, but 25% of the aid given to this [b]one unit in the FSA[/b] was given to islamists. The article actually said absolutely nothing about the overall logistics of the aid. It's completely anecdotal. 6 trucks and some ammo.[/QUOTE] And tow missiles that were given to the FSA, and weapons and ammo, etc, etc, etc. We've funded the FSA for years, and a lot of that has ended up with ISIS.

Fucking just stop America. There's no moderate opposition in Syria anymore, they're all Al Nusra or ISIS at this point and the Kurds only care about carving out their own territory and ISIS just happens to be in their way. We should be working together with Russia to take out ISIS but no, we just have to restart the Cold War. Can't fucking stand this shit anymore. [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] Russia intervening on behalf of Assad is honestly the best thing to happen in Syria but we have to stop it because of some petty bullshit.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;48838036]Fuck sake just tell america to stop interventing on the middle east directly or indirectly[/QUOTE] Hate to tell ya, but it ain't just America...

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48837678]And tow missiles that were given to the FSA, and weapons and ammo, etc, etc, etc. We've funded the FSA for years, and a lot of that has ended up with ISIS.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that's not true; I just want a source that says 1/3rd of our aid is given to islamists.

What is it with this many retards saying "STOP IT AMERICA JEEZ" your governments are a part of this too, so shut your sewers.