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Frederiksberg Council is set to introduce a new 'wake up' programme in order to combat truancy, Berlingske newspaper has reported. The move comes after the success of Nyborg Council’s wake-up system, which was implemented last year and has resulted in a significant decrease in absenteeism.
Similar to Nyborg, Frederiksberg will hire an employee whose job will be to ensure that school children attend school regularly and on time.
“We feel just like several other schools where kids are failing to turn up,” Margit Ørsted, the chairman of Frederiksberg’s teaching committee, told Berlingske newspaper. “A council ‘waker’ will function as an authority and show up at the child’s address and make both the parents and the child aware that they should attend school.”
Ørsted added that the employee would be available to assist parents and students with problems in the home, but stressed that it is the responsibility of the parents, and not the council, to wake children up in the morning.
“The children who do not show up at school are generally the weakest in society. If children have the skills but do not attend school, they will lose out later in life,” Ørsted said.
Merete Riisager, the children and education spokesman for Liberal Alliance, told Berlingske that it is “catastrophic” that the government wants to take over the role of parents.
“It's disheartening that we have reached the point where public employees are entering the home of youths to wake them up,” Riisager said. “It creates an expectation among young people and their parents that if they do not bother, then the public will step in. It is not the task of the government to wake up teenagers. Excessive spoon feeding of this kind often disconnects the child from the harsh realities of the global labour market.”
Dorte Gammelholm, who wakes up 16 children – and some of their parents – daily in Nyborg, said that it is usually high school boys who have problems with getting up early in the morning.
“More than half of the families are socially vulnerable, but the rest are functioning families where the parents go to work every morning before the kids go to school,” Gammelholm told Berlingske. “Sometimes it's because the children are up playing computer games and watching television until late at night or it may be that kids are just weary of school.”
For smooth functioning families who have had no contact with the council before, it can be tough to involve the strangers in family matters,” Gammelhom added. “So I do not harass the parents about it, but I tell them that it's probably a good idea if they can switch off the internet at half past eleven in the night.”[/quote]
[url]http://www.cphpost.dk/news/local/frederiksberg-council-wake-school-children[/url]
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[quote] “Sometimes it's because the children are up playing computer games and watching television until late at night or [b]it may be that kids are just weary of school.[/b]”[/quote]
if the kids are weary of school then make it so they want to go to school you fucktards, dont push your authoritarian stalin-esque wakeup regime on little kids
what next? council workers turn up to your house to make sure you're going to work?
[QUOTE=Bobie;35622404]if the kids are weary of school then make it so they want to go to school you fucktards, dont push your authoritarian stalin-esque wakeup regime on little kids
what next? council workers turn up to your house to make sure you're going to work?[/QUOTE]
Or maybe some of those kids just can't be bothered either way?
Maybe you should stop blaming others all the time, sometimes the issue is indeed with the children.
You can force them to go all you want but I know for a fact how easy it is to sit in class and still learn nothing anyway. So what difference does it make aside from better attendance records?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35622490]Or maybe some of those kids just can't be bothered either way?
Maybe you should stop blaming others all the time, sometimes the issue is indeed with the children.[/QUOTE]
sorry, i forgot that 12 years of parrot fashion was now considered an adequate education
Yeah, like this would stop them. They'd be like "I'm leaving in ten minutes..."
And then run off.
The title makes it sound like the children have been awaken from some sort of cryogenic sleep or something.
This happens in the UK for secondary education and below. As people under 16 legally have to be in education so if you are truanting too much then the school will send people round to your house in an attempt to get you back into school.
[quote] “So I do not harass the parents about it, but I tell them that it's probably a good idea if they can switch off the internet at half past eleven in the night.”[/quote]
To be honest, that's pretty reasonable advice if parents do it on schooldays, parents should take an intrest in trying to make their kid get into bed by midnight, as lack of sleep is going to harm them physically and mentally.
If the child has no inclination to learn, forcing them to stay in a room and listen won't make them learn.
You have to show them how shitty their lives could be if they don't do anything to further their future, and then maybe they will actually give a fuck
oh gee, the kids dont want to attend a building where they memorize stuff for the end of the year and forget it forever? I wonder why that might be. Clearly the solution is to force them into the school rather than spending those resources actually trying to break new ground in ways that might actually get kids interested.
[QUOTE=Coffee;35622885]This happens in the UK for secondary education and below. As people under 16 legally have to be in education so if you are truanting too much then the school will send people round to your house in an attempt to get you back into school.[/QUOTE]
Same exact thing here in Illinois.
Our school just has exemptions...
You can't miss more than 3 days otherwise you don't get it.
(If you avoid missing 3 days, and 6 lates in any one class, then you can exempt the final exam of a class you are passing)
oh cool, so now if anybody like me finds school extremely stressful they'll literally be forced to go! that's sure to help them learn what [I][B]really[/B][/I] caring for their future is!
[QUOTE=Karmah;35623830]If the child has no inclination to learn, forcing them to stay in a room and listen won't make them learn.
You have to show them how shitty their lives could be if they don't do anything to further their future, and then maybe they will actually give a fuck[/QUOTE]Frederiksberg is a long way from Detroit, so I don't think that will work. :(
Though, if I ever become a millionaire I'd love to terrorize Scandinavian children by giving them field trips to Detroit.
[QUOTE=Bobie;35622404]if the kids are weary of school then make it so they want to go to school you fucktards, dont push your authoritarian stalin-esque wakeup regime on little kids
what next? council workers turn up to your house to make sure you're going to work?[/QUOTE]
You seem to have a problem with authorities lol. In Denmark education is free, so if people don't show up it's essentially a waste of money.
Also protip: if you don't show up at work you'll get fired.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;35624743]You seem to have a problem with authorities lol. In Denmark education is free, so if people don't show up it's essentially a waste of money.
Also protip: if you don't show up at work you'll get fired.[/QUOTE]
School is free up to College in the U.S. too, and college is not mandatory. They are obviously talking about gradeschool in the article, so I don't see what you are getting at.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;35624743]You seem to have a problem with authorities lol. In Denmark education is free, so if people don't show up it's essentially a waste of money.
Also protip: if you don't show up at work you'll get fired.[/QUOTE]
all of those points are entirely irrelevant to the point i am making.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;35623903]oh gee, the kids dont want to attend a building where they memorize stuff for the end of the year and forget it forever? I wonder why that might be. Clearly the solution is to force them into the school rather than spending those resources actually trying to break new ground in ways that might actually get kids interested.[/QUOTE]
I forgot arithmetic and basic engrish
*KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*
"Hey, dumbass, [I]GET UP AND GO TO SCHOOL.[/I]"
Oh gee, a student doesn't want to go to school because he/she will be learning something he/she has probably already known for a while, instead of getting newer shit to teach, let's just force them to sit in class learning something that isn't necessary to learn again
[QUOTE=Karmah;35623830]If the child has no inclination to learn, forcing them to stay in a room and listen won't make them learn.
You have to show them how shitty their lives could be if they don't do anything to further their future, and then maybe they will actually give a fuck[/QUOTE]
Children should be learning because they should want to learn because learning is fun. Children should not be learning because they're scared shitless of the consequences. That's not the right attitude.
If a child doesn't want to be in school, don't force him. If he wants to be a failure, so be it. All he or she's going to do is disrupt the class for kids who are genuinely making an effort at their education.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;35629253]Children should be learning because they should want to learn because learning is fun. Children should not be learning because they're scared shitless of the consequences. That's not the right attitude.[/QUOTE]
This is not a "fuck you go to school". I think people have missed that the school can't actually force people to do anything. This is a service from where I see it, some people just don't get up, and they'll probably regret it later in life. This is also a way for the school to notice if a person simply doesn't get up in time ever, and those children are, as mentioned in the article, the weakest in society. This way they might be able to see families with problems, and it'll be a chance for the social workers to do something about it. It's not only a bad thing.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35631510]This is not a "fuck you go to school". I think people have missed that the school can't actually force people to do anything. This is a service from where I see it, some people just don't get up, and they'll probably regret it later in life. This is also a way for the school to notice if a person simply doesn't get up in time ever, and those children are, as mentioned in the article, the weakest in society. This way they might be able to see families with problems, and it'll be a chance for the social workers to do something about it. It's not only a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I said that in response to the following comment.
[quote]You have to show them how shitty their lives could be if they don't do anything to further their future, and then maybe they will actually give a fuck[/quote]
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;35631676]Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I said that in response to the following comment.[/QUOTE]
It's in the morning and I had to hurry a bit, must've missed that. Out of context your comment had a little different meaning. Still, my point stands, I think this isn't a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Karmah;35623830]If the child has no inclination to learn, forcing them to stay in a room and listen won't make them learn.
You have to show them how shitty their lives could be if they don't do anything to further their future, and then maybe they will actually give a fuck[/QUOTE]
People just need to be exposed to all kinds of different careers as early and often as possible. They don't see the point in learning mathematics or history, because they don't know if it's relevant to what they want to do.
The second a person knows what they want to do, they'll have the motivation to work towards it. Forcing school down someones throat without telling them why, or letting them figure out why, isn't helping anyone.
[QUOTE=Bobie;35622404]if the kids are weary of school then make it so they want to go to school you fucktards, dont push your authoritarian stalin-esque wakeup regime on little kids
what next? council workers turn up to your house to make sure you're going to work?[/QUOTE]
hey man aslong as they dont respond to a call for help or a half smoked joint in the living room ashtray by raiding a house with guns drawn shooting everyone involved and their pets I dont think you can throw those kind of words around when in america this shit happens daily now
[editline]19th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Djentleman;35630800]If a child doesn't want to be in school, don't force him. If he wants to be a failure, so be it. All he or she's going to do is disrupt the class for kids who are genuinely making an effort at their education.[/QUOTE]
oh yeah mr smart, this would be an incredibly well thought out signal to every preschooler and highschooler who once played with the idea of skipping class.
haha XD heck, why dont we just abolish school all together and then dunno man the future will work itself out right??
man sometimes I wish I had been blessed with the ignorance of facepunchers my life would be so much simpler..
Or perhaps they could consider the fact that many highschool students don't have the ability to wake up that early in the morning? I know for a fact that when I have to meet in school at 8:15 am and have to wakeup at 7am, I have a heck of a time waking up and sometimes even can't be arsed to go to school because I'm simply so tired. But I have 2 days of the week where I meet at 10am instead and have to wakeup at 8:45am instead. I have yet to stay home at ANY one of these days at all. ( Okay, perhaps one or two if I've been ill, whatever.. )
We aren't all the same and not everyone is able to wake up so early in the morning and be completely ready to learn new stuff.
[QUOTE=Bobie;35622404]if the kids are weary of school then make it so they want to go to school you fucktards, dont push your authoritarian stalin-esque wakeup regime on little kids
what next? council workers turn up to your house to make sure you're going to work?[/QUOTE]
council workers show up every 5 seconds to make sure you remember to breathe
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