Vegans and Vegetarians butthurt over £5 note containing trace elements of tallow.
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[quote]Having a fat wallet has taken on a whole new meaning. Vegans and vegetarians have voiced outrage after it emerged the new £5 notes contain tallow, a substance made from animal fat that is often used in the making of soap and candles.
The news came to light when the Bank of England replied to a question on Twitter.
"There is a trace of tallow in the polymer pellets used in the base substrate of the polymer £5 notes," it confirmed.[/quote]
[media]https://twitter.com/bankofengland/status/803273440807550976[/media]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/29/new-5-notes-contain-animal-fat-says-bank-england-drawing-anger/[/url]
now to expand that to all banknotes
[sp]im joking dont kill me[/sp]
why are they eating money?
This is ridiculous, but it looks like maybe tens of people are complaining about it tops.
Fuck me, this is some [I]prime[/I] first world problems bullshit.
Get over it, no mass recalls are going to take place just because you disagree with one component in trace values in the note. God, people will be outraged over anything it seems.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51446621]Get over it, no mass recalls are going to take place just because you disagree with one component in trace values in the note. God, people will be outraged over anything it seems.[/QUOTE]
Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?
Found the vegan
Isn't the new 5£ note/bill of that "plastic that almost feels like paper" variant that also can handle getting wet without being ruined?
Besides, shouldn't they bitch about the whole economic aspect of animal farming & slaughterhouses instead of this nonsense?
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?[/QUOTE]
You'd be goddamn suprised by the amount of products where compounds extracted from slaughtered animals are used.
If you honestly want to avoid them, then you're better off moving out into a desolate forest and living like a caveman.
Forget personal hygiene products, forget any kind of modern-ish vehicle, even forget almost all clothing articles unless you like unbleahed hemp products, because they all contain animal products.
You might be dissing the slaughter of animals, but the beancounters have realized using all parts of the animal = more money, so it's all damn well used if it can be.
Shit, you want a source? [URL="http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/9-everyday-products-you-didnt-know-had-animal-ingredients.html"]how about a hippie blog?[/URL]
[QUOTE=Exploders;51446795]Found the vegan[/QUOTE]
Acting like being a vegan makes him better than you, being a condescending twat, insults...ooh, spot-the-vegan bingo!
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?[/QUOTE]
Because cattle are raised often on land unsuited for agriculture. It is physically impossible to adequately serve the dietary needs of humanity through pure plant matter at this time.
People call this ridiculous because only a complete idiot believes that they can escape animal products. House paint is almost universally made from animals in part. Animal parts show up basically everywhere. Some metals use them during refinement, ballpoint pens use them. Car brakes sometimes make use of them. You aren't going to escape animal products because we use them in everything. This is the other thing that people miss when they accuse ranching of being damaging to the environment. The reality is that they aren't just there for burgers, but are there to supply countless industries.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51446616]Fuck me, this is some [I]prime[/I] first world problems bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I feel like you get outraged by an awful lot of things that are "first world problems"
I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian but a government unnecessarily forcing them to use something that contains something they find (to an extent justifiably) abhorrent is awful in my opinion.
Like I can see why people wouldn't want to play a part in killing animals, just because I dont feel the same way doesn't mean I think its cool to fuck them over avoidably.
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781][vegan whining][/QUOTE]
I'd rather eat hamburgers for breakfast and die of clogged arteries at 35 than become like you.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;51447049]I'd rather eat hamburgers for breakfast and die of clogged arteries at 35 than become like you.[/QUOTE]
You're more similar than you think budddddddy
Militant vegans are almost as annoying as militant meat eaters shitting on vegans
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;51447042]I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian but a government unnecessarily forcing them to use something that contains something they find (to an extent justifiably) abhorrent is awful in my opinion.
Like I can see why people wouldn't want to play a part in killing animals, just because I dont feel the same way doesn't mean I think its cool to fuck them over.[/QUOTE]
You're not forced to use £5 notes tho, most places of work pay via bank transfer, and most shops accept card. I've had no cash in my wallet for 4 weeks now, with the advent of contactless pretty much everywhere takes card, even small shops.
You can go to your bank and take out £50 in 1 and £2 coins if you wanna avoid notes for small cash things too.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;51447042]I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian but a government unnecessarily forcing them to use something that contains something they find (to an extent justifiably) abhorrent is awful in my opinion.
Like I can see why people wouldn't want to play a part in killing animals, just because I dont feel the same way doesn't mean I think its cool to fuck them over avoidably.[/QUOTE]
by participating in society you at some point are playing a part in killing animals, it is unavoidable.
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?[/QUOTE]
Did you seriously just censor the word "vegans"
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I can understand why someone makes the choice to be Vegan. But here is the kicker, not everything is going to suit that life style and sometimes the most efficient and cost efficent methods of production include animal products.
The job of the gov't is to be efficient and when it comes to money, it makes no fucking sense to produce a bill that costs more then its face value. So they can get over it, it is a bill for Christ sake. Use it or don't use it.
I would personally rather have means of production utilize every aspect of an animal then to be wasteful.
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Yes, who would've thought that veg*ns have a problem with animal products being used in a product that they may be forced to use in the future.
Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.
And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in. So if it imposes something that goes against their beliefs, why in the world would they be happy with it?
Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.
Or is not being able to eat your precious burger not a first world problem?[/QUOTE]
Im back from expanding my narrow world view. Still dont understand their retarded perspective. Sorry.
[img]http://outdooroverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/No-Such-Thing-As-A-Vegan.jpg[/img]
Let's be honest now - a fucking burger isn't what's killing these animals.
[QUOTE=Cannsixd;51447086]Did you seriously just censor the word "vegans"[/QUOTE]
No, he used the term to represent both vegans and vegetarians.
As to the thread as a whole:
To my understanding, "vegan" and "vegetarian" are more about diet than the metal in your walls and how it tangentially relates to livestock. It's pretty obvious who's insecure in this thread when they need to lash out at others for having less impact in animal cruelty simply because they don't have [I]zero[/I] relation to the industry.
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51446781]Maybe, just maybe, if you expanded your own narrow point of view, you would understand their perspective.[/quote]
I do understand their perspective [i]and I still think they're full of shit.[/i] They need to get over themselves, they need to stop asking the entire world to bend over backwards for their special snowflakeness. Big fuckin' deal there's tallow in the five pound note, so what. Most people don't use banknotes anymore anyway, if it's really that big of a bother [i]just use your debit card for everything like you most likely already do.[/i]
They're not actually being forced to use these notes. I'm pretty sure the UK is just as electronified as the US is in this matter, and I haven't handled actual cash in months. When I did, it was specifically for the vending machines in the breakroom at the walmart I worked for at the time. Now that I'm at a different company where the cantina accepts my debit card I have zero need for cash. It isn't that hard to function in the modern world without handling bills so if some special snowflake vegan shitlord wants to they can avoid a banknote containing traces of tallow without any inconvenience whatsoever.
They're bitching for the sake of bitching. If they want something worth bitching about there's plenty of factory farms still in operation, there's plenty of fur farms, abusive pet shops, et al. There's plenty of legitimate, valid, worthwhile causes they could direct their energies towards that align with their 'protect all animals/all animals are sacred' mindset, causes I personally agree with for the most part even. The trace amounts of tallow in a 5 pound note....not on the list. They need to stop crying about cash and go shut down a puppy mill.
[quote]And yes, this may be a first world problem, but guess what, that's the world they live in.[/quote] And adjusting to it is so laughably easy that I have to wonder why they're even crying about it unless it's a cry for attention. Most people don't use cash anyway, if they're truly that bothered by the trace amounts of tallow they can simply live their life with debit and credit cards like they probably already do.
[quote]Unrelated rant:
A wordly problem is climate change, none of you circle jerkers have gone plant-based, yet at least 14% of the greenhouse gas emissions come from animal agriculture. How about you get off your collective first world asses and do something about that.[/quote]
Because cow farts are not melting the glaciers. Coal fired power plants are the major contributor, follow that up with container ships. Get rid of the greenhouse gas emissions from those two sources, respectively by replacing-with-nuclear and replacing-with-nuclear, and you've gotten greenhouse gas emissions down low enough that the trend will reverse. You can safely ignore automobiles, cow farts, et al if you come down like a ton of bricks on fossil fuel electrical generation and naval propulsion.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51447083]by participating in society you at some point are playing a part in killing animals, it is unavoidable.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, the fact that we heavily rely on that sort of thing probably isn't going to seem any less outrageous to them.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;51447119][img]http://outdooroverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/No-Such-Thing-As-A-Vegan.jpg[/img]
Let's be honest now - a fucking burger isn't what's killing these animals.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this, I'll use this image next time someone calls me a monster for not being vegan.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51447243]Thanks for this, I'll use this image next time someone calls me a monster for not being vegan.[/QUOTE]
You're a monster.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;51447119][img]http://outdooroverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/No-Such-Thing-As-A-Vegan.jpg[/img]
Let's be honest now - a fucking burger isn't what's killing these animals.[/QUOTE]
To be fair this is pretty good material to say to Vegans "Hey look, we aren't just rearing them to eat you know."
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51447083]by participating in society you at some point are playing a part in killing animals, it is unavoidable.[/QUOTE]
I think going full vegan is pretty crazy and I'm not even a vegetarian but it makes sense to want to reduce our usage of animals when reasonable.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;51447251]To be fair this is pretty good material to say to Vegans "Hey look, we aren't just rearing them to eat you know."[/QUOTE]
I bet this list is going to grow even larger as extraction and refining methods advance. Gotta love science
vegans are fucking weird but i don't mind them as long as they don't do exactly the kind of shit this article is about
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