Record labels sue popular YouTube audio-ripping site
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[QUOTE]A group of record labels, including UMG, Sony Music, and Warner Bros., have filed a copyright infringement claim against a YouTube stream-ripping website, the BBC reports. The website, youtube-mp3.org, converts YouTube streams to mp3 audio files. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) calls the stream-ripping site the "world's largest," with more than 60 million users per month. The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) has given YouTube-mp3 "formal notice of intended legal action," according to the BBC.
The legal papers filed claim the scale of YouTube-mp3's copyright infringement is "enormous," and says the site is responsible for "upwards of 40 percent" of all the illegal stream-ripping in the world. The record labels want the company to pay $150,000 for each instance of copyright infringement, or all of YouTube-mp3's profits from the infringement, which would be proven at trial.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/27/13076534/youtube-ripping-lawsuit-mp3-sony-universal[/url]
Lawyers gonna law
Nooo youtube-mp3 is the best
To me, this is the equivalent of people suing gun manufacturers because a gun they made was used to kill someone, or even someone suing a food company because the food they ate made them fat. Because a customer misuses the program, the creator is now responsible for whatever the outcome be?
There are tons of sites that do the same thing. Good luck getting rid of them.
you can literally do this with a browser extension, websites just make it convenient for people who dont have them.
Except Youtube-MP3 itself isnt doing anything illegal, so fuck off.
Do they realize YouTube has links to the direct video files, and anyone with the video file and ffmpeg can do this?
[QUOTE=Disseminate;51126952]Do they realize YouTube has links to the direct video files, and anyone with the video file and ffmpeg can do this?[/QUOTE]
Oops, better sue to shut down Youtube because old men don't know how to move with the market.
OK but what about software that rips audio instead?
Clipconverter.cc is better though.
And yea this is total bullshit
Those lawyers can fuck the right off.
[QUOTE=Shirky;51126891]Because a customer misuses the program, the creator is now responsible for whatever the outcome be?[/QUOTE]
If the customer is clearly misusing the program, the company generally isn't responsible. If the customer isn't misusing the program, but rather using it for its intended purpose, then yeah, the company is responsible. What non-copyright-infringing purpose does this website serve, exactly? I struggle to think of a scenario in which I'd need a website to perform an mp3 conversion of an uploaded video to which I own the copyright.
rip :(
Sad to see Youtube-MP3 getting Megaupload'd. God knows how many times I've used it to get voice lines and sounds for mods, as well as other wacky shit.
The whole premise of youtube to mp3 as actual music downloading is awful due to the 128kbps cap of youtube and the habits of lossy mp3 conversion, however what all these sites do is take the sepearate audio file stored in youtubes servers (youtube videos are mostly an audio file and a video files played together) and convert them to mp3, so yeah it's dumb.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;51126927]you can literally do this with a browser extension, websites just make it convenient for people who dont have them.[/QUOTE]
Got a link to a good one?
[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51127140]Sad to see Youtube-MP3 getting Megaupload'd. God knows how many times I've used it to get voice lines and sounds for mods, as well as other wacky shit.[/QUOTE]
I used it just recently to get placeholder sound effects until I could come up with new ones.
jesus christ 15000 an infringement? is that [I]per download[/I]??
[QUOTE=Bynine;51127203]jesus christ 15000 an infringement? is that [I]per download[/I]??[/QUOTE]
Yeah, do you know about the Limewire lawsuit? The RIAA sued the developers for something like $72 trillion.
For one, youtube rips are fucking awful. That being said, the tools to make a program that does the same thing are available to everyone and their mother. If the music companies really view ripping music from YouTube video as a legit problem, this gesture is pretty pointless.
Let's also sue cable.manufacturers who sell male-male 3.5mm stereo audio cables, because you can plug those into any old boombox with an aux inpuy and record to any number of things depending on your hifi setup.
good luck stopping this. but wait, it literally isn't illegal to do this.
[QUOTE=froztshock;51127274]For one, youtube rips are fucking awful. That being said, the tools to make a program that does the same thing are available to everyone and their mother. If the music companies really view ripping music from YouTube video as a legit problem, this gesture is pretty pointless.[/QUOTE]
Awful in the actual rip quality or the whole concept?
Because its technically not illegal and youtube make it extremely easy to download videos
Ripping any online video/audio is completely legal here in Germany for private use and if you don't share it. :v:
I really hope the website wins, would be a shit example case for any other ripping site.
Although personally I get all my downloads via jDownlader 2. It is amazing how useful it is, since it can do everything from video site ripping, "html spider" download, direct links and one click hoster.
(Search for the adfree installer on google, thats the only problem with it.)
Get fucked, record labels.
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Fuck labels in general
[QUOTE=Shirky;51126891]To me, this is the equivalent of people suing gun manufacturers because a gun they made was used to kill someone, or even someone suing a food company because the food they ate made them fat. Because a customer misuses the program, the creator is now responsible for whatever the outcome be?[/QUOTE]
not to validate the RIAA but what other use is an audio ripping site good for? It's a question of negligence. Yeah you can argue that maybe news organisations or podcasters use it to grab audio for their programs, but the kind of traffic that these sites get that's a pretty hard sell. The attorneys will be attempting to prove that this website knowingly provided a service that allowed music piracy and made money off it. The defending attorneys will probably try to use defenses similar to p2p networks, but I'm not really familiar enough with suits around those to comment
Being honest with ourselves it's very clear that the primary use for these websites is to download music without paying for it. Whether or not you feel that is immoral, I'd really find it a hard sell to say that's not the purpose of these sites 99.5% of the time. That's a pretty hard contrast to guns which you can demonstrate have a substantial following as a target shooting hobby.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;51127832]not to validate the RIAA but what other use is an audio ripping site good for? It's a question of negligence. Yeah you can argue that maybe news organisations or podcasters use it to grab audio for their programs, but the kind of traffic that these sites get that's a pretty hard sell. The attorneys will be attempting to prove that this website knowingly provided a service that allowed music piracy and made money off it. The defending attorneys will probably try to use defenses similar to p2p networks, but I'm not really familiar enough with suits around those to comment
Being honest with ourselves it's very clear that the primary use for these websites is to download music without paying for it. Whether or not you feel that is immoral, I'd really find it a hard sell to say that's not the purpose of these sites 99.5% of the time. That's a pretty hard contrast to guns which you can demonstrate have a substantial following as a target shooting hobby.[/QUOTE]
I use the site all the time to get video game music to use in my videos. I'm sure many other content creators do the same.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;51127854]I use the site all the time to get video game music to use in my videos. I'm sure many other content creators do the same.[/QUOTE]
Unless you closely follow the narrow constraints for fair use (most people I see ripping game music don't) that's copyright infringement too, though, just not against the RIAA's direct interests.
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