Bipartisan Senate Health Bill Would Reduce Deficit by About $4 Billion Over Decade
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[quote]A bipartisan Senate health bill would reduce the deficit by almost $4 billion over the next decade without significantly affecting the number of people who have coverage, the Congressional Budget Office found in a report released Wednesday.
Sens. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.) and Patty Murray (D., Wash.), the bill’s co-sponsors, said the findings strongly bolster the case for their legislation. But a standoff between the White House, which wants more provisions to undo the Affordable Care Act, and Democrats, who reject such provisions, has left the measure stalled for now, with no clear path forward.
The Alexander-Murray bill would restore the “cost-sharing” subsidies, federal money that helps insurers offset discounts they provide for low-income consumers. It would also give states more say in implementing the ACA and expand access to lower-cost, less-robust health plans.[/quote]
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4 bn over 10 years is very modest. But, it stabilizes the ACA, saving Trump's ass and letting him boast a little, and has some small predicted benefits. Beats the current republican plan of greatly increasing the deficit while leaving fewer w/o healthcare.
And here we see why bipartisanship is the way forward. Shit gets done that actually works, that doesn't actively fuck over one side of the country for the benefit of another. And to think, one of the shitheads from my state actually did something sensible instead of prattering on about conservative values while ruining America one bill at a time!
It does this by gutting plans. Enjoy going to the doctor only to find out that you aren't covered for this particular illness.
Part of the point of the ACA was to stop shady shit like this from happening.
Seriously, at this rate for both business and financial stability, a single payer option is the only route forward. Alongside this Americans need to drop this 'don't tax me' stuff when the times we've had stable financial growth and even the building of a surplus was during times of higher taxes.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52820490]Most Americans are uneducated when it comes to how taxes actually work, big surprise.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't help that we're literally held at arms length with usage of language and legalize(Legalese?) meant to make taxes and more incredibly abstract.
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;52820477]Seriously, at this rate for both business and financial stability, a single payer option is the only route forward. Alongside this Americans need to drop this 'don't tax me' stuff when the times we've had stable financial growth and even the building of a surplus was during times of higher taxes.[/QUOTE]
I mean I understand the anti-tax side of the US. Taxes in the US largely fuck the poor and middle class. Guess who're the first to get their taxes raised? The poor and middle class. Who would have thought that most people would hate taxes when taxes are often squandered on stupid shit here and the people paying for everything are getting nothing in return while the mega rich see billions in tax cuts just thrown around for them to catch like a money wind tunnel.
[QUOTE=TestECull;52820403]And here we see why bipartisanship is the way forward. Shit gets done that actually works, that doesn't actively fuck over one side of the country for the benefit of another. And to think, one of the shitheads from my state actually did something sensible instead of prattering on about conservative values while ruining America one bill at a time![/QUOTE]
Senators are always more centrist, on average, than in the House, because they have to be elected by the whole state, not just one or two counties full of ultra-conservative or ultra-liberal people and have a fear of losing election should they even blink toward the opposition.
Let's see anything like this pass the House and we can be optimistic.
I'm surprised the administration came out against this. Removing the cost-sharing subsidies was a good tactic to put pressure on Congress to form a deal; you'd think the President would lap up the first bipartisan bill that makes it to the floor as a result, even if it isn't 100% what he wanted. He's going to need to stop fence-sitting on this issue soon if he wants any meaningful reform.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52822216]I'm surprised the administration came out against this. Removing the cost-sharing subsidies was a good tactic to put pressure on Congress to form a deal; you'd think the President would lap up the first bipartisan bill that makes it to the floor as a result, even if it isn't 100% what he wanted. He's going to need to stop fence-sitting on this issue soon if he wants any meaningful reform.[/QUOTE]
Why would you think he wants any meaningful reform?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;52822573]Why would you think he wants any meaningful reform?[/QUOTE]
Fixing the regulatory framework of the health insurance industry was a rather large and popular part of the President's campaign platform. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose by simply staying quiet on the matter until the bill approaches his desk.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52822714]Fixing the regulatory framework of the health insurance industry was a rather large and popular part of the President's campaign platform. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose by simply staying quiet on the matter until the bill approaches his desk.[/QUOTE]
He's not going to care about it until his base is hurting and starts getting angry at him. You're useful idiots to him.
Draining the swamp was a big part of his platform but he's appointed corporate fatcats to almost everything. I haven't gone digging for stats to back this up, but I'm pretty confident that if I did spend the hours hunting down the numbers, I'd be able to prove that the Trump administration has a White House cabinet with a combined net worth at least one if not two or three orders of magnitude larger than the combined net worth of either Obama or George W's inauguration cabinets.
Trump isn't going to care about fixing the health care system for as long as he's able to distract his voters with random shit-flinging on Twitter and yelling about the threat of fake news media and all the rest of his shit.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52822714]Fixing the regulatory framework of the health insurance industry was a rather large and popular part of the President's campaign platform. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose by simply staying quiet on the matter until the bill approaches his desk.[/QUOTE]
"fixing" a lot of things was a lot of his platform that he's already actively worked on "Making worse".
Please just stop being an apologist for this administration and start seeing the forest for the trees.
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;52820477]Seriously, at this rate for both business and financial stability, a single payer option is the only route forward. Alongside this Americans need to drop this 'don't tax me' stuff when the times we've had stable financial growth and even the building of a surplus was during times of higher taxes.[/QUOTE]
Nobody wants increased taxes when theyre working 2 jobs to make 36k a year. Stable financial growth for the economy can't simply be blamed on tax rates.
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I mean I paid like 13 grand in taxes last year, and the company I work for paid less than that lol.
Taxes are soley on the shoulders of poor workers, not trillion dollar corporations or billionaires.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52824827]Nobody wants increased taxes when theyre working 2 jobs to make 36k a year. Stable financial growth for the economy can't simply be blamed on tax rates.
[editline]26th October 2017[/editline]
I mean I paid like 13 grand in taxes last year, and the company I work for paid less than that lol.
Taxes are soley on the shoulders of poor workers, not trillion dollar corporations or billionaires.[/QUOTE]
They shouldn't be.
Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52824866]They shouldn't be.
Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary.[/QUOTE]
What should be isn't what is.
Nobody has the balls to tax the rich anymore and anyone who tries gets immediately paid off or squashed into submission.
The poor stay poor and the rich get richer. Thats the modern American dream.
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