• Bristol University's Christian Union Bans Women From Speaking At Meetings
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[quote=Huffington Post]A university's Christian society has banned women from speaking at events and teaching at meetings, unless they are accompanied by their husband, it has been revealed. The Bristol University Christian Union (BUCU) had originally decided women would be allowed to teach at meetings after their international secretary resigned in protest, but the group has since changed its policy. The Huffington Post UK has seen the email sent out by president Matt Oliver to all BUCU members which said: "It is ok for women to teach in any CU setting... However we understand that this is a difficult issue for some and so decided that women would not teach on their own at our weekly CU meetings, as the main speaker on our Bristol CU weekend away, or as our main speaker for mission weeks. "But a husband and wife can teach together in these."[/quote] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/04/bristol-university-christian-union-ban-women-speaking-meetings_n_2236586.html[/url] Neither 'it conforms with the christian doctrine and is thus acceptable' or 'it is completely outrageous' do this any justice, considering the amount of times the Christian belief has been changed and altered over the last thousand years. Thankfully no-one can really claim to be holy enough to alter the Bible these days without meeting massive disagreement/dispute, so after a few decades it should reach the point where 'god hasn't done anything' and we will finally be free of religion and it's ridiculousness.
Fuck retards like this.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;38707090]Fuck retards like this.[/QUOTE] I'd rather they didn't procreate.
I might get dumbed for this, but does Christianity really promote gender inequality such as this?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38707073][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/04/bristol-university-christian-union-ban-women-speaking-meetings_n_2236586.html[/url] Neither 'it conforms with the christian doctrine and is thus acceptable' or 'it is completely outrageous' do this any justice, considering the amount of times the Christian belief has been changed and altered over the last thousand years. Thankfully no-one can really claim to be holy enough to alter the Bible these days without meeting massive disagreement/dispute, so after a few decades it should reach the point where 'god hasn't done anything' and we will finally be free of religion and it's ridiculousness.[/QUOTE] Right, because if a group like this does a stupid action, that means all religious people agree with it! [sp]In case you're not getting it, this was sarcasm.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;38707113]I'd rather they didn't procreate.[/QUOTE] Metaphorically fuck them, do you honestly think the average facepuncher can get into a situation to fuck anything that isn't a japanese sex pillow?
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;38707146]Metaphorically fuck them, do you honestly think the average facepuncher can get into a situation to fuck anything that isn't a japanese sex pillow?[/QUOTE] Well I don't think you can, but there's a lot of people on the rest of the website who already have.
[QUOTE=ManiacKiller;38707140]I might get dumbed for this, but does Christianity really promote gender inequality such as this?[/QUOTE] It depends on your interpretation of the bible
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;38707146]Metaphorically fuck them, do you honestly think the average facepuncher can get into a situation to fuck anything that isn't a japanese sex pillow?[/QUOTE] Some guy in OIFY fucked a dildo Checkmate
[QUOTE=ManiacKiller;38707140]I might get dumbed for this, but does Christianity really promote gender inequality such as this?[/QUOTE] Depends how we're defining Christianity; it wasn't an issue in early Christianity, as there were many cases of women being deacons/leading congregations. It seems to have crept in later (if very hazy memory serves, around the 4th century or so).
Reading this, I could only picture a crudely built pillow fort with "No girls allowed" written on machine paper using scented nontoxic marker propped up outside of it.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;38707223]Some guy in OIFY fucked a dildo Checkmate[/QUOTE] Isn't that one of the requirements to post in OIFY? :v: I don't even know the reasoning behind this decision. Do they still think women are impure or aren't educated enough?
[QUOTE=ManiacKiller;38707140]I might get dumbed for this, but does Christianity really promote gender inequality such as this?[/QUOTE] yes, one of the pillars of christianity & judaism is that the reason we're all doomed from birth is thanks to the original woman being tricked by satan and in turn tricking the original man into eating the forbidden fruit which is supposedly why women must suffer in childbirth and also be subservient to their husbands
[QUOTE=racerfan;38707145]Right, because if a group like this does a stupid action, that means all religious people agree with it! [sp]In case you're not getting it, this was sarcasm.[/sp][/QUOTE] Round about the time when Christianity was formed, women were treated horrendously, marriage was a societal agreement to connect clans together and was arranged by your parents, and you had other wives on the side. Saint Augustine comes along and [i]suddenly[/i] Marriage is a religious thing, sex is only allowed if you're married and can only be to produce a child (no pleasure aspect), and you can only marry a single woman - because back in these days Christianity is all about removing physical desires. Troubadour cults of the early Renaissance idealize the 'Woman' as a goddess/damsel/object of love for the first time in western culture, and we see this theme prevalent in Arthurian Legend, Dante's La Vita Nuova. The church feels a need to adapt due to the troubadour influence, so now they muddle these two systems up.. Despite them being horrendously contradictory. Now [i]suddenly[/i], according to Christianity - you can only marry strictly for producing a child.. yet you must marry the woman that you love and want to spend your life with (despite love being a material desire/pleasure and banished under the eyes of the God from pre-medieval, Augustine Christianity). So yeah, whatever you believe under a Christian context is completely fucked up, wrong and backwards anyway because it's been edited so many times, and ironically even manages to fuck that up, because whoever decided to edit it forgot to check what they were actually supposed to believe in the first place. These days, however, no one can declare they have the 'divine right' to alter the bible and make it more relevant, because everyone would demand proof of this divine right, and the proof would remain unable to be produced. So my point is, I don't care if they agree with it or not - my point is, it's a silly thing in general.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38707181]It depends on your interpretation of the bible[/QUOTE] "women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says." 1 Corinthians 14:34 To be fair this only covers churches, but it still says something about gender inequality.
[QUOTE=blehblehbleh;38710817]"women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says." 1 Corinthians 14:34 To be fair this only covers churches, but it still says something about gender inequality.[/QUOTE] According to some Christians I've spoken to, Church doesn't refer to a specific building, but rather any gathering of Christians discussing Christian matters/the bible/etc.
Wives must submit to their husbands as though he were the Lord: Eph 5:22 Husband is head of the wife as Christ is head of the church: Eph 5:22 As the church is subject to Christ, wives must be subject to their husbands: Eph 5:24 Slaves to masters: Tit 2:9 "in everything" Children to parents: Col 3:20 "in all things" Must submit even when mistreated and wronged: 1 Pe 2:18-23 In all things not in violation or conflict to God's laws: Acts 5:29 the bible is quite clear on it's misogynistic views
the sad thing is that the bible actually says this is the right thing to do
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38710966]Wives must submit to their husbands as though he were the Lord: Eph 5:22 Husband is head of the wife as Christ is head of the church: Eph 5:22 As the church is subject to Christ, wives must be subject to their husbands: Eph 5:24 Slaves to masters: Tit 2:9 "in everything" Children to parents: Col 3:20 "in all things" Must submit even when mistreated and wronged: 1 Pe 2:18-23 In all things not in violation or conflict to God's laws: Acts 5:29 the bible is quite clear on it's misogynistic views[/QUOTE] The people who have actually read the bible (and still believe in it) are the scariest nut-jobs. (Westboro Baptist Church, etc.)
It's why Bristol University is shit. /bias
[QUOTE=Garfy;38712576]It's why Bristol University is shit. /bias[/QUOTE] Actually it's one of the best. Not right at the top of the tree, but it's got a good reputation. A lot of people focus more on things like the amount of doctors that are Bristol alumni, rather than the views of its Christian Union.
[QUOTE=ManiacKiller;38707140]I might get dumbed for this, but does Christianity really promote gender inequality such as this?[/QUOTE] Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 1 Timothy 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; [B]anyone[/B] who does not say that the christian bible is a big crock of misogynistic bullshit is fucking deluding themselves.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38713687]Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor [B]his ass[/B], nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. [/QUOTE] This one's homophobic too.
[QUOTE=Garfy;38712576]It's why Bristol University is shit. /bias[/QUOTE] No. Bristol is an excellent university, sure it has fallen in recent years, but still in the top twenty in the country or so.
Not just Christianity, either. Abrahamic religions (Christianity and its sects, Judaism, and Islam) promote some strange things. But of course all that gets ignored because people are too lazy to read the damn books.
[QUOTE=Deprehensio;38713796]Not just Christianity, either. Abrahamic religions (Christianity and its sects, Judaism, and Islam) promote some strange things. But of course all that gets ignored because people are too lazy to read the damn books.[/QUOTE] No, it gets ignored because the majority move on with normal society. As an atheist, I find it fucking annoying that a lot of other atheists seem to believe that every religious person is some maniac. Go back to r/Atheism.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;38713814]No, it gets ignored because the majority move on with normal society. As an atheist, I find it fucking annoying that a lot of other atheists seem to believe that every religious person is some maniac. Go back to r/Atheism.[/QUOTE] they aren't a maniac but they claim to believe some maniacal things for sure. if i said i believed that a spooky man in the clouds told me not to eat apples, but a snake was telling me i should eat apples, i would be thrown into the loony bin; yet it's the fucking introduction to the christian holy book
This is basically what I take most notice of: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_and_women[/url]
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;38713814]No, it gets ignored because the majority move on with normal society. As an atheist, I find it fucking annoying that a lot of other atheists seem to believe that every religious person is some maniac. Go back to r/Atheism.[/QUOTE] religion still has a great deal of control over the world's policy.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38713835]religion still has a great deal of control over the world's policy.[/QUOTE] how is that relevant to what I said
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