[UK] Man Gets More Than 6 Years For Pointing Fake Gun At Police (video) - Polidicks

[thumb] http://www.lep.co.uk/webimage/1.7877148.1461684703!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/articleMaxWidth_620/image.jpg [/thumb] [thumb] https://cml.sad.ukrd.com/image/493029-505x334.jpg [/thumb] [quote] Today Ashley Gerrard, of Bruce Street, St Helens, was [B]jailed for more than six years[/B] by a judge at Preston Crown Court. The court heard police were called to a domestic incident in Mill Lane, Coppull at around 10.30am on December 22. Reports suggested the man had made off from the address and officers later followed a Ford Focus as it turned onto the drive of a house in Ribbleton Avenue, Preston. As the driver got out of the car, he [B]pointed a handgun at officers and pulled the trigger[/B]. Fortunately the [B]weapon did not discharge and no-one was hurt[/B]. After a brief chase down the side of the property Gerrard was detained. A firearm was recovered and was later shown to be an [B]imitation 8mm black and silver handgun[/B]. [/quote] Video is in the sources, or here: [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=526_1461688140[/url] Sources: [url]http://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/video-the-shocking-moment-a-fleeing-man-pulls-a-gun-on-cops-1-7877150[/url] [url]http://www.2br.co.uk/news/local-news/1964309/video-man-jailed-after-pointing-gun-at-police/[/url]

To be fair, if you pull a gun on a cop (real or otherwise) you better be prepared to deal with the consequences

Honestly it's amazing he wasn't shot. I mean, the gun doesn't have the bright orange tip that indicates "HEY NOT REAL" to people.

Fair enough, do stupid shit and you should exptect to be punished

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;50208327]Honestly it's amazing he wasn't shot[/QUOTE] Not really, given that this was the UK and police aren't armed with firearms

it doesn't do much for his defense that he pulled it and fired it before they determined it was a fake

[QUOTE=Trumple;50208344]Not really, given that this was the UK and police aren't armed with firearms[/QUOTE] well I'm surprised they didn't break his wrist or something, I'd be livid if some cunt pulled a fake gun on me, cop or not.

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;50208327]Honestly it's amazing he wasn't shot. I mean, the gun doesn't have the bright orange tip that indicates "HEY NOT REAL" to people.[/QUOTE] Most cops on patrol in the UK don't carry firearms considering firearm crime doesn't really happen there, outside of armed officers at airports and the like. Lucky guy, all things considered. There are probably at least a handful of places in the UK something like this could have gone a much different way.

That's a fucking realistic looking fake gun. What was he [I]thinking?[/I]

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;50208327]Honestly it's amazing he wasn't shot. I mean, the gun doesn't have the bright orange tip that indicates "HEY NOT REAL" to people.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Trumple;50208344]Not really, given that this was the UK and police aren't armed with firearms[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=evilweazel;50209356]Most cops on patrol in the UK don't carry firearms considering firearm crime doesn't really happen there, outside of armed officers at airports and the like. Lucky guy, all things considered. There are probably at least a handful of places in the UK something like this could have gone a much different way.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ThatSprite;50209403]That's a fucking realistic looking fake gun. What was he [I]thinking?[/I][/QUOTE] The UK has firearms crimes fairly often (primarily with illegal obtained firearms) and every police force in this country has a firearms squad that responds to [i]all[/i] reports of firearms. Even if it's someone holding a damn banana if someone calls in that they saw a "man with a gun" they'll respond to it. Fairly recently two men were detained in Peterborough, a firearms squad stopped their car and arrested them at gunpoint. They found no firearms and both were later released. In this instance it is lucky that it wasn't a real gun as standard officers don't carry. Some parts of the UK have different rules depending on the police force. London has a large armed police presence, particularly around the stations. Scotland has armed police 10 officers for every thousand (not including the firearms squads.) There are calls for increased armed policing from some, but lots of opposition against it. We have a very counter-gun culture here in the UK. Which while not a bad thing, isn't a good thing for those that like to shoot for sport, hunt or collect. Also for the mention of no orange tip, they're not required here in the UK; For airsoft/replica weapons since we have a policy of two-tone in a set of legally specified colours to make it legal to own or you must acquire a UKARA licence (note that the licence does [b]not[/b] grant you permission to own a realistic imitation firearm, it grants you a [b]defence from prosecution.[/b] In other words, the police and crown won't waste taxpayer money taking you to court if you haven't done anything malicious with it.) you can own certain deactivated/inoperable firearms if you're a collector.

Who the fuck points any gun to police? This kid sounds like he has major downs.

He'd be dead if this was in the US.

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;50210131]He'd be dead if this was in the US.[/QUOTE] I'll make your point more clear so people from outside the US can understand. Pointing a firearm at a police officer in the United States is a direct threat to their life. SOP, that's the basic training they receive, is to neutralize that threat through force. The moment you aim a firearm at an officer of the law, your life is forfeit. Now, they will try to talk down a suspect, obviously, but when you've already threatened death upon another individual. Regardless of if the firearm is real or not, loaded or not, or an airsoft gun. Police officers are trained to shoot first in such situations when their own lives are in danger, excluding risk of life to civilian personnel, and to eliminate the threat as expediently as possible. The reasoning behind this training is simple. Every firearm is treated a threat of life, and if you aim a firearm at a police officer, you will likely be shot. Then and there, on the spot. No question of if the gun is real, if the suspect is intending to use it, you're no longer in a standard situation. You have a choice, that choice is to take a life, or lose your own and potentially others. There is no time to decide, no time to make a second decision. Only if you're going to allow an armed suspect whom has directly threatened your life and likely the lives of others, to go free. Or worse, shoot the officer, and then from there what else? More death? More people being wounded and hurt? A hostage situation? Six years is a lenient sentence for what occurred, and the man is more than lucky to be alive.

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;50210131]He'd be dead if this was in the US.[/QUOTE] He'd be dead here in Australia as well.

[QUOTE=ViralHatred;50209575]you can own certain deactivated/inoperable firearms if you're a collector.[/QUOTE] You don't have to be a collector to own deacts or obselete calibre weapons, and there are no restrictions on what type of weapon can be owned, as long as it is proof marked. Source: I am a collector.

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;50210131]He'd be dead if this was in the US.[/QUOTE] Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160]Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] Think about the consequences if his gun was real.

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160]Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] UK is 'special' then, I guess, because everywhere else where officers normally carry a gun, he should be thanking his guardian angel if he got out alive at all. You don't just stand there with someone pointing a firearm at you and all you do is wondering if it's real or not. If it was real, you'd die and absolutely fail at your job of protecting the citizenship.

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160] US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] [I]Oh I get it[/I] It's kind of like this post.

If the gun was real at least one officer could have potentially died. Infact, it's practically a certainty that an officer would've been shot before he could have been apprehended. As soon as it's out of his waist band he has a perfectly lined up shot on that one officer and if it had been real I don't really doubt that it would've been a hit and could have killed him. So fuck this guy. Also who goes around with a BB gun hidden in their waistband like that? Even more so who fucking uses it on cops. What a dumbass.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50211883]So fuck this guy. Also who goes around with a BB gun hidden in their waistband like that? Even more so who fucking uses it on cops. What a dumbass.[/QUOTE] Anyone whose plan is to get "suicide by cops".

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160]Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] If he had done this with armed officers he'd absolutely have been shot dead, no police force in the world trains their officers to treat a gun as potentially fake

[QUOTE=download;50210836]He'd be dead here in Australia as well.[/QUOTE] He'd be dead just about anywhere else. The UK is one of the very few countries with unarmed cops. Even Japan has armed police, and they have less of a gun culture or problem than the UK, so he'd likely be dead there too.

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160]Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] This is really, really wrong. If those cops had guns they would have shot at him. Nobody assumes guns are fake, especially not cops.

[QUOTE=Sableye;50208346]it doesn't do much for his defense that he pulled it and fired it before they determined it was a fake[/QUOTE] I almost wonder if this guy didn't realize it was fake too.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50212722]He'd be dead just about anywhere else. The UK is one of the very few countries with unarmed cops. Even Japan has armed police, and they have less of a gun culture or problem than the UK, so he'd likely be dead there too.[/QUOTE] we have armed units also, stop making it out as if we havent

[QUOTE=Cliff2;50212871]I almost wonder if this guy didn't realize it was fake too.[/QUOTE] I was also going to say, if he pulled it and actively tried to fire it, you have to wonder if he bought it off a con artist thinking it was the real deal

[QUOTE=Bathtub;50208325]To be fair, if you pull a gun on a cop (real or otherwise) you better be prepared to deal with the consequences[/QUOTE] The consequences being the police in-the-moment defending themselves, sure. Why sentence someone to lose a massive chunk of their life for not actually endangering anyone?

[QUOTE=Neddy;50211160]Yeah we don't tend to just shoot people so :v: For the simple reason that it could a) not be a real firearm b) not even be a firearm altogether (Phone,Banana whatever). US tends to shoot first. Think about the consequences later/realise they were wrong later.[/QUOTE] Any armed officer would have put this guy in the ground the second it came out, more or less regardless of the country they're from. Second part of the post is actual garbage.

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;50210131]He'd be dead if this was in the US.[/QUOTE] He'd be getting 6 feet instead of 6 years.