GOP tries to undercut nuclear deal with warning to Iran - Polidicks

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican lawmakers warned the leaders of Iran on Monday that any nuclear deal they cut with President Barack Obama could expire the day he leaves office. The White House denounced the GOP's latest effort to undercut the international negotiations as a "rush to war." Monday's open letter from 47 GOP senators marked an unusually public and aggressive attempt to undermine Obama and five world powers as negotiators try to strike an initial deal by the end of March to limit Iran's nuclear programs. Republicans say a deal would be insufficient and unenforceable, and they have made a series of proposals to undercut or block it — from requiring Senate say-so on any agreement to ordering new penalty sanctions against Iran or even making a pre-emptive declaration of war. Obama, noting that some in Iran also want no part of any deal, said: "I think it's somewhat ironic that some members of Congress want to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran. It's an unusual coalition."[/QUOTE] [url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/87590b70c0d84566b27b564cded873a6/gop-senators-warning-over-us-iran-nuclear-negotiations[/url]

GOP is trying its hardest to not be reelected.

Wow, threatening a foreign country when the US has a ripe opportunity for bettering relations with it. Didn't expect this from the GOP

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;47290971]Wow, threatening a foreign country when the US has a ripe opportunity for bettering relations with it. Didn't expect this from the GOP[/QUOTE] Your avatar is literally the GOP

[t]http://i.imgur.com/3y84bbO.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/S943WYd.png[/t] [url]https://www.facebook.com/SenatorRichardBurr/posts/891598884226656[/url] List of Senators that signed the letter: [quote]Senator Tom Cotton, R-AR Senator Orrin Hatch, R-UT Senator Charles Grassley, R-IA Senator Mitch McConnell, R-KY Senator Richard Shelby, R-AL Senator John McCain, R-AZ Senator James Inhofe, R-OK Senator Pat Roberts, R-KS Senator Jeff Sessions, R-AL Senator Michael Enzi, R-WY Senator Michael Crapo, R-ID Senator Lindsey Graham, R-SC Senator John Cornyn, R-TX Senator Richard Burr, R-NC Senator John Thune, R-SD Senator Johnny Isakson, R-GA Senator David Vitter, R-LA Senator John A. Barrasso, R-WY Senator Roger Wicker, R-MS Senator Jim Risch, R-ID Senator Mark Kirk, R-IL Senator Roy Blunt, R-MO Senator Jerry Moran, R-KS Senator Rob Portman, R-OH Senator John Boozman, R-AR Senator Pat Toomey, R-PA Senator John Hoeven, R-ND Senator Marco Rubio, R-FL Senator Ron Johnson, R-WI Senator Rand Paul, R-KY Senator Mike Lee, R-UT Senator Kelly Ayotte, R-NH Senator Dean Heller, R-NV Senator Tim Scott, R-SC Senator Ted Cruz, R-TX Senator Deb Fischer, R-NE Senator Shelley Moore Capito, R-WV Senator Bill Cassidy, R-LA Senator Cory Gardner, R-CO Senator James Lankford, R-OK Senator Steve Daines, R-MT Senator Mike Rounds, R-SD Senator David Perdue, R-GA Senator Thom Tillis, R-NC Senator Joni Ernst, R-IA Senator Ben Sasse, R-NE Senator Dan Sullivan, R-AK[/quote]

goddamnit Rand

Why try to normalize relationships when you can be a giant dick?

At this moment, I'm imagining Obama trying to strike good relations with Iran and the GOP is just whining in the corner saying "I DON'T WANNA...WHHHAAAAAAA".

I knew the GOP was pretty crazy, but holy fuckshits. [I]Why in the world would you threaten another nation like that?![/I] Sadly, I'm not surprised one of my state's senators (Ted Cruz, TX) signed it. At least I didn't vote for him.

Imagine hating a black dude so much that you'd actually undermine your own nations foreign policy and threaten another country just to spite him. And possibly break federal law in the process. :suicide:

Nearly anything Obama supports, the republicans are instinctively against without any real reasons. I'm so sick and tired of party loyalty, can't these fucks ever think independently?

It's nice to see that everyone on both sides is generally getting sick of the GOPs shit. Useless rhetoric seems to be starting to fail after over-saturation.

Can somebody actually name another example of a time that the opposition party in Congress deliberately sabotaged a foreign policy deal comparable to this? It wasn't that long ago they were accusing Democrats of being terrorist sympathizers for not falling in line with Bush's foreign policy agenda. So much for all that "Disagree at home, but provide a united front to the rest of the world" bluster and bullshit.

It is time the Grand Old Party is dissolved. This is getting old.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47291691]Can somebody actually name another example of a time that the opposition party in Congress deliberately sabotaged a foreign policy deal comparable to this? It wasn't that long ago they were accusing Democrats of being terrorist sympathizers for not falling in line with Bush's foreign policy agenda. So much for all that "Disagree at home, but provide a united front to the rest of the world" bluster and bullshit.[/QUOTE] Nixon torpedoed a ceasefire which was being negotiated in '68 for Vietnam, he convinced the South Vietnamese to refuse the deal which LBJ was crafting.

GOP: we're our own government [editline]10th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MattSif;47292527]Nixon torpedoed a ceasefire which was being negotiated in '68 for Vietnam, he convinced the South Vietnamese to refuse the deal which LBJ was crafting.[/QUOTE] eh the clear political advantage asside, the NV government had nothing really to gain by any peace deal with the south at that point, it wasn't really till nixon went all rolling thunder on them that they were brought to the table

There's too many 'gamers' and not enough people willing to govern, they are all too willing to spout off talking points about their 'positions' but rarely do anything.

[quote]§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments. Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.[/quote] This is the text of the much cited Logan Act. According to supreme court precedent (United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp, 1936), the president is the undisputed chief diplomat of the US government. There's really no question that the 47 signatories have violated federal law here, but the real question is whether any action will be taken. The historical record shows that the Logan Act is pretty much never enforced, but I don't think there's ever been a case this egregious before.

[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;47292689]This is the text of the much cited Logan Act. According to supreme court precedent (United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp, 1936), the president is the undisputed chief diplomat of the US government. There's really no question that the 47 signatories have violated federal law here, but the real question is whether any action will be taken. The historical record shows that the Logan Act is pretty much never enforced, but I don't think there's ever been a case this egregious before.[/QUOTE] Politicians always have a loophole somewhere... no way any of them would ever be prosecuted ever.

Fuckin' hell. I really hope this Logan Act gets put into action here, I really don't want them to torpedo the one positive development towards peace in that region. Not to mention it'd be a fantastic example to finally put the GOP in their place, seems to me like they just keep crossing the line and always get away with it.

[QUOTE=Selek;47293145]Fuckin' hell. I really hope this Logan Act gets put into action here, I really don't want them to torpedo the one positive development towards peace in that region. Not to mention it'd be a fantastic example to finally put the GOP in their place, seems to me like they just keep crossing the line and always get away with it.[/QUOTE]It may also cause severe civil unrest, with people interpreting it as an attempt to destroy the Republican party. Accusing 47 senators (nearly half the entire Senate, and virtually all the Republican senators) of treason is not to be taken lightly, even with something as blatant as this.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;47294202]It may also cause severe civil unrest, with people interpreting it as an attempt to destroy the Republican party. Accusing 47 senators (nearly half the entire Senate, and virtually all the Republican senators) of treason is not to be taken lightly, even with something as blatant as this.[/QUOTE] Well, if they don't want to be accused of treason perhaps they shouldn't commit treason.

My dad, that is Republican as fuck, even thinks this is treason. And I'm sorry, but they need to taken out of office and hold elections where they were taken out of.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;47294202]It may also cause severe civil unrest, with people interpreting it as an attempt to destroy the Republican party. Accusing 47 senators (nearly half the entire Senate, and virtually all the Republican senators) of treason is not to be taken lightly, even with something as blatant as this.[/QUOTE] So what's a better solution then? Do nothing? Give them a slap on the wrist and tell them don't do that again? Hope that the average Republican doesn't re-elect them?

Isn't this sedition?

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;47291016][t]http://i.imgur.com/3y84bbO.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/S943WYd.png[/t] [url]https://www.facebook.com/SenatorRichardBurr/posts/891598884226656[/url] List of Senators that signed the letter:[/QUOTE] Oh look, both of my state senators signed it. Alabama's looking great. Sorry guys, we aren't all fucking idiots here.

Ok, this is almost exactly what Nixon did with South Vietnam and Johnson. Johnson was nearing an actual resolution. To the Vietnam war, and Nixon went through back channels to contact the South Vietnamese government and told them that if they refused the agreement and held out until after the election, that he would give them a better deal, and then the talks fell apart. Nixon sabotaged peace talks in Vietnam to win an election and I echo Johnson's sentiments, its akin to damned treason.

Everytime Obama tries to help Iran or Iraq, i got my friends' parents screaming that he is trying to help his "Muslim Brothers" or "Sand niggers" Deb Fischer you goddamn moron...

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;47290971]Wow, threatening a foreign country when the US has a ripe opportunity for bettering relations with it. Didn't expect this from the GOP[/QUOTE] Again, bordering on treason.

Oh look, there's my senator. Fuck you too, Mark Kirk.