• The Absurd World of Russian Public Opinion
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[quote]Hurray! We are attacking! Thank God! Many are dead and wounded! Thank God!" Thus exclaimed "good soldier Svejk" from the eponymous immortal novel by Jaroslav Hasek. And Russian public opinion today is no less absurd. The more casualties and destruction in southern and eastern Ukraine, the more blood is spilt there and the more coffins return for burial in Russia's boundless and snow-laden expanses, the greater grows the support for the authorities' actions in Ukraine and the higher the ratings for President Vladimir Putin. According to Levada Center data from January, [B]the number of Russians who believe that U.S.-Russia relations are hostile has increased to 42 percent[/B]. Only 2 percent believe those relations are good. [B]Fully 81 percent feel negatively or very negatively toward the United States, and 71 percent feel that way toward the European Union. [/B] Those are unprecedented numbers for Russia's entire post-Soviet period. Almost 40 percent of respondents feel that Russia should distance itself from the West, while 80 percent feel positively or very positively about China — also unprecedented levels for Russia. [B]A record 85 percent of Russians approve of President Putin, while only 15 percent disapprove[/B]. A majority of 64 percent approves of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and 58 percent approve of the government. And contrary to all common sense, the measure of general satisfaction with life stands at an unprecedented 76 percent. [B]A record 68 percent of Russians believe that the country faces a military threat[/B] — as compared to 48 percent in 2000 — [B]and 82 percent believe that the army can fend off that threat. Also, a record 55 percent of Russians are willing to send the men in their family to serve in the army.[/B] At the same time, anxiety is growing in Russian society. This is primarily due to the increasing economic problems, but also because of rising international tensions. The Russian people primarily blame the United States and the West for rising prices and the falling ruble, and they are ready to rally around the authorities.[/quote] [URL="http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/the-absurd-world-of-russian-public-opinion/516531.html"]Source[/URL] Examples of Russians being brainwashed in the link
"anyone who doesnt share my opinion is brainwashed"
[QUOTE=Melnek;47219145]"anyone who doesnt share my opinion is brainwashed"[/QUOTE] You would seriously need to be brainwashed to support Putin.
[QUOTE=Melnek;47219145]"anyone who doesnt share my opinion is brainwashed"[/QUOTE] Hey russian, thanks for not saying anything about the statistics. Did your daily 10 bows to Putin's picture today?
Russians are not brainwashed, they are like "we know Putin is ass and shit but he get us da lands so he cool"
So Russia blames all their problems on the West, in other news water is wet, the sky is blue and Putin is a shitlord, more at 11. I knew the second I saw dumbs on the OP that Karimatrix was gonna be there soon.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;47219175]Russians are not brainwashed, they are like "we know Putin is ass and shit but he get us da lands so he cool"[/QUOTE] Of course, my bad [quote]In one kindergarten in the Moscow area, a teacher painted this picture of the world for her five-year-old wards. "The Ukrainians wanted to live with Russia, but the Americans wanted the Ukrainians to live with them. The Americans bomb Ukrainian cities. But don't be afraid. The Russian army is stronger than everyone and will save us from the Americans. Our president is good. He stands for peace. He sends weapons to the separatists and we will win soon. After that, one little boy cried out, "Hurray! It's world war! We'll beat everybody!"[/quote]
[QUOTE=Melnek;47219145]"anyone who doesnt share my opinion is brainwashed"[/QUOTE] When your opinion is supportive towards occupation, rebellions and wargames, yeah I'd say so.
[quote]"Hurray! We are attacking! Thank God! Many are dead and wounded! Thank God!"[/quote] Allahu akbar It's actually quite weird how often the Russian rebels in Ukraine talk about god, both in videos I've seen and reports I've read. Most of its is probably just expression but it's interesting nonetheless.
Not exactly surprising, inflicting sanctions on the country and thus affecting the population negatively is likely to make them support their government when they're seen as the only institution defending their interests.
Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.
[QUOTE=_Axel;47219348]Not exactly surprising, inflicting sanctions on the country and thus affecting the population negatively is likely to make them support their government when they're seen as the only institution defending their interests.[/QUOTE] If only their media outlets were neutral, they'd see why those sanctions were put in place to begin with.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47219183]I knew the second I saw dumbs on the OP that Karimatrix was gonna be there soon.[/QUOTE] Too busy admiring the Kremlin from his window to post. [editline]26th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE] lol
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE] Why? General consensus in Russia is positive towards Russian international activities, what does he have to be ashamed of?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE] I'm glad my thread got him so pissed off. At least he usually would make a post. But rating the OP dumb and now this, lol
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE]That is truly amazing.
[QUOTE=Smallheart;47219400]Why? General consensus in Russia is positive towards Russian international activities, what does he have to be ashamed of?[/QUOTE] But not the general consensus of FP.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE] Amazing. He's so open to attack everything with exception to when truth about Russia comes out, it's just another proof of this absurd mentality.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;47219440]But not the general consensus of FP.[/QUOTE] I thought it wouldn't matter since Russian consensus is best consensus. :v:
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[QUOTE=DETrooper;47219169]You would seriously need to be brainwashed to support Putin.[/QUOTE] This right here is an example of brainwash. Hint: You do not need to be a brainwashed or a good person to support Putin.
"Death to America" v2 electric boogaloo
I don't know a shit about US, but aren't there general laws that all states must follow? I mean allowing homosexual marriage should be one imo.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47219383]Karimatrix asked me to close this thread.[/QUOTE] Yes, I did, no way to deny that. Except a reason was not that i am denying brainwashing in Russia, but rather that in my opinion this thread is simply not Sensationalist value? And no, i am not pissed off. I was called a Putin Lover even thought i openly critisezed my goverment multiple times. I am being surrounded by shit rumours regarding my political stance ever since i simply noticed absence of critique toward Ukranian forces actions, soo this won't add up much.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47219667]Yes, I did, no way to deny that. Except a reason was not that i am denying brainwashing in Russia, but rather that in my opinion this thread is simply not Sensationalist value? And no, i am not pissed off. I was called a Putin Lover even thought i openly critisezed my goverment multiple times. I am being surrounded by shit rumours regarding my political stance ever since i simply noticed absence of critique toward Ukranian forces actions, soo this won't add up much.[/QUOTE] I can't speak on any rumors since I haven't been following the Chronicles of Karimatrix very closely, but I think the information presented in the OP is entirely, objectively interesting to know for the rest of the world.
I actually prefer Karimatrix to post in these threads. His views IMO are actually quite a interest insight to some of Russia's many mentalities and how a citizen would go about telling people their opinion. Not defending him or his views, I just find that (without flaming) his posts do add to a discussion.
[QUOTE=Smallheart;47219695]I can't speak on any other rumors since I haven't been following the Chronicles of Karimatrix very closely, but I think the information presented in the OP is entirely, objectively interesting to know for the rest of the world.[/QUOTE] Maybe, it is, but who cares now, this thread going to be about Me ever since mod decided just to share my request here. Join the laughs. [QUOTE=EditOutJ;47219706] Not defending him or his views, I just find that (without flaming) his posts do add to a discussion.[/QUOTE] Well that is heart warming althought i was only banned for flaming once when i suggested digestion of genitalias. Aside from that. I am jsut straight forward about sharing my opinion.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47219667]Yes, I did, no way to deny that. Except a reason was not that i am denying brainwashing in Russia, but rather that in my opinion this thread is simply not Sensationalist value? And no, i am not pissed off. I was called a Putin Lover even thought i openly critisezed my goverment multiple times. I am being surrounded by shit rumours regarding my political stance ever since i simply noticed absence of critique toward Ukranian forces actions, soo this won't add up much.[/QUOTE] I dunno man, it's news, and this is a news subforum, I mean for me it ticks all the boxes.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47219716]I dunno man, it's news, and this is a news subforum, I mean for me it ticks all the boxes.[/QUOTE] Well, i am not arguing with this now anyway. I got reply that states that mods ok with this thread. It's just that i'd rather have that not annouced for comedic value. I mean, this is reason why i pulled out from SH for a while now. Every thread is "Oh oh, Karimatrix better be here!" "Explain this Karimatrix!" even though clearly most of people only saw a photoshop masterpiece of joazz and read some made up bullshit by other users rather my actual posts.
tbf you fit the description of the OP perfectly with the things you've posted and the timing of your request just fits too well. [editline]26th February 2015[/editline] even gonna mention that of all threads this is the one you chose to request to be closed
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