• 'Mein Kampf' reissued: Is Adolf Hitler's book too dangerous for the general public?
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[b]'Mein Kampf' reissued: Is Adolf Hitler's book too dangerous for the general public?[/b] Source: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mein-kampf-reissued-is-adolf-hitlers-book-too-dangerous-for-the-general-public-10069694.html]Independent.co.uk[/url] _______________ [quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/Sc216P5.jpg[/img] [i]The 1923 Nazi manifesto has been banned from Germany since World War II[/i] Old copies of the offending tome are kept in a secure “poison cabinet,” a literary danger zone in the dark recesses of the vast Bavarian State Library. A team of experts vets every request to see one, keeping the toxic text away from the prying eyes of the idly curious or those who might seek to exalt it. “This book is too dangerous for the general public,” library historian Florian Sepp warned as he carefully laid a first edition of “Mein Kampf” — Adolf Hitler’s autobiographical manifesto of hate — on a table in a restricted reading room. Nevertheless, the book that once served as a kind of Nazi bible, banned from domestic reprints since the end of World War II, will soon be returning to German bookstores from the Alps to the Baltic Sea. The prohibition on reissue for years was upheld by the state of Bavaria, which owns the German copyright and legally blocked attempts to duplicate it. But those rights expire in December, and the first new print run here since Hitler’s death is due out early next year. The new edition is a heavily annotated volume in its original German that is stirring an impassioned debate over history, anti-Semitism and the latent power of the written word. The book’s reissue, to the chagrin of critics, is effectively being financed by German taxpayers, who fund the historical society that is producing and publishing the new edition. Rather than a how-to guidebook for the aspiring fascist, the new reprint, the group said this month, will instead be a vital academic tool, a 2,000-page volume packed with more criticisms and analysis than the original text.[/quote] Read the rest of the article in the link. ... Sounds like it's for a good cause, which is deconstruct and analyze its content. However, I don't quite like it that it's treated like a weapon, that makes it more of a "forbidden fruit" which adds to the whole theme, when it should be de-valued, IMHO.
It's poorly written shite. I doubt many who aren't already hankering to get at them Mooslems and such will be swayed in any way by it.
[QUOTE][b]Is Adolf Hitler's book too dangerous for the general public?[/b][/QUOTE] No. Next question.
[QUOTE=Govna;47214978]No. Next question.[/QUOTE] Alright. What do you think Jesus' reaction to Hitler was like?
haha they're treating it like some fantasy artifact that instantly brainwashes any who look upon its pages.
i would be kind of interested to read it just to see the parallels between his rationalizations and things modern far-right groups/parties are saying now. you hear a lot of arguments from those types that frequently verge on really really unpleasant stuff and finding all those echoes sounds kind of darkly funny i mean fuck actually buying it and having people actually know that i own a copy but you know what i mean
I think at this point it qualifies as historically important, despite being written by one of the worst people in existence.
It may not be an equal analogy for some, but the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum]Mallevs Maleficarvm[/url] book is practically medieval torture porn, it was actually *used* as a witchcraft prosecution rulebook at the time... yet you don't see it treated as a forbidden book like Mein Kampf. I mean, you could rename it to "The Holy Quran, according to ISIS" and the instructions on how to torture, maim and execute people would make any ISIS terrorist fap to it.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47214983]Alright. What do you think Jesus' reaction to Hitler was like?[/QUOTE] how is this relevant to anything
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47214983]Alright. What do you think Jesus' reaction to Hitler was like?[/QUOTE] "He's got a fine 'ol solution to the Jewish Question."
[QUOTE=capital;47214990]haha they're treating it like some fantasy artifact that instantly brainwashes any who look upon its pages.[/QUOTE] no one can stop me from imagining a bunch of paladins questing to destroy the book
[QUOTE=megafat;47215003]I think at this point it qualifies as historically important, despite being written by one of the worst people in existence.[/QUOTE] My thoughts exactly. I don't like the people whining about it, if they could STFU and listen for a second, before jumping into conclusions...
This isn't the fucking Necronomicon, this is a really shitty book written by a crazed Austrian World War 1 veteran who was antisemitic, despite being of Jewish descent. We shouldn't ban this book. We should keep it available. It's not like Hitler is an unknown person, people know how terrible he was, and how bad the things he did were. We need this, to study it and analyze it, to make sure something like the Holocaust doesn't happen again.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;47215048]This isn't the fucking Necronomicon, this is a really shitty book written by a crazed Austrian World War 1 veteran who was antisemitic, despite being of Jewish descent. We shouldn't ban this book. We should keep it available. It's not like Hitler is an unknown person, people know how terrible he was, and how bad the things he did were. We need this, to study it and analyze it, to make sure something like the Holocaust doesn't happen again.[/QUOTE] Is the book [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passing_of_the_Great_Race"]"The Passing of the Great Race"[/URL] by Madison Grant banned in the US? [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passing_of_the_Great_Race#Reception_and_influence"]Hitler later wrote a letter to Grant himself[/URL], thanking him for the book, which he considered "his bible"... and plenty of the racist ideas he had, were taken from that book. How is that book treated in the US?
Reminds me of what Slavoj Zizek said in response to people criticizing Ramstein for flirting with Nazi iconography: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVU7-F5iitY[/media] basically says that we shouldnt ban things that we associate with naziism, but should employ them exactly how the nazis employed them. The nazis took things that weren't "nazi" and turned them "nazi". We should now liberate these gestures and elements from nazi ideology so that they lose their power; when the roman salute is simply a salute and no longer associated with naziism, it no longer has power over us or can cause fear. If Mein Kamf is something we can read and just go "oh okay interesting read from a lunatic", then we can reduce its impact to that of some holistic self help crap but for racists.
Got a couple of copies of it at home. I tried reading it one time, and it was not very good.
[QUOTE=capital;47214990]haha they're treating it like some fantasy artifact that instantly brainwashes any who look upon its pages.[/QUOTE] I've heard it is required reading if you want to be a facepunch mod
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47214983]Alright. What do you think Jesus' reaction to Hitler was like?[/QUOTE] we'll nothing because he died
I had to read excerpts from it for a class, and I have to say - Hitler had outward charisma, but everything he wrote (and probably everything he did) falls apart under even the most basic logical scrutiny. It's no wonder then that the Nazi ideology places [I]so much[/I] emphasis on stepping away from rational thought and listening to your heart/spirit/feelings
it's not like you can't find the whole damn book online. their approach, packaging it as a historical document with relevant essays attached, sounds like a good one
they should make it required reading in schools as a guide on how not to form a political ideology
Just looking at that cover makes the fascism spew out of me
Censorship? No.
[QUOTE=joes33431;47215193]they should make it required reading in schools as a guide on how not to form a political ideology[/QUOTE] Just watch the edgy 15-year-olds line up and say "But it makes SENSE"
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47214948][b]'Mein Kampf' reissued: Is Adolf Hitler's book too dangerous for the general public?[/b] Source: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mein-kampf-reissued-is-adolf-hitlers-book-too-dangerous-for-the-general-public-10069694.html]Independent.co.uk[/url] _______________ Read the rest of the article in the link. ... Sounds like it's for a good cause, which is deconstruct and analyze its content. However, I don't quite like it that it's treated like a weapon, that makes it more of a "forbidden fruit" which adds to the whole theme, when it should be de-valued, IMHO.[/QUOTE] Deciding for the public what is offensive to them/acceptable to consume is illegal and oppressive.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;47215211]Just watch the edgy 15-year-olds line up and say "But it makes SENSE"[/QUOTE] as punishment they are then required to do a book report on the communist manifesto
[QUOTE=TheHydra;47215126]it's not like you can't find the whole damn book online. their approach, packaging it as a historical document with relevant essays attached, sounds like a good one[/QUOTE] They may be doing it to get on the market before all the uncommented "bootleg" copies that will become legal this year.
I kind of want a copy just to have it sit on my bookshelf, prominently, and make people do a double take when they see it.
If a book is "dangerous" enough to manipulate a society to follow its teachings, then the society is the problem, not the book.
[QUOTE=joes33431;47215251]as punishment they are then required to do a book report on the communist manifesto[/QUOTE] That's way too easy, the communist manifesto is pretty short let them do a report on all 800 glorious pages of das Kapital
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