US election: 'Cruel' Trump claim annoys Muslim family - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37790832"]http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37790832[/URL] [QUOTE]Republican Donald Trump has been criticised by the family of a dead Muslim soldier after saying as president he would have kept him alive. "Had I been president, Captain Khan would be alive today. We wouldn't have been in this horrible, horrible mistake, the war in Iraq," he said. The soldier's father, Khizr Khan, said it was a "cruel" remark. He is campaigning for Hillary Clinton, who makes her first joint appearance with First Lady Michelle Obama later. Mr Khan's son Humayun was killed by a car bomb in 2004 in Iraq at the age of 27. Their grief became part of the presidential campaign in July when Khizr Khan made an emotional speech at the Democratic Convention attacking Mr Trump for anti-Muslim rhetoric, as his wife stood next to him.[/QUOTE] He's attacked them again. Why is he so dumb? I feel sorry for the Khan family, their son a hero and he is being attacked by a man not half as brave as him.

Jesus Christ, this insensitive piece of shit proves once again he does not care for anything except Donald Trump and the ego of Donald Trump. I hope he loses badly enough that it ends as a sharp lesson for him, not that it's likely to have a permanent effect on his giant ego.

How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] No, let's not kid ourselves. Trump is [B]much[/B] worse than Clinton.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] That's a pretty easy choice, unless you are worried about children drinking the bleach by accident.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;51269716]No, let's not kid ourselves. Trump is [B]much[/B] worse than Clinton.[/QUOTE] Self deceit is not how one gets ahead in life. They are both terrible. One is a suspected criminal and the other is a suspected criminal. They are both crooks. Bernie just didnt have a chance.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269751]Self deceit is not how one gets ahead in life. They are both terrible. One is a suspected criminal and the other is a suspected criminal. They are both crooks. Bernie just didnt have a chance.[/QUOTE] Please, to argue that they are equally terrible is just ignorant.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] Well no, it's more like a comparison between a gallon of bleach and a gallon of lemon juice that tastes really bad

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] This attitude is very confusing to me. Like, there's almost no debate about who's really worse if you ask a large majority of women, and a supermajority of essentially [I]any[/I] racial or ethnic minority group within the US. Trump is the most horrifying presidential candidate in modern history for everybody other than straight white males, and this narrative that he's somehow just as bad as Hillary doesn't make much sense in light of that. Hillary is unpalatable and shady, but she's also not openly campaigning under a platform of racial, ethnic, and religious persecution and fear mongering. If you are anything other than a straight white guy, Trump is very clearly the worse candidate. Even as a straight white guy, I'm not blind to that, so why are so many others?

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269751]Self deceit is not how one gets ahead in life.[/QUOTE] I agree. Thats why I decided to look through all the propaganda, and realize that despite her many problems, Hillary is still much better than trump.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51269807]This attitude is very confusing to me. Like, there's almost no debate about who's really worse if you ask a large majority of women, and a supermajority of essentially [I]any[/I] racial or ethnic minority group within the US. Trump is the most horrifying presidential candidate in modern history for everybody other than straight white males, and this narrative that he's somehow just as bad as Hillary doesn't make much sense in light of that. Hillary is unpalatable and shady, but she's also not openly campaigning under a platform of racial, ethnic, and religious persecution and fear mongering. If you are anything other than a straight white guy, Trump is very clearly the worse candidate. Even as a straight white guy, I'm not blind to that, so why are so many others?[/QUOTE] If you care about ending systematic racism, I suggest consider the culture and system it self is propped up by narratives. Kinda how the catholic church was propped up by a single narrative. As soon that narrative was debunked. the Church lost power and everything linked to it began to fall into ruin, decay and faded into nothing. Things such as churches. The difference between the catholic church and America? In America, its a multi narrative system. By adhering to either left or right, you are propping up the system thus are partaking in oppressing your fellow person. Including minorities. By trying to get me to adhere or buy into either narrative, you are trying get me to keep this broken and oppressive system going. Thus you are in my view encouraging me to be racist. Once both the left and right's narratives are erased is when the culture and the system will fall apart and fade away. That is when we can start anew and build something better.

What Like what are you even saying. What's an alternative to left and right? When they're 'erased' somehow what even replaces them? Will we be voting Green and Libertarian from then on? And what does the Catholic Church have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269881]If you care about ending systematic racism, I suggest consider the culture and system it self is propped up by narratives. Kinda how the catholic church was propped up by a single narrative. As soon that narrative was debunked. the Church lost power and everything linked to it began to fall into ruin, decay and faded into nothing. Things such as churches. The difference between the catholic church and America? In America, its a multi narrative system. By adhering to either left or right, you are propping up the system thus are partaking in oppressing your fellow person. Including minorities. By trying to get me to adhere or buy into either narrative, you are trying get me to keep this broken and oppressive system going. Thus you are in my view encouraging me to be racist. Once both the left and right's narratives are erased is when the culture and the system will fall apart and fade away. That is when we can start anew and build something better.[/QUOTE] More like women and minority groups can't risk a trump presidency so nows not the time to protest vote. This will be the first and hopefully only election I vote for a major party.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] It's more like do you want to drink a gallon of spray on tan or eat McDonald's?

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269881]If you care about ending systematic racism, I suggest consider the culture and system it self is propped up by narratives. Kinda how the catholic church was propped up by a single narrative. As soon that narrative was debunked. the Church lost power and everything linked to it began to fall into ruin, decay and faded into nothing. Things such as churches. The difference between the catholic church and America? In America, its a multi narrative system. By adhering to either left or right, you are propping up the system thus are partaking in oppressing your fellow person. Including minorities. By trying to get me to adhere or buy into either narrative, you are trying get me to keep this broken and oppressive system going. Thus you are in my view encouraging me to be racist. Once both the left and right's narratives are erased is when the culture and the system will fall apart and fade away. That is when we can start anew and build something better.[/QUOTE] Cant even begin to comprehend how wrong headed this is

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269881]If you care about ending systematic racism, I suggest consider the culture and system it self is propped up by narratives. Kinda how the catholic church was propped up by a single narrative. As soon that narrative was debunked. the Church lost power and everything linked to it began to fall into ruin, decay and faded into nothing. Things such as churches. The difference between the catholic church and America? In America, its a multi narrative system. By adhering to either left or right, you are propping up the system thus are partaking in oppressing your fellow person. Including minorities. By trying to get me to adhere or buy into either narrative, you are trying get me to keep this broken and oppressive system going. Thus you are in my view encouraging me to be racist. Once both the left and right's narratives are erased is when the culture and the system will fall apart and fade away. That is when we can start anew and build something better.[/QUOTE] So what I gather from this is essentially "You should fix things" ? Like I don't see the point you're trying to make

at least our right-wing sociopath ruler was unelected, wheras you guys are gonna have a guilty conscience either way it's not ideal

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269751]Self deceit is not how one gets ahead in life. They are both terrible. One is a suspected criminal and the other is a suspected criminal. They are both crooks. Bernie just didnt have a chance.[/QUOTE] Bernie didn't have a chance cause he didn't live in the real world.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269654]How I feel about the election? Not sure which is worse? A gallon of bleach or a gallon of lemon flavored bleach?[/QUOTE] If Trump is a gallon of bleach then Clinton is diet lemonade; seems fake, it doesn't taste that great and isn't quite what you wanted but it's a hell of a lot better than fucking bleach.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51269881]Kinda how the catholic church was propped up by a single narrative. As soon that narrative was debunked. the Church lost power and everything linked to it began to fall into ruin, decay and faded into nothing. Things such as churches.[/quote] Yeah, I think that you'll have a hard time arguing that the Catholic church has fallen into ruin. [quote]In America, its a multi narrative system. By adhering to either left or right, you are propping up the system thus are partaking in oppressing your fellow person. Including minorities. By trying to get me to adhere or buy into either narrative, you are trying get me to keep this broken and oppressive system going. Thus you are in my view encouraging me to be racist.[/quote] There's a difference between BDA disagreeing with your false equivalence between Clinton and Trump and him peddling a leftist narrative. There are plenty of right-wingers who hate both but prefer to vote for Clinton over Trump. Also, racism is not exclusively attached to a single political structure. Institutionalized racism has been a thing before Pythagoras realized that triangles are cool. [quote]Once both the left and right's narratives are erased is when the culture and the system will fall apart and fade away. That is when we can start anew and build something better.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't rush into the promise of a third way™. As a general aside, guys, can we stop using the word "narrative" so much? It's the new "problematic" "toxic" or "celebrate x".

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51269807]This attitude is very confusing to me. Like, there's almost no debate about who's really worse if you ask a large majority of women, and a supermajority of essentially [I]any[/I] racial or ethnic minority group within the US. Trump is the most horrifying presidential candidate in modern history for everybody other than straight white males, and this narrative that he's somehow just as bad as Hillary doesn't make much sense in light of that. Hillary is unpalatable and shady, but she's also not openly campaigning under a platform of racial, ethnic, and religious persecution and fear mongering. If you are anything other than a straight white guy, Trump is very clearly the worse candidate. Even as a straight white guy, I'm not blind to that, so why are so many others?[/QUOTE] Even as a straight white guy, based purely on what Trump wants to achieve and irrespective of what he could actually achieve as president, it's a small niche of people who would genuinely benefit from a Trump presidency. People in the military, people who prioritize guns above literally everything else, large businesses and corporations, the wealthy in general, and lobbyists that can gain from Trump's call for deregulation in numerous sectors. How many of those people post on FP? I'm going to guess very few.

Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;51269716]No, let's not kid ourselves. Trump is [B]much[/B] worse than Clinton.[/QUOTE] I hate what our government has become so much that I kind of want Trump to win just to watch it burn a little brighter

[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;51270358]Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.[/QUOTE] because at the time he was for the war? Maybe because of your ignorance, you're so ready to call us all out as idiots but you don't even know that he was [B]for[/B] the iraq war at the same time Clinton was. So he's a massive fucking liar and you're saying he's a better choice? No thanks. [editline]27th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;51270362]I hate what our government has become so much that I kind of want Trump to win just to watch it burn a little brighter[/QUOTE] yeah that's the dumbest thing

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51270368]because at the time he was for the war? Maybe because of your ignorance, you're so ready to call us all out as idiots but you don't even know that he was [B]for[/B] the iraq war at the same time Clinton was. So he's a massive fucking liar and you're saying he's a better choice? No thanks. [editline]27th October 2016[/editline] yeah that's the dumbest thing[/QUOTE] I don't care if it's dumb. I stopped giving a toss about the government years ago. It's obvious the people aren't in charge and don't get anything from them other than more grief in one area or another. The only way I know how to say Fuck You is to let them deal with 4 years of Trump. Him in office will change nothing for us as it doesn't REALLY matter who the president is, but it'll annoy Congress, and that makes me a little happier

[QUOTE=TheTalon;51270384]I don't care if it's dumb. I stopped giving a toss about the government years ago. It's obvious the people aren't in charge and don't get anything from them other than more grief in one area or another. The only way I know how to say Fuck You is to let them deal with 4 years of Trump. Him in office will change nothing for us as it doesn't REALLY matter who the president is, but it'll annoy Congress, and that makes me a little happier[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the "Throwing your toys out of the pram" school of voting.

[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;51270358]Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.[/QUOTE] Trump on Howard Stern, in 2002: [quote] STERN: Are you for invading Iraq? TRUMP: Yeah, I guess so. You know, I wish the first time it was done correctly. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;51270358]Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.[/QUOTE] Okay first, Clinton sucks but Trump is on entirely different level of [i]diabolically fucking terrible. [/i] I can understand the dislike for Clinton but there is literally no way to see trump as a favourable alternative other than outright ignorance. Second of all it's offensive because he's using the death of a guy that he has *already shit on previously* to push his agenda. He gave a dead solider shit, and when called out by the guy's family, his response is: "I'm so great if I was president he wouldn't actually be dead!". On what planet is that not insensitive?. Goes to show how much sway a cult of personality has over feeble minds.

[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;51270358]Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.[/QUOTE] You're such a genius voting for an awful candidate. Have fun losing come November.

[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;51270358]Lol SH has turned in to a Clinton cock sucking competition. Pretty sad that you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you would vote for a woman who is so corrupt she has literally gotten away with treason. Trump is saying if he were president he wouldnt have made the massive mistake to go barreling into Iraq, saving countless lives. How is that offensive or even insensitive in the slightest? Goes to show how much sway the MSM has over feeble minds.[/QUOTE] Please explain to me what grieving fucking parents want to hear the potential next president refer directly to their deceased son and say "this wouldn't have happened if I was there". That doesn't make them feel better, that makes them feel worse Checkmate dude, everyone here that supports Clinton explains why they do and pretty damn well if I say so myself. Are you going to post a rebuttal with an equally educated opinion or are you going to continue calling everyone names with nothing to backup your shitty opinion?