• Occupy Wall Street forces to reunite for Sanders before NY primary
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[QUOTE] The forces of Occupy Wall Street, splintered and faded in the aftermath of their 2011 demonstrations, are getting the band back together to boost Bernie Sanders ahead of next week's critical New York primary. Nearly five years since Occupy was evicted from Zuccotti Park, blocks from the New York Stock Exchange in lower Manhattan, a coalition of organizers, labor leaders and progressive activists who lined up under the banner of "the 99 percent" are renewing their efforts in pursuit of a more traditional cause: Getting voters to the polls on April 19. That begins with traditional canvassing, but will extend to what is expected to be a large pro-Sanders, Occupy-inspired march on Saturday in Manhattan. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The independent journalists and activists who helped write the free "Occupied Wall Street Journal" in fall 2011 are now poised to produce 500,000 bilingual broadsheet newspapers, as part of their crowdsourced "Battle of New York" project. The special edition, which they hope to begin printing on Wednesday, will feature essays, art and -- in a clear pivot to the mainstream -- a direct call to vote for Sanders next week. The blitz will continue on Saturday, when a coalition led by the Millennials for Bernie group launches a "March for Bernie." Their preliminary route is slated to take supporters north from Foley Square in Manhattan's financial district to Union Square, a path familiar to those who joined the demonstrations five years ago. Organizers expect as many as 15,000 people to attend. ... Sanders is also expected to receive significant rank-and-file labor support in the days leading up to the New York vote. Clinton remains the clear leader in overall endorsements, but Sanders will be counting on battle-hardened unions like the Communications Workers of America to help drive turnout.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/13/politics/occupy-wall-street-bernie-sanders-new-york-primary/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/13/politics/occupy-wall-street-bernie-sanders-new-york-primary/index.html[/URL]
I hope it pays off it would be delicious to watch Clinton take a blow in something that is basically her home state
Seems like this will hurt Sanders. OWS is pretty unpopular with the large majority of the US population.
[QUOTE]That begins with traditional canvassing, but will extend to what is expected to be a large pro-Sanders, Occupy-inspired march on Saturday in Manhattan.[/QUOTE] This will make a world of difference.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50125684]Seems like this will hurt Sanders. OWS is pretty unpopular with the large majority of the US population.[/QUOTE] Its only unpopular with much older folks, a lot of middle aged and younger voters agree with OWS but it died out because of its very open nature. It was one of the first leaderless political movements.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50125684]Seems like this will hurt Sanders. OWS is pretty unpopular with the large majority of the US population.[/QUOTE] [Citation Needed]
[QUOTE=Swilly;50125739]Its only unpopular with much older folks, a lot of middle aged and younger voters agree with OWS but it died out because of its very open nature. It was one of the first leaderless political movements.[/QUOTE]You could argue the scope of it is what really helped inspire later movements of a similar nature. There had been leaderless movements before, but they were small scale and largely unnoticed. OWS made the method a national story. Now later movements are slowly figuring out how to make it work better and work out the problems.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50125834]You could argue the scope of it is what really helped inspire later movements of a similar nature. There had been leaderless movements before, but they were small scale and largely unnoticed. OWS made the method a national story. Now later movements are slowly figuring out how to make it work better and work out the problems.[/QUOTE][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_(book)[/url] a good read
[QUOTE=sgman91;50125684]Seems like this will hurt Sanders. OWS is pretty unpopular with the large majority of the US population.[/QUOTE] Very much doubt it. OWS started the entire 99%/1% rhetoric that's been the backbone of Sanders' campaign. It's a natural progression for Sanders to follow in OWS' footsteps. OWS v2, with a figurehead leader this time around. Let's do it.
[QUOTE=Swilly;50125739]Its only unpopular with much older folks, a lot of middle aged and younger voters agree with OWS but it died out because of its very open nature. It was one of the first leaderless political movements.[/QUOTE] so you're saying this one is much better organised it will have some impact ?
[QUOTE=sgman91;50125684]Seems like this will hurt Sanders. OWS is pretty unpopular with the large majority of the US population.[/QUOTE] OWS is unpopular with Facepunchers.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50126341]Very much doubt it. OWS started the entire 99%/1% rhetoric that's been the backbone of Sanders' campaign. It's a natural progression for Sanders to follow in OWS' footsteps. OWS v2, with a figurehead leader this time around. Let's do it.[/QUOTE] When did OWS start? [video=youtube;8gqNkVcEUtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqNkVcEUtI[/video] Bernies been talking bout the 1 percent for a while
[QUOTE]Its only unpopular with much older folks, a lot of middle aged and younger voters agree with OWS but it died out because of its very open nature. It was one of the first leaderless political movements.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][Citation Needed][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Very much doubt it. OWS started the entire 99%/1% rhetoric that's been the backbone of Sanders' campaign. It's a natural progression for Sanders to follow in OWS' footsteps. OWS v2, with a figurehead leader this time around. Let's do it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]OWS is unpopular with Facepunchers.[/QUOTE] It maxes out around 40% popularity nationwide and generally sits far below that. Even support in New York City has declined below 50%. ([URL]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/14/occupy-wall-street-people-power-popularity[/URL]) Even at it's best a lot more disliked it than liked. Oddly enough, people described as "solid liberals" disliked it more than almost anyone else. ([URL]http://www.pewresearch.org/2011/10/19/public-and-occupy-wall-street-movement-agree-on-key-issues/[/URL])
[QUOTE=sgman91;50126687]It maxes out around 40% popularity nationwide and generally sits far below that. Even support in New York City has declined below 50%. ([URL]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/14/occupy-wall-street-people-power-popularity[/URL]) Even at it's best a lot more disliked it than liked. Oddly enough, people described as "solid liberals" disliked it more than almost anyone else. ([URL]http://www.pewresearch.org/2011/10/19/public-and-occupy-wall-street-movement-agree-on-key-issues/[/URL])[/QUOTE] OWS dishing out half a million multilingual ads in the most ethnically diverse areas of New York City isn't going to hurt Bernie. Bernie isn't even projected to win and he needs this state to keep going. Almost any support at this point is good support.
A lot of people believe OWS was hijacked by marxists using it as a vehicle to promote their cause. It's not uncommon for people to bring up OWS in discussions on the origins of the regressive left.
[QUOTE=cody8295;50126380]When did OWS start? [video=youtube;8gqNkVcEUtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqNkVcEUtI[/video] Bernies been talking bout the 1 percent for a while[/QUOTE] Shouldn't have said "started," but they absolutely brought that rhetoric into the public sphere. Nobody was using that lingo until after OWS, and Bernie's the culmination of that long-lasting frustration. [editline]13th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Aredbomb;50126812]A lot of people believe OWS was hijacked by marxists using it as a vehicle to promote their cause. It's not uncommon for people to bring up OWS in discussions on the origins of the regressive left.[/QUOTE] Most media criticisms of OWS called it anarchistic, not marxist.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;50126812]A lot of people believe OWS was hijacked by marxists using it as a vehicle to promote their cause. It's not uncommon for people to bring up OWS in discussions on the origins of the regressive left.[/QUOTE] May I ask what elements of "marxism" were placed into OWS? I don't think that the "progressive stack" was marxist.
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[QUOTE=Octavius;50127243]It is worth considering that this is what public opinion was, not what it is. Public opinion shifts over time, so we really can't state with any certainty that this is true. It wouldn't surprise me if it isn't too supported, but a good deal of popularity also wouldn't surprise me. I would wager that Occupy, as a memory and idea, has a good deal of support on the Democratic side. Also your second source doesn't say what you think it does at all.[/QUOTE] You're completely right about the second source. I totally misread that poll on the bottom. I looked into it a little more and it really has nothing to do with support for the movement.
The first suggestion in google when you type "occupy wallstreet" is "occupy wallstreet failure"
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50127348]The first suggestion in google when you type "occupy wallstreet" is "occupy wallstreet failure"[/QUOTE] Case Closed. Pack it in losers.
[QUOTE=cody8295;50126380]When did OWS start? [video=youtube;8gqNkVcEUtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqNkVcEUtI[/video] Bernies been talking bout the 1 percent for a while[/QUOTE] God damn sanders needs to hire a hairstylist or something for his campaign. He's looked like a nutjob for the last 40 years
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50127361]God damn sanders needs to hire a hairstylist or something for his campaign. He's looked like a nutjob for the last 40 years[/QUOTE] Too late now - for better or worse his crazy hair is iconic :v:
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50127348]The first suggestion in google when you type "occupy wallstreet" is "occupy wallstreet failure"[/QUOTE] Also just so you know, google's algorithm is based on your search habits. [img]https://i.gyazo.com/c16ff4dd853b43a9bd2fe3b9e6a526a4.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Aztec;50127425]Also just so you know, google's algorithm is based on your search habits. [img]https://i.gyazo.com/c16ff4dd853b43a9bd2fe3b9e6a526a4.png[/img][/QUOTE] Oh really? [img]http://i.imgur.com/DWfpGBp.png[/img] Wow I guess so
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50127458]Oh really? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DWfpGBp.png[/IMG] Wow I guess so[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand. Everyone's google searches are slightly modified to their own search habits. Your SUGGESTED searches are going to be different from mine. I'm not saying they are all YOUR searches. Unless you are saying you actually understand. Then excuse me for assuming sarcasm.
[QUOTE=Aztec;50127473]I don't think you understand. Everyone's google searches are slightly modified to their own search habits. Your SUGGESTED searches are going to be different from mine. I'm not saying they are all YOUR searches. Unless you are saying you actually understand. Then excuse me for assuming sarcasm.[/QUOTE] No I totally understand. I think google wants me to know something about teddy
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;50126812]A lot of people believe OWS was hijacked by marxists using it as a vehicle to promote their cause. It's not uncommon for people to bring up OWS in discussions on the origins of the regressive left.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Phycosymo;50126977]May I ask what elements of "marxism" were placed into OWS? I don't think that the "progressive stack" was marxist.[/QUOTE] this, i don't see the conflation of marxism and OWS, besides general populist anti-elite common sense ideology i'm sure there were a few comrades in the crowds, but i feel you're attempting to lump actual marxism in with exaggerated Cultural Marxist™ neocon strawmen
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50127348]The first suggestion in google when you type "occupy wallstreet" is "occupy wallstreet failure"[/QUOTE] to be fair it's the 2nd thing that pops up or at least for me
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50126375]OWS is unpopular with Facepunchers.[/QUOTE] Protesting in general is unpopular with facepunchers.
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