New RCs to look out for in the UK (and the rest of the world, where applicable)
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I thought I'd make a thread on the newest RCs that have come out. I've tried quite a few and will just give you guys an idea of what I liked, what I didn't like, and what I found scary about them all. They're not ALL new, aMT has been around for ages but it's hidden behind a veil of obscurity on the British scene. This is most likely due to some deaths a few years ago.
[b]Name: [/b]2-methyl-2-butanol
[b]Dosage: [/b]2ml-10ml (10ml is not recommended)
[b]Overall rating of experience: [/b]6 - good
[b]Perceived danger: [/b]3 - reasonably safe
[b]Addictiveness: [/b]8 - I can see this being highly addictive
2m2b was my favourite RC of the last few months. It is essentially just a longer-acting alcohol, with no GI tract side effects and no hangover. It may sound too good to be true but it really isn't. It's not euphoric for me as some people purport but it's certainly an amazing depressant drug. It's also cheap and my vendor are brilliant at packaging.
I can see addiction issues with this in the same way as GBL and GBH as it's really quite similar. I used it quite a lot in a week and did not feel any issues but depressant drugs are incredibly dangerous to withdraw from and really unpleasant too so be careful chaps.
[b]Name: [/b]aMT
[b]Dosage: [/b]5-50mg
[b]Overall rating of experience: [/b]7 - pretty damn good
[b]Perceived danger: [/b]5 - a few deaths and hospitalizations in idiots
[b]Addictiveness: [/b]1 - can't see any addictive qualities but may be psychologically addictive
aMT has obviously been around for a long time but it's still classified as an RC due to its lack of research. It faded into obscurity some years back as deaths caused vendors to stop stocking it (I suppose they at least have SOME morality). aMT lasts a long time. A REALLY LONG TIME. Prepare an entire day for this because you'll need it. It lasted about 20 hours for me orally.
I only tried aMT three times. I still have my 500mg sample and have barely touched it. I did enjoy it but psychedelics like this are not really something I want to be dosing a lot. It's also difficult to know how you're going to feel from it because the experiences were vastly different each time.
I can definitely recommend this but a scale is a MUST. 100mg is going to fuck you up and it's hard to know the difference between 100mg and 50mg with powder like this.
[b]Name: [/b]Methoxetamine
[b]Dosage: [/b]10-40mg
[b]Overall rating of experience: [/b]9 - awesome
[b]Perceived danger: [/b]6 - definitely can see it being dangerous, psychologically at least
[b]Addictiveness: [/b]7 - mu-opiate agonism and NMDA antagonism make this drug a definite risk in this area
Methoxetamine was brilliant and I posted my experiences of it here. I still have about 250mg of my 500mg sample left. It's the best dissociative I've ever tried and it's my number one out of the list. The main issue with this drug is acting sober is IMPOSSIBLE so you absolutely must be in a safe environment where you won't be bothered when using it. I could barely speak when I was on it and walking was fucking hilarious. I had to hold onto things to get around.
This drug is an excellent painkiller. Far better than a high dose of DHC. I was entirely numb. I can see dangers with biting your lip with this one. I was worried about the possible urination issues people experienced with Ketamine abuse but so far I have not noticed any difficulty urinating post-experience on this. That's not to say it doesn't carry the same risk, but this drug is pretty safe if used correctly.
[b]Name: [/b]Methipropamine
[b]Dosage: [/b]25-80mg
[b]Overall rating of experience: [/b]2 - pretty bad when the high is over
[b]Perceived danger: [/b]9 - trust me, this stuff is FUCKED up
[b]Addictiveness: [/b]10 - takes the cake out of the 4 I'm reviewing
This is the last one I wanted to talk about. This drug is ridiculously compulsive, dangerous and although the high is good, it lasts only about 15 minutes vaporized and then devolves into a stimulant comedown for 12 hours. Huge vasoconstriction (worse than Mephedrone) and definite heart pain after using it. I'm not going to say don't take this, because I tried a fair amount of it and I don't feel any damage as such, but be responsible with its use because it's an analogue of methamphetamine and this appears to be more addictive due to more action on the limbic system in the brain (a poster on bluelight's words, not mine).
I quite like methipropamine but it's not what the RC scene should be about. It's killing the scene at the moment. Another RC that kills people will shut down RCs completely.
Thanks for reading if you got this far. I plan to expand on this but I start work in 30 minutes and have to get ready. Post any questions you like.
Thanks for that, was quite a good read
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;27708130]
[b]Name: [/b]Methoxetamine
[b]Dosage: [/b]10-40mg
[b]Overall rating of experience: [/b]9 - awesome
[b]Perceived danger: [/b]6 - definitely can see it being dangerous, psychologically at least
[b]Addictiveness: [/b]7 - mu-opiate agonism and NMDA antagonism make this drug a definite risk in this area
Methoxetamine was brilliant and I posted my experiences of it here. I still have about 250mg of my 500mg sample left. It's the best dissociative I've ever tried and it's my number one out of the list. The main issue with this drug is acting sober is IMPOSSIBLE so you absolutely must be in a safe environment where you won't be bothered when using it. I could barely speak when I was on it and walking was fucking hilarious. I had to hold onto things to get around.
This drug is an excellent painkiller. Far better than a high dose of DHC. I was entirely numb. I can see dangers with biting your lip with this one. I was worried about the possible urination issues people experienced with Ketamine abuse but so far I have not noticed any difficulty urinating post-experience on this. That's not to say it doesn't carry the same risk, but this drug is pretty safe if used correctly.[/QUOTE]
If I could get this today, would you reccomend it? How long does it last? What exactly does the drug do?
[QUOTE=Superginger;27709771]If I could get this today, would you reccomend it? How long does it last? What exactly does the drug do?[/QUOTE]
It's a diss so I would imagine it's similar to ketamine or DXM, ala makes you feel drunk-ish, maybe hallucenations and severe disorientation.
[QUOTE=Superginger;27709771]If I could get this today, would you reccomend it? How long does it last? What exactly does the drug do?[/QUOTE]
I would definitely recommend it. It lasts about 3 hours but the aftereffects linger for a few more hours at least. The drug is dissociative and in a class of its own. I didn't enjoy DXM but love this as the side effects are so much less apparent. It's the best "trip" I've ever had, and I've had a lot of them.
I wish i didn't have issues otherwise i'd be all over research chems
Thanks Dan, it looks like I got me a new shopping list :biggrin:
What are the effects of aMT?
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;27717575]I would definitely recommend it. It lasts about 3 hours but the aftereffects linger for a few more hours at least. The drug is dissociative and in a class of its own. I didn't enjoy DXM but love this as the side effects are so much less apparent. It's the best "trip" I've ever had, and I've had a lot of them.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, I'll ask around.
[QUOTE=its shortie;27720026]What are the effects of aMT?[/QUOTE]
It takes about two hours to come up properly, during that time you'll feel some euphoria. The trippy part of it comes in waves, the strongest of which are comparable to a mushroom trip. You should also bear in mind that it's a powerful stimulant and if you take it in the evening you'll struggle to sleep for about 12 hours after. During the come up it's you'll probably feel nauseous (a bit like the come up on nasty pills) although it's unlikely you'll actually chuck. The main effects last for 8-12 hours although the after effects can last for a lot longer
FINLEY has got it. I found the comeup started for me after an hour but I appear to have a hyperactive metabolism and I find all drugs hit me quickly. I've heard reports that vaporising aMT avoids nausea and makes the experience last a more manageable amount of time.
I experienced no nausea but my mate was incredibly nauseous for the first 5 hours and it appears most people are. I guess I just have an iron stomach.
Anubis you'd LOVE methoxetamine. If you like dissociative drugs you'd love this. It's miles above DXM at any rate.
Oh yeah man, I'm definitely psyched to find some methoxetamine. That and aMT (which sounds wonderful!)
Do you have any good stims you can recommend?
Mephedrone is probably one of the best stims I've ever used. It's certainly much more euphoric than standard amphet and there's less of a comedown. If you can't find that then just standard dexedrine is a good one.
If you're looking for legals then there really aren't many at all at the moment. The RC community seems to have shifted towards psychedelics lately. Methipropamine is a stimulant but it's really not a very good one.
Will keep you posted if I find out about any others. There's a new mescaline analogue hitting the UK market soon I believe.
I've ordered 500mg of methoxetamine. I am a huge fan of ketamine so can't wait to see how this is. Will also most likely be comboing it with LSD, MDMA and AM-2201 in the next week if all goes to plan.
[QUOTE=Superginger;27709771]If I could get this today, would you reccomend it? How long does it last? What exactly does the drug do?[/QUOTE]
i had about 0.2gs of this shit and i was feeling it for about 4 hours, sobered up for an hour then smoked some weed and i started tripping for another 4 hours. Weed is definitely recommended, even when you feel sober before you smoke you sure as hell won't feel sober after, almost makes you rush like mephedrone which is weird. Take it easy though because when it hits you this shit hits you haardd haha
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it's basically incredibly potent ketamine but without the feeling of kholing.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;27736697]Mephedrone is probably one of the best stims I've ever used. It's certainly much more euphoric than standard amphet and there's less of a comedown. If you can't find that then just standard dexedrine is a good one.
If you're looking for legals then there really aren't many at all at the moment. The RC community seems to have shifted towards psychedelics lately. Methipropamine is a stimulant but it's really not a very good one.
Will keep you posted if I find out about any others. There's a new mescaline analogue hitting the UK market soon I believe.[/QUOTE]
Mescaline analog would be the bomb. I guess it will be Jimscaline or nbome-mescaline.
[QUOTE=Gareth;28069780]i had about 0.2gs of this shit and i was feeling it for about 4 hours, sobered up for an hour then smoked some weed and i started tripping for another 4 hours. Weed is definitely recommended, even when you feel sober before you smoke you sure as hell won't feel sober after, almost makes you rush like mephedrone which is weird. Take it easy though because when it hits you this shit hits you haardd haha
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it's basically incredibly potent ketamine but without the feeling of kholing.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, I've used k a hell of a lot and it feels more similar to opiates than k to me. There's none of the visual hallucinations you'd associate with k and it makes you sluggish and passive. That is unless either A. my stuff isn't methoxetamine (unlikely) or B. cross tolerance is supressing some of the effects I should be getting.
Nice dan, got 1000mg 5-APB winging it's way to me. Extremely expensive and i feel like i've just been shafted royally but i gave my free 100mg sample away for some reason so quite keen to try it.
Also got 500mg methoxtamine on the way too. Should be an interesting weekend.
This man puts himself on the line to tell us what we can fuck ourselves up with.
He is truly a saint.
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