American Family Association: HIV Doesn’t Cause AIDS, Drugs and Sex Do
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[release]Bryan Fischer, the head of the American Family Association, is not only virulently antigay, he’s joined the ranks of HIV deniers.
Fischer, in a column published on the AFA website Thursday, [b]states his belief that HIV does not cause AIDS. Instead, he believes the condition we know as AIDS is caused by overuse of recreational drugs, particularly those associated with casual sex[/b], which is one of the theories put forth by controversial scientist Peter Duesberg, who appeared on Fischer’s radio show this week.
“Duesberg’s answer can be found in one word: drugs,” Fischer writes. [b]“And specifically, drug use connected with the kind of sex that is far too common in the homosexual community. While the average heterosexual has somewhere between seven to 14 sexual partners in a lifetime, it is not uncommon for homosexuals to have hundreds, even thousands, of sexual partners.”[/b]
Duesberg, despite having theories that are out of the mainstream, [b]has frequently said he is not antigay.[/b] Fischer, however, makes many antigay statements when [b]he asserts that HIV is harmless and that its association with AIDS is merely a ploy to get funding for virological research and treatment[/b]. After saying Duesberg admits his drug hypothesis needs more research to back it up, Fischer writes:
“Why can’t he get funding for such research? Easy. If AIDS is behaviorally induced, then the solution is simple: stop the behavior. If using amyl nitrites is the cause, then stop using amyl nitrites. If men having sex with men is the cause ... then tell men to stop having sex with other men. If shooting up with needles is the cause, then stop shooting up.”
Fischer continues, [b]“HIV does not cause AIDS. So let’s immediately stop spending billions of dollars trying to kill a harmless microbe. And secondly, let’s tell homosexuals to stop sleeping with other men, stop using poppers, and stop shooting up.”[/b]
Fischer also claims [b]that if HIV causes AIDS, former basketball star Magic Johnson, who just marked the 20th anniversary of his HIV diagnosis, should be expected “to be a withered, shriveled version of his former self.”[/b] However, as The American Independent points out, Johnson’s good health is most likely the result of antiretroviral drugs — which would undermine another of Duesberg’s claims, that these prescription drugs “are toxic and kill more people than HIV itself does.” (On his radio show Fischer mistakenly said Johnson had an AIDS diagnosis, not HIV, but corrected himself in the column.)
Fischer’s homophobic organization has ties to some high-profile politicians. Last year it participated in a prayer rally with Texas governor Rick Perry, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination. Its founder, Donald Wildmon, who is retired from the group, has endorsed Newt Gingrich in that race (Fischer, on the other hand, has been critical of Gingrich).[/release]
[url]http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/01/06/Antigay_Leader_HIV_Doesnt_Cause_AIDS_Drugs_and_Sex_Do/[/url]
these people are a designated Hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center
let's stop listening
Umm, why should I care what some backwards moron out in Tupelo, Mississippi has to say?
And how many threads are you going to post today? :v:
my friend smoked 2 marijuanas and next thing he knew he was gay and had aids
Didn't the GOP presidential Candidates all sign a contract or a pledge written by these folks? or was that another organization?
[editline]9th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Valdor;34122185]my friend smoked 2 marijuanas and next thing he knew he was gay and had aids[/QUOTE]
that shits not funny man, my brother overdosed on marijuanas
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;34122182]Umm, why should I care what some backwards moron out in Tupelo, Mississippi has to say?
And how many threads are you going to post today? :v:[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to set a record. EVERYTHING THEY SAY NEEDS TO BE COVERED!
[editline]9th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Valdor;34122185]my friend smoked 2 marijuanas and next thing he knew he was gay and had aids[/QUOTE]
rumor
I got aids from a pot needle everyone listen to this man!!1
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;34122182]Umm, why should I care what some backwards moron out in Tupelo, Mississippi has to say?[/QUOTE]
AFA has more influence than you think.
Like remember that time they made it rain to do that ad.
[editline]9th January 2012[/editline]
Wait...that was NOM...
[editline]9th January 2012[/editline]
THEY SAY THE SAME THINGS! ITS SO HARD TO KEEP TRACK
[QUOTE]Fischer continues, “HIV does not cause AIDS. So let’s immediately stop spending billions of dollars trying to kill a harmless microbe. And secondly, let’s tell homosexuals to stop sleeping with other men, stop using poppers, and stop shooting up.”[/QUOTE]
I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or not.
He's not.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34122191]that shits not funny man, my brother overdosed on marijuanas[/QUOTE]
How many tons of marijuana do you have to smoke to get an overdose anyway
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;34122182]Umm, why should I care what some backwards moron out in Tupelo, Mississippi has to say?
And how many threads are you going to post today? :v:[/QUOTE]
Well ya know man, Republicans are just a bunch of Bible thumping bigots who want to rule the world with their archaic religions. They also want to cleanse the earth of gays.
You should know that, spess mahren!
[QUOTE=Valdor;34122185]my friend smoked 2 marijuanas and next thing he knew he was gay and had aids[/QUOTE]
god I can't stop laughing at this shit.
that and this article
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[quote]HIV does not cause AIDS. So let’s immediately stop spending billions of dollars trying to kill a harmless microbe[/quote]
Viruses aren't microbes.
I thought drugs could prevent HIV from creating AIDS
I was wrong all along!!!
"I'm not giving you advil Tyler, you'll get AIDS and go gay! NOT IN THIS HOUSE!"
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34123029]How many tons of marijuana do you have to smoke to get an overdose anyway[/QUOTE]
It's like 30,000 joints in under 5 minutes. Or was it 3,000.
Either way you'd suffocate before the amount of THC would get you. Not to mention the AIDS.
Oh you
Oh wow.
Well you're wrong afa
holy shit that's one crazy party.
and also:
[quote]So let’s immediately stop spending billions of dollars trying to kill a harmless microbe.[/quote]
heh, someone's overstating their importance in the world.
the stupidity is almost palpable here
wow heterosexual women in Africa must be huge drug users!
Don't call sex a bad thing just because some dumbass's fuck everything that moves.
Let's get Fischer to put his money where his mouth is. If he'll allow himself to be voluntarily injected with this 'harmless microbe' people might still listen to him, eh?
[QUOTE=Andokool12;34123387]"I'm not giving you advil Tyler, you'll get AIDS and go gay! NOT IN THIS HOUSE!"
It's like 30,000 joints in under 5 minutes. Or was it 3,000.
Either way you'd suffocate before the amount of THC would get you. Not to mention the AIDS.[/QUOTE]
unless you use weed needles!
though seriously it is possible to overdose, just not smoking or vaporizing cannabis
[quote] the synthetic THC pill Marinol was cited by the FDA as being responsible for 4 of the 11,687 deaths from 17 different FDA approved drugs between January 1, 1997 to June 30, 2005.[/quote]
that's would be a lot of pills though
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lylLI.png[/img]
how are people this stupid?
no seriously, how?
[QUOTE=Nikota;34122105]it is not uncommon for homosexuals to have hundreds, even thousands, of sexual partners.”
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I...Oh fuck arguments
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