on the one hand all the shitty minecraft servers will go away
on the other hand there are no other minecraft servers
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;45018004]on the one hand all the shitty minecraft servers will go away
on the other hand there are no other minecraft servers[/QUOTE]
A server can pretty much be a newly created server or a server without donator perks and can still suck.
[QUOTE=coolgame8013;45018317]A server can pretty much be a newly created server or a server without donator perks and can still suck.[/QUOTE]
true but donator perks are a surefire way to make you suck with 100% efficiency
This has been clogging r/minecraft for the past few days. The problem is that some people are making money off of stuff like restricting diamond swords unless you pay. That is bad and has always been against the EULA. Donations toward servers for keeping the server online are not restricted, neither are donor benefits for donating unless you're using that to cut off content from other people like the aforementioned "can't use diamond items" thing. Another example was selling diamond blocks to players.
This all started from Marc telling a few server hosts to stop using certain graphics on their homepage, which they complied to without issue. A couple of other overreacting shitheads jumped on Mark thinking he was trying to close down server hosts because Realms is a thing and he was trying to help Realms become a monopoly for Minecraft servers, which he fucking wasn't.
[editline]6th June 2014[/editline]
Here is the original Twitter thread that started all this crap: [url]https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/471762881243918337[/url]
Here is Marc's comment about what happened on reddit: [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/2720xt/psa_to_server_owners_selling_a_diamond_sword_on_a/chwxujd?context=3[/url]
[QUOTE=Banned?;45018595]This has been clogging r/minecraft for the past few days. The problem is that some people are making money off of stuff like restricting diamond swords unless you pay. That is bad and has always been against the EULA. Donations toward servers for keeping the server online are not restricted, neither are donor benefits for donating unless you're using that to cut off content from other people like the aforementioned "can't use diamond items" thing. Another example was selling diamond blocks to players.[/QUOTE]
So is it purely aimed at premium restrictions on base game mechanics, or are you also prohibited from selling benefits of mod mechanics, like more claimable land in Factions servers for example? And what about 'buying' a stack of diamonds? It doesn't mess with the original mechanics, just speeds things up.
Mojang looks to be opening a can of worms.
[editline]7th June 2014[/editline]
After reading Marc's reddit comment, it seems people are just overblowing things. Just don't fuck with the base game, which is what every other multiplayer game says too (Valve wouldn't allow a TF2 server where you'd have to 'buy' the double jump ability for the scout for example).
[QUOTE=Clavus;45020508](Valve wouldn't allow a TF2 server where you'd have to 'buy' the double jump ability for the scout for example).[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
[QUOTE=Clavus;45020508]So is it purely aimed at premium restrictions on base game mechanics[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what it's about.
As far as I know, you can still donate to a server, and you can still have donator perks like Timber Mod, teleport commands, Making your creation protected, so on and so forth. As stated, it's in-game items that you can't lock behind a paywall on your server, and rightly so
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;45017872]From the article itself
Thanks for sensationalism in the title, this is just forbidding premium features on the servers[/QUOTE]
the dev still said that exact quote, he was just lying
[QUOTE=Winner;45020672]Yeah I doubt valve would care[/QUOTE]
you must not be aware of the lengths Valve has gone to in the past just to stop server-side cosmetics then
PCGamesN, that title was pathetic.
[QUOTE=Winner;45020947]that's different, that's taking potential item sales away from valve[/QUOTE]
More specifically, the whole reason Valve did stuff that prevented server-side cosmetics was because some fucks decided to make their own "store" for their server where they sold, among other things, "official" hats put on other classes and models they didn't get permission to sell.
Good donator perks:
Cosmetics
Titles
Name Colors
ETC
Bad donator perks:
Pay to Win
Giving you an advantage over your opponents
ETC
I sure hope they only stop the bad ones
[quote]If you are on a server, your experience should be the same as every other player[/quote]
This means everyone needs to be an admin on every server, otherwise your experience will be different. Isn't everyone's experience with minecraft different because people want to do different things anyways?
This change is stupid and they don't make it for the fact that some servers charge you for some basic game mechanics.
They change it because parents complain how their kids spend hundreds of dollars on those servers and complain at Mojang that they want their money back when it should be none of Mojangs business.
The parents fail to control their kids and Mojang takes the easy way out.
[quote="Notch"]We get a LOT of support errands from parents of kids that bought items for hundreds of dollars, wanting their money back.[/quote]
Sure, servers that basically sell vanilla mechanics for money are cancer but they also eliminate every honest hard working server that gives you harmless titles, capes or other stuff for a donation.
I'm sure this will reduce the amount of donations if there is almost no reward.
I wonder if this also affects streamers who have a subscriber plugin or those donate to spawn things mods.
I think something should have been done, but at the same time, this method is not the correct one. Maybe literally naming and shaming servers officially.
[img]http://5crat.ch/a/5cev[/img]
It's funny, you shouldn't be paying for that in the first place
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;45018004]on the one hand all the shitty minecraft servers will go away
on the other hand there are no other minecraft servers[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck plays on public minecraft servers? Minecraft is only good with friends
EULAs are weird stuff, it's like those are above and beyond the law.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45032832]Who the fuck plays on public minecraft servers? Minecraft is only good with friends[/QUOTE]
Minigames are fun...
[QUOTE=Scratch.;45032823][img]http://5crat.ch/a/5cev[/img]
It's funny, you shouldn't be paying for that in the first place[/QUOTE]
Theres nothing wrong with a developer spending a lot of time on a mod and wanting to sell it, e.g. a gmod gamemode that introduces a storyline and someone sells it for $4.99 or something
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;45018004]on the one hand all the shitty minecraft servers will go away
on the other hand there are no other minecraft servers[/QUOTE]
The best minecraft servers are those hosted between a circle of friends.
[QUOTE=n0cturni;45034291]The best minecraft servers are those hosted between a circle of friends.[/QUOTE]
The best [B]survival[/B] servers.
Everyone should just swap on over to Modded servers like FTB or Tekkit.
Mojang can't do shit for people charging for blocks/privileges that Mojang never coded in the first place. That IP belongs to the person who coded the mod, not Mojang.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45036925]Everyone should just swap on over to Modded servers like FTB or Tekkit.
Mojang can't do shit for people charging for blocks/privileges that Mojang never coded in the first place. That IP belongs to the person who coded the mod, not Mojang.[/QUOTE]
Thats the thing though, grums comments were very heavy handed and would effect those as well if it were up to him
[QUOTE=redsoxrock;45037790]Thats the thing though, grums comments were very heavy handed and would effect those as well if it were up to him[/QUOTE]
Sure it's what he wants but it wouldn't work. Any plugin/mod is the IP of whoever created it, it's like trying to take someone else's work as your own despite the obvious fact that you didn't make it.
Sure selling vanilla items is a shit thing to do and it's within their right to stop that but it sure isn't there right to stop server owners selling things that they or modders made themselves.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45038325]Sure it's what he wants but it wouldn't work. Any plugin/mod is the IP of whoever created it, it's like trying to take someone else's work as your own despite the obvious fact that you didn't make it.
Sure selling vanilla items is a shit thing to do and it's within their right to stop that but it sure isn't there right to stop server owners selling things that they or modders made themselves.[/QUOTE]
That why people got vocal. Hopefully the new EULA will clear up the ambiguity.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45036925]Everyone should just swap on over to Modded servers like FTB or Tekkit.
Mojang can't do shit for people charging for blocks/privileges that Mojang never coded in the first place. That IP belongs to the person who coded the mod, not Mojang.[/QUOTE]
Oldish bump but they own the IP to the server. The only way for that to work is if they made their own server.. unfortunately
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