Ron Paul pleases supporters at rally with his ideas of liberty - Polidicks

[IMG]http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/2010-2019/Wires/Online/2012-02-19/AP/Images/Paul%202012.JPEG-02026.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/2010-2019/Wires/Online/2012-02-19/AP/Images/Paul%202012.JPEG-0ffbe.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/2010-2019/Wires/Online/2012-02-19/AP/Images/Paul%202012.JPEG-0870d.jpg[/IMG] [release]More than 2,000 Ron Paul supporters came out to see their candidate speak at a campaign rally held Saturday evening at Union Station in Kansas City, Mo. “It looks like the revolution has arrived,” Ron Paul said upon seeing the cheering crowd. “It gives me a great sense of confidence that [B]we are winning the battle.” In his 36 minute speech, the libertarian-minded Republican presidential candidate spoke about defending freedom, balancing the budget and bringing U.S. troops home from foreign wars. “We have to convert the sentiment of this country, and the sentiment has to concentrate on one issue. That is, the defense of liberty,” Paul said. Paul also spoke of the need for citizens to assume responsibility for themselves rather than expecting the government to take care of them. The rising cost of the entitlement system has led the United States to be the biggest debtor nation in the history of the world, he said. Paul pledged to end foreign wars, where more than 9,000 U.S. troops have been killed and another 44,000 have been injured. Repealing the Patriot Act as well as the ‘War on Drugs’ were steps he would take to restore the Fourth Amendment, which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, he said. Toward the end of the speech, Paul noted the diversity of supporters attracted to his ideas of liberty and limited government, both young and old. “Remember, freedom is popular,” Paul said as his closing remark. Youth for Ron Paul, a student organization on campus, volunteered at the event. With a mailing list of over 1,500 students, the group is the largest Ron Paul student group in the country. Approximately 15 members assisted with the event. Alexandria Freeze, a junior from Phoenix, said she agrees with Ron Paul’s views on a non-interventionist foreign policy. At the event, she helped collect supporters’ information for the campaign with hopes of spreading the word. “I feel like young people are more open to change and can accept radically different ideas,” Freeze said. The event was an effort to rally support for the upcoming Kansas and Missouri caucuses, held March 10 and 17, respectively. Nicolas Wilson, a junior from Topeka who attended the rally on Saturday, sees Ron Paul’s approach of focusing on delegates at caucuses as beneficial to the campaign in the long run, especially in the case of brokered Republican convention. “Ron Paul stands up for positions supported by the people, but not mainstream politicians,” Wilson said. [/release] [URL="http://www.kansan.com/news/2012/feb/19/ron-paul/?news"]Source.[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/paul-warns-us-slipping-toward-fascism-at-mo-rally-upstaging-nearby-republican-party-events/2012/02/18/gIQAk8daMR_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop"]Alternate Source.[/URL] [URL="http://fox4kc.com/2012/02/19/kansas-citians-show-support-for-ron-paul/"]Alternate Alternate Source.[/URL] [URL="http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/18/3438040/gop-presidential-candidate-ron.html"]Alternate Alternate Alternate Source.[/URL]

Good for him

As long as he doesn't let his batshit personal beliefs get in the way, it'll be fine.

Wish he would do one closer to the east coast so I could go.

[quote]“It looks like the revolution has arrived, [...] It gives me a great sense of confidence that we are winning the battle.”[/quote] That's a good one. Not really a message I can believe in.

Too bad he has batshit insane views on race and abortion. Otherwise, he seems pretty ok.

[QUOTE=person11;34781065]Too bad he has batshit insane views on race and abortion. Otherwise, he seems pretty ok.[/QUOTE] I honestly don't think problems like abortion are the ones thats crippling the US.

The only positive I see in this guy is eliminating the war on drugs.. His economic ideas are total shit. Eliminate the Income tax? OKAY Leave civil rights up to the states? OKAY

[QUOTE=Laferio;34781096]I honestly don't think problems like abortion are the ones thats crippling the US.[/QUOTE] Are you a female? If not, you may want to shut up and stop trying to claim that abortion is [I]not[/I] an important issue.

[QUOTE=person11;34781065]Too bad he has batshit insane views on race and abortion. Otherwise, he seems pretty ok.[/QUOTE] I'd rather take a person with unpopular personal views but rational and effective policies over someone who, "thinks just like me" at the cost of fixing the country's problems. At worst his attempts at legislation will be shot down by the Supreme Court.

[QUOTE=Laferio;34781096]I honestly don't think problems like abortion are the ones thats crippling the US.[/QUOTE] Even if abortion wasn't important, Ron Paul's positions on fixing the economy are awful.

[QUOTE=Keegs;34781114]The only positive I see in this guy is eliminating the war on drugs.. His economic ideas are total shit. Eliminate the Income tax? OKAY Leave civil rights up to the states? OKAY[/QUOTE] Civil Rights is already left up to the states as is, I'm pretty sure the world isn't over yet.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34781234]I'd rather take a person with unpopular personal views but rational policies over someone who just maintains the status quo. At worst his attempts at legislation will be shot down by the Supreme Court.[/QUOTE] I guess being contrary to everyone in the field of economics passes off as being "rational" these days.

His few good ideas are negated by his several batshit insane views. His supporters ignore all of his batshit insane views or try to justify/downplay them.

Ron Paul came to my area Friday, it was really cool.

[QUOTE=KorJax;34781245]Civil Rights is already left up to the states as is, I'm pretty sure the world isn't over yet.[/QUOTE] Which civil rights are we talking about here? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964]The Civil Rights Act[/url] of 1964 was a federal law. I'm sure there are some Civil Rights left to the states like gay marriage, but a lot of them are federal at this point.

I love ron but our government would sooner assassinate him than let him step foot in office.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;34781354]It's not an important issue, hell it's not even an issue, all the people trying to push it towards being made illegal are religious nutjobs no one listens to except atheists on the internet that hate the Republican party. Deal with it, the chances of abortion being made illegal or having anything else bad happen to it is next to zero, it's not an issue at all and bringing it up only gives attention to the few retards pushing for it's ban.[/QUOTE] It is people like you who allow Republicans to quietly write up laws nearly banning Abortion in Virginia and Oklahoma. Abortion is more under threat right now than you will ever understand as a guy. (I am assuming that most Ron Paul supporters are white males in college or younger)

[QUOTE=person11;34781379]It is people like you who allow Republicans to quietly write up laws nearly banning Abortion in Virginia and Oklahoma. Abortion is more under threat right now than you will ever understand as a guy. (I am assuming that most Ron Paul supporters are white males in college or younger)[/QUOTE] is it possible for you to stop making this about whether or not you're a guy or a girl or a white college student or not and just argue your point your little "i know the facts because i am a girl/know girls" schtick is so painful to read you don't have to have a cunt to understand that abortion is an important issue, but the entire point here was that abortion, as an issue, is completely insignificant in comparison to other issues on the table that doesn't mean abortion isn't an issue and it doesn't mean Atlas isnt being stupid by pretending it isn't, but the point of Laferio's post (i assume) is that abortion isn't exactly the top priority of united states politics considering everything else going on

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul[/URL] He said he wants the states to decide what to do regarding drugs, he's not going to federally decriminalize them. He pledged to never raise taxes. He's pro-life. He's against federal health care. He said global warming is a hoax, he also doesn't believe the government should get involved in regulating the environment. He's against the Civil Rights Act. He's also fine with letting states decide whether it's ok to invade your privacy. [quote]Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment "right to privacy". Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution. There are, however, states' rights – rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34781234]I'd rather take a person with unpopular personal views but rational and effective policies over someone who, "thinks just like me" at the cost of fixing the country's problems. At worst his attempts at legislation will be shot down by the Supreme Court.[/QUOTE] No they won't?

His stance on abortion just makes him an asshole in my eyes. His stance on economics and civil rights is what makes him unelectable. [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] Also typical Ron Paul SH thread ABORTION ISNT IMPORTANT HES NOT AS BAD AS THE OTHER GUYS Nothing to see here folks move along.

Abortion is hard to understand as a major issue because it is hard to understand the feeling of not being able to control a part of your own body. Belittling Abortion as a major issue simply makes it easier to State Congresses all over the country to pass laws that make it ever more difficult for poor women to have access to abortions.

[QUOTE=person11;34781517]Abortion is hard to understand as a major issue because it is hard to understand the feeling of not being able to control a part of your own body. Belittling Abortion as a major issue simply makes it easier to State Congresses all over the country to pass laws that make it ever more difficult for poor women to have access to abortions.[/QUOTE] have you ever been told you weren't allowed to have an abortion

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34781234]I'd rather take a person with unpopular personal views but rational and effective policies over someone who, "thinks just like me" at the cost of fixing the country's problems. At worst his attempts at legislation will be shot down by the Supreme Court.[/QUOTE] banning abortion is not a rational or effective policy. [QUOTE=Kopimi;34781551]have you ever been told you weren't allowed to have an abortion[/QUOTE] plenty of women are told that by a certain large section of society who are doing everything in their power to take away a woman's right to an abortion. they're not legally prohibited from doing so, but through their war on planned parenthood and their tactics of demagoguery they have created an atmosphere in which many women who desire an abortion feel that they are prohibited (by society, not the law) from having an abortion. [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kopimi;34781435] that doesn't mean abortion isn't an issue and it doesn't mean Atlas isnt being stupid by pretending it isn't, but the point of Laferio's post (i assume) is that abortion isn't exactly the top priority of united states politics considering everything else going on[/QUOTE] you mean human rights aren't a top priority?

[QUOTE=Kopimi;34781551]have you ever been told you weren't allowed to have an abortion[/QUOTE] I think her point is that ron paul wants to ban it. Thats why shes idk against him? Shes not worried now, shes worried about what will happen if ron paul or any republican gets in office.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;34781551]have you ever been told you weren't allowed to have an abortion[/QUOTE] That'd be difficult since I am a guy. And I understand that Abortion is not under threat of becoming completely illegal. Knowing full well that Roe vs Wade protects women from anti-abortion laws, Republicans have been simply making Abortion more difficult to access financially and physically, while setting up programs to dissuade women from getting them (trying to stop abortion from being subsidized by the government, closing down various Planned Parenthoods, and forcing women to get trans-vaginal ultrasounds before getting an Abortion). "Personhood" bills are being deliberated in Virginia and Oklahoma right now, and both bills would ban abortion in each state. This is symbolic, since Federal law would nullify those two bills, but is just one of the many signs that show that Abortion is under attack in this country. Another good sign that Abortion is under attack? More and more women are being forced to undertake clandestine abortions, which are extremely dangerous, painful, and a callback to before Roe vs Wade, when women would die of painful infections post abortion.

i know you called it a shtick but it's true. you'd probably think at least a little differently about the importance of abortion rights if you were a woman who needed an abortion.

[QUOTE=person11;34781191]Are you a female? If not, you may want to shut up and stop trying to claim that abortion is [I]not[/I] an important issue.[/QUOTE] You people who when faced with the opinion of "abortion is not the most important issue at the moment" say something like "You're not a woman! I can't believe you said abortion is not important!" need to get over yourselves. The abortion is IS there but the US has a lot bigger problems at the moment.

[QUOTE=Keegs;34781114]The only positive I see in this guy is eliminating the war on drugs.. His economic ideas are total shit. Eliminate the Income tax? OKAY Leave civil rights up to the states? OKAY[/QUOTE] I don't understand why most of FP like him so much, I think because he is the "underdog"m his ideas are the worst.