• 'Have cake and eat it' Brexit notes downplayed by UK government
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[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38134859"]Source.[/URL] [QUOTE]The government has distanced itself from a page of Brexit notes caught on camera in Westminster. The handwritten notes, carried by an aide to Conservative MP Mark Field, included "what's the model? Have your cake and eat it" and "unlikely" in reference to the EU single market. They were photographed after Mr Field and his aide left a meeting with the Brexit department at 9 Downing Street. The government said the notes did not reflect its Brexit position. "These individual notes do not belong to a government official or a special adviser. They do not reflect the government's position in relation to Brexit negotiations," a spokesman said. Captured on a long-lens camera by photographer Steve Back, they refer to difficulties the government faces after it begins the formal two-year process of EU withdrawal next year. "Difficult on article 50 implementation - Barnier wants to see what deal looks like first," they note, in an apparent reference to the lead EU negotiator Michel Barnier. "Got to be done in parallel - 20 odd negotiations. Keep the two years. Won't provide more detail. We think it's unlikely we'll be offered single market," they also say. [/QUOTE] I'd say that these morons made their bed and should lie in it but that would mean dragging the rest of the country down with them onto the bed of nails that it entails.
The notes ruled out the norway scenario and mentioned a Canada type deal. Haven't people learned not to openly carry notes like this. Surely they've seen thick of it.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51444158]The notes ruled out the norway scenario and mentioned a Canada type deal. Haven't people learned not to openly carry notes like this. Surely they've seen thick of it.[/QUOTE] which canada type deal do they mean exactly
[QUOTE=SirJon;51444285]which canada type deal do they mean exactly[/QUOTE] CETA I dunno much about it so maybe get a 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion but it seems to be limited free trade, not yet fully agreed. [url]http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-commerce/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/ceta-aecg/index.aspx?lang=eng[/url] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/15/brexit-canada-trade-deal-eu-model-next-steps[/url] The good (to what i can gather): 98% of trade from canada will be tariff free shared regulations (good for consumers) Easy border movement (possibly free movement for business people) The bad: shared regulations (businesses types want to lower regulations) Still have quotas on some products No input to deciding EU standards and regulations (ie the ones u follow) No freedom for movement for none business types (not sure how this works but I sure want free movement to EU) No financial passport (this isn't nice) TTIP style corporate bullshit (company can sue government for potential loss of profit) Issues: Canada only has 10% trade with EU so the scale is somewhat different. Canadian exports aren't produced much in EU so don't pose a threat in terms of competition (so tariff free trade is easier) UK products and services will directly compete with EU products and services. It took years to negotiate, uk doesnt have years and Canada had more power in negotiation since it had other options.
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