• £1000 pc build
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[url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1SdUF[/url] This is a rough sketch up. Obviously completely botched and the motherboard is probably for an atari as I don't know shit about pc parts apart from obviously gpu's and a little about cpu's which is common and easy to find knowledge. Anyway, I'm roughly at a £1000 budget (a bit more, perhaps.) I also already have windows 7 so that's fine. I am looking for a high end gaming pc to play rust on max fps ... no but seriously next gen games such as metro: last night and gta 5 when it's out. Also I prefer nvidia. But if it's necessary I can use ATI as well. I'm ok with building a pc but plz no water cooling! unless it's something extremely easily fitted with no knowledge of pc building. Thanks! PS. I'm from the UK.
[url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Sedo[/url] You could also downgrade to a R9 280X and not miss out on too much performance which I recommend for it's value compared to the 780. Not to mention if you did downgrade, you could go for a samsung 840 pro and still be within budget.
Is windows 8 worth the £65 for the upgrade? also is a SSD worth it?
An SSD is definitely worth it, the loadtimes and responsiveness is leagues above harddrives. As for windows 8... it's not really much more than an improved windows 7 once you've got classicshell installed, i'm not sure if the improvements would be worth 65£ though. I got my copy for 20£ on the initial sale, i wouldn't pay much more for it myself. There's been rumours that microsoft will put 8.1 on a similar sale, maybe wait to see if that'll be the case? [editline]23rd October 2013[/editline] I agree with flayne on the 280X. The nvidia 780 is overkill for a 1920x1080 resolution, the best nvidia alternative being the 770. The 280X is cheaper and faster, however, and both sides of the camp have equal amounts of driver problems these days, so there's no real reason not to save money on it
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so basically what you are all saying is the build I made is fine? apart from the suggestion to downgrade to a 280x, everything else is good? it's all compatible and everything I would need is there? no other suggestions? I think I need to figure out how to use question marks properly? [editline]24th October 2013[/editline] Is 16gb ram necessary these days? last time I checked 8gb was the most needed, but that was years ago. Has the requirement for ram gone up?
[QUOTE=Lurklet;42631007]so basically what you are all saying is the build I made is fine? apart from the suggestion to downgrade to a 280x, everything else is good? it's all compatible and everything I would need is there? no other suggestions? I think I need to figure out how to use question marks properly? [editline]24th October 2013[/editline] is CPU watercooling hard to install? how hard would it be to install a Noctua NH-D14? [editline]24th October 2013[/editline] Is 16gb ram necessary these days? last time I checked 8gb was the most needed, but that was years ago. Has the requirement for ram gone up?[/QUOTE] Flayne changed a lot in his link but kept case preferences etc, you're better off going with his one He changed the processor to the newer haswell generation, motherboard to a better model, better RAM, different case fan and a different PSU. He kept the 780 in the link, but we still recommend going for the 280x instead.
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;42631612]Flayne changed a lot in his link but kept case preferences etc, you're better off going with his one He changed the processor to the newer haswell generation, motherboard to a better model, better RAM, different case fan and a different PSU[/QUOTE] Yes I've taken his link and I'm doing a bit more research on ram and maybe better a better cooler (noctua D14.)
The noctua NH-D14 isn't watercooling, it's a powerful air cooler. It's more powerful than the 212 evo, so if you want to overclock a lot go for that one instead. Pre-assembled watercooling isn't worth the often ridiculous asking price in comparison to air cooling imho, but if you really want it, installing it would be the same as an air cooler, just that you have to screw the radiator and some fans onto a free spot in your case [editline]24th October 2013[/editline] 16GB is not necessary for today's computers, you'll be fine with 8. goddamnit my automerge
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;42631651]The noctua NH-D14 isn't watercooling, it's a powerful air cooler. It's more powerful than the 212 evo, so if you want to overclock a lot go for that one instead. Pre-assembled watercooling isn't worth the often ridiculous asking price in comparison to air cooling imho, but if you really want it, installing it would be the same as an air cooler, just that you have to screw the radiator and some fans onto a free spot in your case [editline]24th October 2013[/editline] 16GB is not necessary for today's computers, you'll be fine with 8. goddamnit my automerge[/QUOTE] thanks!
Power supply is a complete waste, you don't need platinum certified. The different between even 80PLUS (not even bronze) and platinum is only 10%. Really really not worth it at all. Go for an 80PLUS bronze certified. Also unless you are planning to use the PSU for a 3/4 GPU system, don't bother with anything higher than 750w, it's a waste. Each certification level is 25W extra limit plus a base 50W for safety (thats not how it actually works, but it is a good rule of thumb to go by). For example, if you have a PC that uses 600W at full load, you could use a 650W platinum, 675W gold, 700W silver and a 725W bronze PSU. To give you an example of power usage a PC with 2 7990's, an i7, 4 HDD's, 2 SSD's and 6 LED fan's uses 700w, meaning that an 825W bronze PSU is perfectly ok for that. A PC with an i5, a 7970, 2 HDD's, an SSD and 6 LED fans uses 410W. So you could use a 535W bronze for that system. (ofc, you would have to go 550 since you can't find a 535W PSU) DO NOT FALL INTO THE PSU MYTH. Don't buy the noctua fans for case fans, very expensive and as case fans they won't spin up to the speeds of CPU fan's therefore the fact they are very quiet isn't very important at all. Also the R4 has 140mm fan holes at the top, so buy 140mm fans for the top, not 120. Buy a DH-14 if you want a better CPU cooler, but you won't need it unless you want to be incredibly enthusiastic about overclocking, a 212 evo is fine. The 780 you chose is overkill based on it's price for 1080p, you will not really notice any performance difference between a 770 and a 780 at 1080p. Personally I would recommend AMD over nvidia since nvidia cards are always more expensive than the equivalent performing AMD card. The only benefits nvidia cards have over AMD is physx and frametimes are generally a few % better in SLI systems vs crossfire systems, single GPU they are both the same. However AMD cards have FAR better computing power (for things such as folding@home/bitcoin mining etc) Anything else anyone tells you is simply a fanboy argument. 1080p I would go for an R9-280X/7970 Also I would HIGHLY recommend an SSD. It makes literally everything on your PC faster.
[QUOTE=Meladath;42651346]Don't buy the noctua fans for case fans, very expensive and as case fans they won't spin up to the speeds of CPU fan's therefore the fact they are very quiet isn't very important at all.[/QUOTE] Pretty much, you pay extra for some quieter fans but never go overboard because it just isn't worth it. Always splash more on the CPU heatsink, a case fan is a case fan really and most of them are already stupidly quiet.
Thanks guys. Currently messing around with this. [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1UyxO[/url] What's a good amount of case fans for good cooling? and which ones should I get? (Fans are cheap. Pref the extra cooling if it's worth it.)
[QUOTE=Lurklet;42682563]Thanks guys. Currently messing around with this. [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1UyxO[/url] What's a good amount of case fans for good cooling? and which ones should I get? (Fans are cheap. Pref the extra cooling if it's worth it.)[/QUOTE] Get the i5-4670K you will notice no differrence in gaming performence. The i7's hyper thrading is mainly for heavy rendering/compiling etc.
[url]http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169719-nvidia-announces-gtx-780-ti-and-deep-price-cuts-in-response-to-amd-r9-barrage[/url] fuck yeah
[QUOTE=Lurklet;42682563]Thanks guys. Currently messing around with this. [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1UyxO[/url] What's a good amount of case fans for good cooling? and which ones should I get? (Fans are cheap. Pref the extra cooling if it's worth it.)[/QUOTE] You are wasting money on the i7, you will notice literally no difference in performance for the price jump unless you are video/3d rendering a lot of the time. Unless you are going to do EXTREME (and by that, I mean very extreme) overclocking you can bump the cooler down to a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO easily, there is very little temp difference and you will save a fair chunk on that too. To give you a good idea, I have an i5-4670k OC to 4.4GHz @ 1.25V and I only get 78c under extreme stress testing. You generally want to allow up to 85c to be safe, and I have a 212 EVO. Other than that it looks like a good build. The default fans in the R4 are good enough for air flow, personally I got myself another one in the front (the same one that comes with it) as well as 2 slightly weaker fans in the top so that the in/out is more balanced. I would recommend getting another fan in the front and 1 more in the top, if you can get the same ones that are installed.
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