Whats with the Israel hate? - General

Its been a long-known tradition to hate Israel around these forums, but why? I understand that Israel has done some pretty bad things to Palestinians, but what I think most people fail to understand is that the hate comes from both sides. Israel wouldn't be acting this way if most arab countries didn't try to annihilate them on several occasions, which most people seem to forget. Another fact that people seem to forget is that prior to the extremely strict (and borderline human rights violation) actions done by Israel to the Palestinians, there were frequent terrorist attacks done on a weekly basis. Not to mention that during a time of peace, Hamas launched missiles into Israel. Also, about the whole killing civilians dilemma, during the invasion of the Gaza Strip last year, Hamas used hospitals, schools, and mosques as staging areas and using innocent Palestinians as human shields. So, before you hop on the "Israel is an illegal, evil country" bandwagon, take into account the circumstances of which they live in. [b]TL;DR[/b]: Stop focusing your hate only on Israel, because the other sides are the same if not worse.

What? No one here hates Israel, I bet some people live there who go here.

Nobody here hates Israel. The people you're referring to hate zionism. And it's also a recent trend, actually.

I don't hate Israel, I hate human-rights violations.

[QUOTE=Billiam;23141662]I don't hate Israel, I hate human-rights violations.[/QUOTE] I like Israel, and I like how they raped that flotilla, if that's what you're referring to. They were gonna use that cement to make bunkers and shit. I can guarantee it. Sorry, but the people who were on the boat were stupid people that supported terrorism. And the people who were from completely different countries (I think some were from Canada) were dumbasses for getting involved. Herp, let's go on a terrorist flotilla and somehow prove that we can go past a checkpoint that the Israelis control!

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23141556] So, before you hop on the "Israel is an illegal, evil country" bandwagon, take into account the circumstances of which they live in. .[/QUOTE] Yeah, Their country is in such dire need, Their trying to bulldoze houses for a convention/tourist center. What will they ever do without one of those.

I hate the terrorists who launch rockets at apartment complexes just as much as I hate the Israeli government.

Another reason for hating Israel might be that a majority of its inhabitants are either direct immigrants or descendants of immigrants from wealthy, already habitable parts of the world. (Why come to a threatened country to grab land from others when you've already got a satisfactory life in Europe or the US? To be a dick, that's why.) And also how they keep using Nazi policies against others, as if they had learned nothing from past experiences.

[B]Israelis Kill Children[/B]

[QUOTE=Cheezy;23141973]Another reason for hating Israel might be that a majority of its inhabitants are either direct immigrants or descendants of immigrants from wealthy, already habitable parts of the world. (Why come to a threatened country to grab land from others when you've already got a satisfactory life in Europe or the US? To be a dick, that's why.) And also how they keep using Nazi policies against others, as if they had learned nothing from past experiences.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the average palestinian is more ethnically hebrew then the average israeli.

it's just because people think antisemitism is funny...

[QUOTE=Ace of Snails;23142200]it's just because people think antisemitism is funny...[/QUOTE] This is truth.

I can smell the shit storm brewing...

[QUOTE=Bllasae;23141696]I like Israel, and I like how they raped that flotilla, if that's what you're referring to. They were gonna use that cement to make bunkers and shit. I can guarantee it. Sorry, but the people who were on the boat were stupid people that supported terrorism. And the people who were from completely different countries (I think some were from Canada) were dumbasses for getting involved. Herp, let's go on a terrorist flotilla and somehow prove that we can go past a checkpoint that the Israelis control![/QUOTE] This guy sent me a message trying to get me to change my avatar, by the way.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23142249]This guy sent me a message trying to get me to change my avatar, by the way.[/QUOTE] So? I sent you the picture of Hank Scorpio with his coat backwards.

[QUOTE=Bllasae;23142268]So? I sent you the picture of Hank Scorpio with his coat backwards.[/QUOTE] I thought it was an interesting action given your viewpoint.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23142279]I thought it was an interesting action given your viewpoint.[/QUOTE] ITT Real Life =/= Cartoons

[QUOTE=Conscript;23141648]Nobody here hates Israel. The people you're referring to hate zionism. And it's also a recent trend, actually.[/QUOTE] I hate Israel. The Israeli state shouldn't exist, the land belongs to Palestine. [editline]09:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ace of Snails;23142200]it's just because people think antisemitism is funny...[/QUOTE] Hating Israel != Hating Judaism

[QUOTE=Bllasae;23142296]ITT Real Life =/= Cartoons[/QUOTE] Yes, I was obviously referring to you wearing a coat backwards and that being an odd thing for you to do. You see I'm quite looney like that.

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23141556]Its been a long-known tradition to hate Israel around these forums, but why? I understand that Israel has done some pretty bad things to Palestinians, but what I think most people fail to understand is that the hate comes from both sides. Israel wouldn't be acting this way if most arab countries didn't try to annihilate them on several occasions, which most people seem to forget. Another fact that people seem to forget is that prior to the extremely strict (and borderline human rights violation) actions done by Israel to the Palestinians, there were frequent terrorist attacks done on a weekly basis. Not to mention that during a time of peace, Hamas launched missiles into Israel. Also, about the whole killing civilians dilemma, during the invasion of the Gaza Strip last year, Hamas used hospitals, schools, and mosques as staging areas and using innocent Palestinians as human shields. So, before you hop on the "Israel is an illegal, evil country" bandwagon, take into account the circumstances of which they live in. [B]TL;DR[/B]: Stop focusing your hate only on Israel, because the other sides are the same if not worse.[/QUOTE] If Palestine was never stolen by the UN and Israelis in the first place there wouldn't be the hate. Also, Palestinians try and make their own home and Israel has to attack them, bulldoze their houses, create settlements in their land, and other shit.

[QUOTE=Billiam;23141662]I don't hate Israel, I hate human-rights violations.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ace of Snails;23142200]it's just because people think antisemitism is funny...[/QUOTE] Anti-Zionism is not the same as Anti-Semitism.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23142326]Yes, I was obviously referring to you wearing a coat backwards and that being an odd thing for you to do. You see I'm quite looney like that.[/QUOTE] Yeah, cause that's what I meant.

[QUOTE=Ace of Snails;23142200]it's just because people think antisemitism is funny...[/QUOTE] No, it's not. It's a given that there are your teenage nazis that roam the internet that are too fucked up to realize the horrors the jews were put through, but it's stupid to assume everyone is like that. It's the same thing as saying a person is racist because they don't like a particular person who happens to be black. People fail to realize that there is a genuine reason for disliking Israel and their policies.

[QUOTE=janky;23142376]No, it's not. It's a given that there are your teenage nazis that roam the internet that are too fucked up to realize the horrors the jews were put through, but that's a stupid assumption. It's the same thing as saying a person is racist because they don't like a particular person who happens to be black.[/QUOTE] More like saying that if you don't support Uganda's anti-sodomy and anti-homosexuality laws you are a racist.

Isreal gave me cancer

[QUOTE=Bllasae;23142368]Yeah, cause that's what I meant.[/QUOTE] Seeing as how I never referenced a cartoon or actions in a cartoon and that's the only action in a cartoon that has been mentioned, that's all that you could have possibly been referring to.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23142410]Seeing as how I never referenced a cartoon or actions in a cartoon and that's the only action in a cartoon that has been mentioned, that's all that you could have possibly been referring to.[/QUOTE] I thought you were referring to terrorism, and seeing how Scorpio was a terrorist. I may have thought too deep into this.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;23142392]More like saying that if you don't support Uganda's anti-sodomy and anti-homosexuality laws you are a racist.[/QUOTE] This also works.

Because America always sides with them no matter how blatantly wrong their actions are. Even when it's an Israeli attack on an American ship (USS Liberty)