Trump's climate science denial clashes with reality of rising seas in Florida - Polidicks

[QUOTE]By [URL="http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-all-things-trump"]Donald Trump[/URL]’s account, scientists have tricked Americans into accepting that global warming is caused by the burning of fossil fuels. “I’m not a big believer in man-made climate change,” he told the Miami Herald on one of the rare recent occasions when he has talked about it. [B]A few blocks from the Miami Beach hotel where Trump spoke, water flooded over a seawall last year during the highest autumn tides, blocking traffic on one of South Florida’s main evacuation routes. The city is now elevating that street and many others as part of a $500-million program to protect itself from the rising ocean.[/B] Coastal communities in the biggest presidential battleground state are adapting not just to the threat of global warming, but to the reality of it. Trump’s rejection of climate science portends one of the most consequential changes in direction for the nation should he win the presidency. [B]The Republican nominee wants to withdraw the United States from the Paris climate pact, a nearly worldwide agreement to reduce the carbon emissions that cause global warming.[/B] He has called for scrapping Obama administration rules that cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants. He plans to lift constraints on oil, gas and coal production, saying trillions of dollars in economic activity will follow. [B]President Obama, whose legislative agenda on climate change was thwarted by Republicans in Congress, pushed the boundaries of executive power to fight global warming, leaving his successor ample room to reverse course.[/B] Like Obama, Trump’s Democratic rival, [URL="http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-all-things-clinton"]Hillary Clinton[/URL], regards global warming as an urgent threat. She has released plans to reduce carbon emissions, promote renewable energy and assist coal regions in recovering from the economic devastation brought on by the industry’s decline. [B]Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks declined a request to interview Trump or one of his advisors on global warming.[/B] [I]Global warming is an expensive hoax![/I][I]— Donald Trump on Twitter, Jan. 28, 2014[/I] [B]His position puts him at odds with top energy companies. [URL="http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-perspectives/our-position"]Exxon[/URL], [URL="https://www.chevron.com/corporate-responsibility/climate-change/climate-change-overview"]Chevron[/URL], [URL="http://www.shell.com/sustainability/environment/climate-change.html"]Shell [/URL]and [URL="http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/sustainability/the-energy-challenge-and-climate-change/the-climate-challenge.html"]BP [/URL]all acknowledge that burning of fossil fuels causes global warming. They encourage reduction of carbon emissions. [/B]“Donald Trump lives in a parallel universe where the facts established by the scientific community to him don’t exist,” said Anthony Leiserowitz, director of the Climate Change Communication program at Yale University. “The fact is that climate change is here and now. It’s not some faraway, distant problem that we’re not going to see for a generation or two.” Carbon pollution has caused [URL="http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/climate-trends-continue-to-break-records"]record-high temperatures[/URL] globally in each of the first six months of 2016, according to NASA. Last year was the planet’s [URL="http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/"]warmest on record[/URL]. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Alarmed by the threat to Florida’s giant tourism industry, Miami business leaders have championed the public works overhaul.[B] “We know the stakes,” said Mark Rosenberg, chairman of the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce. “At 5 feet over current levels, much of suburban Miami, including Miami Beach, is completely submerged.”[/B] To Doug Yoder, deputy director of the Miami-Dade Water and Sewer Department, the debate over climate science ended long ago. “There’s a point beyond which habitability, certainly at the scale and density that southeast Florida is currently developed to, would not be feasible,” he said. “Whether that point is 3 feet of sea-level rise, or 6 feet of sea-level rise, certainly at 10 feet of sea-level rise, there is a point of no return. The only way that point of no return could be avoided would be to effectively address greenhouse gas emissions.” And that, he said, “has to be managed at a global scale.” Trump, who owns several resorts in South Florida, has taken contradictory stands on climate change. In 2009, as world leaders gathered in Copenhagen for talks on a global climate pact, he joined other business leaders in signing an open letter to Obama and Congress. Published as a full-page ad in the New York Times, it called for “meaningful and effective measures to control climate change” and warned of “catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet” if they failed to act fast. Trump also endorsed the science of global warming in his May 2016 application for a permit to build a seawall at his golf resort in County Clare, Ireland, saying it was threatened by rising seas. But from 2011 to 2014, Trump made at least two dozen comments on Twitter mocking global warming, a theme he occasionally reprises in his campaign for president. “We can’t destroy the competitiveness of our factories in order to prepare for nonexistent global warming,” he tweeted in November 2012. “China is thrilled with us!” The next day, he said the Chinese created the concept of global warming as a ploy to snatch U.S. manufacturing jobs. (Just a joke, he said years later.) “I’m in Los Angeles and it’s freezing,” Trump wrote in 2013. “Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!” Weeks later, he called it “a total con job.” Trump’s commentary soon turned profane. In January 2014, he tweeted: [B]“This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.”[/B] [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-climate-miami-20160918-snap-story.html[/URL]

[quote]I’m in Los Angeles and it’s freezing[/quote] [img]https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/44610303.jpg[/img] Literally Donald Trump's logic. I'm surprised to see that [I]Oil Companies[/I], of all people or entities, are calling him out on his climate change stance. That's pretty fuckin' sad, they're largely responsible and yet they are acknowledging it before a Presidential Candidate.

The widespread denial of climate change within the Republican Party is why I can't take them seriously, it fucking baffles me how retarded you have to be to not believe climate change is real. The Republican Party is that one thing that hinders the USA enjoying many things that Europeans can enjoy and I hope it will change eventually.

[url=http://xkcd.com/1732/]Trump's climate change denial clashes with reality of reality[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51071592][img]https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/44610303.jpg[/img] Literally Donald Trump's logic. I'm surprised to see that [I]Oil Companies[/I], of all people or entities, are calling him out on his climate change stance. That's pretty fuckin' sad, they're largely responsible and yet they are acknowledging it before a Presidential Candidate.[/QUOTE] just because BP, Exxon and folk have begrudgingly acknowledged it, they also advance the politicians and policies that deter action to stop said global warming

Narr .. its all a hoax. James Inhofe found snow outside. [t]http://i.imgur.com/tnNsqx4.jpg[/t] - If it gets hotter .. how come there are still snow outside? - If we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys? - World hunger is over. I just ate today. [srs] No sure if the source is correct .. but we got until 2020 to cut 15% off our CO2 emissions. [t]http://i.imgur.com/Rjdlzjz.gif[/t]

[QUOTE=Nak;51071757][srs] No sure if the source is correct .. but we got until 2020 to cut 15% off our CO2 emissions.[/QUOTE] I don't think that's enough time.

[QUOTE=Drury;51071693][url=http://xkcd.com/1732/]Trump's climate change denial clashes with reality of reality[/url][/QUOTE] that xkcd terrifies me

guys how can global warming exist if the earths arctic edge hasn't collapsed sending the entire ocean into the abyss??????? #FlatEarthTruth

[QUOTE=J!NX;51072155]guys how can global warming exist if the earths arctic edge hasn't collapsed sending the entire ocean into the abyss??????? #FlatEarthTruth[/QUOTE] poseidon and his son neptune are keeping the waters up for us every time magellan and his crew and kamikaze planes try to pass one of the edges of the world they get zipped through an invisible portal to the other side

[QUOTE=J!NX;51072155]guys how can global warming exist if the earths arctic edge hasn't collapsed sending the entire ocean into the abyss??????? #FlatEarthTruth[/QUOTE] The NASA wall holds up the ocean duhhh. The Ice is just built up around it.

Blood's boiling over here. What a big, cruel joke.

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Crooked Hillary Clinton is in league with Poseidon, Duh.

One day, when the collective ignorance of conservatives leads to this shit occurring, it'd be fitting for them to be dragged from their cushy mansions and offices and thrown into the flooded regions.

[QUOTE=freaka;51071613]The widespread denial of climate change within the Republican Party is why I can't take them seriously, it fucking baffles me how retarded you have to be to not believe climate change is real. The Republican Party is that one thing that hinders the USA enjoying many things that Europeans can enjoy and I hope it will change eventually.[/QUOTE] The thought of becoming "just like Europe!" shouldn't be very high on anyone's priority list.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51073231]One day, when the collective ignorance of conservatives leads to this shit occurring, it'd be fitting for them to be dragged from their cushy mansions and offices and thrown into the flooded regions.[/QUOTE] Yeah well, that doesn't have anything to do with global warming, it's obviously gawd punishing the U.S for giving those filthy fags rights

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;51077742]Yeah well, that doesn't have anything to do with global warming, it's obviously gawd punishing the U.S for giving those filthy fags rights[/QUOTE] See, you're joking, but there will be people who actually justify their lack of action by saying this -- even if only to themselves.

[QUOTE=Devil Traitor;51072137]I don't think that's enough time.[/QUOTE] It already too late. Biodiversity is suffering and ecosystems are collapsing. Short of a world widen 1990s soviet style collapse, not much we can do.