• How do I convince my "anarchist" friend he's an idiot?
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One of my friends is strongly convinced that the government is a pure evil and that it needs to be abolished. His idea is that the "market" will take over and guide prices and everything will be stable. He says he doesn't "want to do useful work and get paid, without having to report it for taxation, confiscation, and regulation." I have tried every form of logic and provided examples to why his ideas won't work, but he won't listen. It's like he thinks the "free market" is some magical, self correcting force. He says stuff like "the government is restricting innovation and new technologies" and "government prevents competition from forming." When talking about a military force, he says they would be replaced by militias. I ask where the money for all the equipment such as air crafts, ships, and land vehicles come from, along with all the training. He stated that we won't need any of those besides ground forces which would be "self funded" or something. One of the examples I have given to him was a company forms. Let's call it Company A. This company makes Drug A which is highly addictive, but has no other negative side effects other than a horrible, non-lethal withdrawal period. It has added benefits of increasing cognitive abilities, such as a nootropic of today (look at Ritalin. pretty much does everything I said without the super high addiction rates). This company now has a huge number of shareholders. This company has a huge amount of market influence. They essentially control the market, along with other very powerful companies. I He then added Company B which makes a clone of the drug and tries to market it. It's a huge cooperation (which according to my friend cannot exist without a government for some reason). I then try to prove that a simple market take over won't work by adding Company B into the mix, which came out with it's own version of a drug, called Drug B. This company is still small. Guess what Company A does. They buy them out. No more competition. My friend then adds Company C, which introduces an antidote to the addiction. I try to buy them out with Company A, but apparently the refuse. I now hire a private militia and bomb their headquarters and assassinate their CEO. My friend says this will never happen, look at the "Third Afghan War, Soviet War in Afghanistan, Operation Enduring Freedom." In other words, he's trying to say that Company A will go bankrupt trying to destroy the new company. I retort by saying that Company A is fucking massive and the attack barely dents their quarterly profits. The argument wages on. I just cannot convince him that his new world will not work. It is based on speculation, which is already an imperfect system. It also is based on some communistic values in the sense that he assumes that all companies will balance themselves out and be equals and and that no one company or person holds all the power.
Give him a good hot dicking.
It's his opinion, he'll never do anything about. Let him keep it.
Run him over with a steam roller.
Punch the fucker! He should not be your friend if he is that retarded.
Tell him to wake up to reality and his stupid dream won't do shit.
He's not anarchist, he's libertarian. Anarchists don't believe in the free market at all, and rather, a "gift economy", your friend should research his crap before defining himself. Edit: Just re-read it 1) If he was actually an anarchist, there would be no "militias", as they would stand a symbol of oppression and elitism, thus defeating the purpose of no control. 2) There would be no self-funding for large expensive items, and rather the design and building of these things would be co-operative plans between people who want to work on them, as there would probably be no currency. 3) Your friend is an ignorant fool, who thinks that anarchism is the "it" thing to do, whilst not understanding any of it's values of consequences. If you're going to fully embrace an ideology, you should know how the hell the one you are embracing works. Friend-0 OP-1
Kindly sit him down and tell him about other possibilities. Then get the government to kill him when he is weak
Don't try to convince him he's an idiot, because then you look like an asshole. Convince him he's [B]wrong[/B].
Tell him, "Anarchy won't work because in a few days people will organize a goverment"
Instead of calling him stupid and telling me to solve it with physical violence, how about some logical reasons to why he is right or wrong?
lolbertarian.
[QUOTE=Master117;19406212]Instead of calling him stupid and telling me to solve it with physical violence, how about some logical reasons to why he is right or wrong?[/QUOTE] rape him
[QUOTE=Kyle902;19406208]Tell him, "Anarchy won't work because in a few days people will organize a goverment"[/QUOTE] Tried that. He's strongly convinced that for whatever reason, it won't happen.
Kick him in the dick.
[QUOTE=Master117;19406240]Tried that. He's strongly convinced that for whatever reason, it won't happen.[/QUOTE] Explain to him that you could never get a large number of people to willingly lower themselves to the same level because humanity doesn't work like that. If that doesn't work just sigh, press your palm to your face, and ignore him.
offer him a bj then bite it off.
Explain to him that anarchy isn't a type of government, it's a violent transition between governments.
Show him this thread and make him make an account. We'll all deal with him together.
OP is capitalist scum. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Didn't read thread before replying" - TH89))[/highlight]
He's a real life troll, But really, tell him a period of anarchy usually doesn't last for long and usually only comes after total collapse until a government is formed. example spain pre WW2. If he mentions somolia tell him to move there. [editline]07:11PM[/editline] ninja'd
Punch him in the dick. When he complains, scream "[i]ANARCHY IN THE U.K., BABY!!! WOOOO!!![/i]"
[QUOTE=Master117;19406240]Tried that. He's strongly convinced that for whatever reason, it won't happen.[/QUOTE] Tell him this "No government equals no police, no police equals anarchy, anarchy means a bunch of wiggers kick your door down and shoot you in the face."
[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19406344]Punch him in the dick. When he complains, scream "ANARCHY IN THE U.K. BABY!!! WOOOO!!!"[/QUOTE] steal his shit and ask what he would do in a anarchist society if you were a warlord bent on taking over the area.
Just openly mock him about it for a few months, every day. He'll get the point.
[QUOTE=Luke510;19406338]He's a real life troll, But really, tell him a period of anarchy usually doesn't last for long and usually only comes after total collapse until a government is formed. example spain pre WW2. If he mentions [B]somolia[/B] tell him to move there. [editline]07:11PM[/editline] ninja'd[/QUOTE] Is under a government now
[QUOTE=Kyle902;19406362]Tell him this "No government equals no police, no police equals anarchy, anarchy means a bunch of wiggers kick your door down and shoot you in the face."[/QUOTE] Apparently in this new society, you pay a service fee for your police protection, along with other emergency services.
anarchism doesn't work, but our current system doesn't really work that well either.
[QUOTE=Master117;19406446]Apparently in this new society, you pay a service fee for your police protection, along with other emergency services.[/QUOTE] So, like, taxes?
[QUOTE=Strider_07;19406423]Is under a government now[/QUOTE] a very weak government.
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