Trump berates London mayor over response to terror attacks
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[url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/trump-berates-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-terror-attacks[/url]
[quote]Donald Trump has criticised the mayor of London, hours after seven people were killed and 48 injured in a terror attack in the centre of the city.
“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack,” the president wrote on his personal Twitter account, “and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’”
In response, a spokesman for Sadiq Khan said the mayor had “more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks”.
Khan did not use the phrase “no reason to be alarmed” in a statement overnight or when he spoke in a television interview earlier on Sunday. He did say it in March after an attack at Westminster Bridge in which five people were killed.[/quote]
[url=https://www.voanews.com/a/merkel-world-leader-react-to-london-bridge-attack/3886151.html]Summary of other international responses[/url]. Chancellor of Germany:
[quote]“Today, we are united beyond all borders in horror and sorrow, but also in determination,” she said.
She added “... in the fight against every form of terrorism, we stand firmly and with determination at Britain’s side.”[/quote]
President of France:
[quote]French President Emmanuel Macron said French citizens were among those wounded in Saturday’s “abominable and cowardly” attack and France will continue fighting “terrorism with all our strength alongside Britain and all other countries concerned.”[/quote]
President of the United States:
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Law of Trump: Every time he opens his mouth he puts both of his great feet inside it
Way to jump to the wrong conclusion you orange shit
[quote]Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck![/quote]
Wow, such perception. Truly world class analytical skills.
Why does he still have access to Twitter after this long? The guy is an embarrassment of a human being, not just a president.
[quote]Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck![/quote]
Yes. We're not discussing about a thing because the perpetrators didn't use said thing. Masterful rhetoric at work here, y'all!
He also retweeted fucking Drudge Report right after the attack
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The UK government really owes it to Britain to speak up publicly against this, it's not acceptable for the US President to use a terrorist attack against our country to get back at the Mayor of London for their [url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/10/sadiq-khan-i-dont-want-ignorant-donald-trump-to-make-me-an-exception]previous spat[/url] over his racist travel ban by spreading a lie about him. I don't want to see Theresa May privately telling Trump she is 'disappointed', they need to take the strong and stable step of saying publicly that this is unacceptable behaviour.
Not even the slightest hint of empathy. He just rants and tries justifying his racist piece of shit travel ban. Fuck off you orange cunt.
I've never despised someone more in my life than the orange shit stain.
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Yes. Because they didn't have access to guns. Thank God for that. Eyewitness reports state that people in the bars they assaulted managed to fight them off by attacking them with stools, throwing bottles and furniture at them. This was a coordinated assault from a group of armed extremists, and "only" seven people have died, because their victims banded together and forced a retreat. That's remarkable, and it could not have happened if the attackers had come in with automatic weapons instead of knives.
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Yes. Because they didn't have access to guns. Thank God for that.[/QUOTE]
This tweet is like handing his supporters as babes to the wolves it's so anti-him.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52311637][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871331574649901056[/media]
Yes. Because they didn't have access to guns. Thank God for that. Eyewitness reports state that people in the bars they assaulted managed to fight them off by attacking them with stools, throwing bottles and furniture at them. This was a coordinated assault from a group of armed extremists, and "only" seven people have died, because their victims banded together and forced a retreat. That's remarkable, and it could not have happened if the attackers had come in with automatic weapons instead of knives.[/QUOTE]
I have a hard time telling whether that tweet is supposed to be pro- or anti-gun control
This is so goddamn insulting to the victims and everyone else involved in this attack. The British gov should condemn every word he says and tell him to shut the fuck up.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52311570][url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/trump-berates-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-terror-attacks[/url]
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so britain's draconian gun laws actually work?
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Yes. Because they didn't have access to guns. Thank God for that. Eyewitness reports state that people in the bars they assaulted managed to fight them off by attacking them with stools, throwing bottles and furniture at them. This was a coordinated assault from a group of armed extremists, and "only" seven people have died, because their victims banded together and forced a retreat. That's remarkable, and it could not have happened if the attackers had come in with automatic weapons instead of knives.[/QUOTE]
It's really [I]awesome[/I] that they had to result to the use bar stools to defend their lives lmfao
[I]fuck that[/I]
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[QUOTE=Sableye;52311696]so britain's draconian gun laws actually work?[/QUOTE]
Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.
[QUOTE=X12321;52311720]Also proves they don't need guns to kill you[/QUOTE]
People have died from a single punch too, what's your point? Guns make it extremely easy, without guns, it's harder for them.
"Only" seven people died. What an utter moron.
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[QUOTE=X12321;52311720]It's really [I]awesome[/I] that they had to result to the use bar stools to defend their lives lmfao
[I]fuck that[/I]
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Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.[/QUOTE]
You have to be pretty dense to not see how the damage those people committed wouldn't be exponentially worse with guns in hand.
You really think civilians armed in a situation where no one really has a fucking clue what's going on in the heat of the moment would lessen the death toll?
[QUOTE=darkshield;52311732]"Only" seven people died. Moron.[/QUOTE]
It could've been 55 dead if they had guns.
Are we really going to argue about spreading American gun law into the UK and comparing cars to guns again, jesus christ
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Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.[/QUOTE]
The death count would have been much higher with guns. Also the fact they could even fight back with bar stools is a GOOD thing, they would simply be dead if people walked in with fucking guns.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52311696]so britain's draconian gun laws actually work?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
And now is not the time to massage your country's gun boner, have some respect.
[QUOTE=darkshield;52311732]"Only" seven people died. What an utter moron.
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wait what? other than trump, who is this flaming?
[QUOTE=X12321;52311720]Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.[/QUOTE]
Clearly, the solution is to arm every English citizen with an automatic firearm with more than 30 rounds in the magazine.
That will definitely solve all their problems as showcased in the United States of America.
[i]fuck that.[/i]
Any imbecile willing to politicize this is a sociopath.
[QUOTE=X12321;52311720]It's really [I]awesome[/I] that they had to result to the use bar stools to defend their lives lmfao
[I]fuck that[/I]
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Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they were able to use common objects to save their lives, [I]because their attackers didn't have firearms.[/i] If those three men had come in with assault rifles, they could have potentially shot down dozens of people before anybody knew what was happening. Self defense would have been almost impossible. Instead, they were able to rally together and force their attackers to flee before they could take more lives. Furthermore, not only is the overall number of people victimized by these monsters comparatively low to what could have been, so is the lethality rate. Of the people who were asssaulted by the attackers, 88% have so far survived the injuries -- not including the countless people who were treated on site for more minor wounds.
As it stands, we had a planned and coordinated assault from three armed extremists, and their ability to kill people was severely hampered because they were armed with knives instead of guns. For three people acting in a coordinated assault in a densely populated city during a time of heavy civilian presence to "only" kill seven people is really quite telling. It could have been [I]so[/I] much worse if they armed for war.
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[QUOTE=portalcrazy;52311753]wait what? other than trump, who is this flaming?[/QUOTE]
Not giving any additional reminders: do not discuss moderation in this thread. He can make an RC thread to appeal if he wishes.
[QUOTE=X12321;52311720]It's really [I]awesome[/I] that they had to result to the use bar stools to defend their lives lmfao
[I]fuck that[/I]
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Also proves they don't need guns to kill you, why go through the trouble of smuggling in guns (france) to commit terror when they can just get in a vehicle and run over masses of unarmed defenseless civilians? What a joke.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how many times you hit your head as a child to be THIS fucking stupid about something.
If not guns - throw a bottle at the fucker and wow they fall back, just like what happened here.
If guns - they dont even have to run in, just shoot em from 50 meters away, more deaths, more mayhem.
Those "lmfao they used bar stools to defend their lives" dudes are 100000000 times better people in literally every sense than you if you're spouting retarded bullshit like this.
Yeah, no shit they don't need guns to kill you, but the reason why this attack had 7 deaths not 130 like the paris attacks is because the guys in the paris attacks USED GUNS.
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I saw Trump's barrage of shit posts on Twitter today, they're not the kind of thing you'd expect from an American president but that's to be expected by now. Frankly, I'm disgusted. I do not want to come into twitter and see the president of the USA being a dick about a terror attack on the capital city of the country I live in. A city and a country that I love, by the way, which is saying a lot because patriotism is a concept I'm ambivalent at best about.
Honestly, at this point I'm not above suggesting you guys just lock your commander in cunt in a concrete windowless room with no wifi whenever terror attacks happen.
It's been a real terrible time for the nation in terms of terror, and I'm beginning to tire of how a lot of people are reacting about it. America and their media has been absolutely horrific, we've seen the sun tried to blame Corbyn, and Theresa May was on TV this morning using it as an excuse to push her bloody internet policy. There's been so much love and respect out there, and I don't want to see it all overshadowed by the bad.
Sorry for being incoherent and stupid, this is a tough and emotional subject.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52311696]so britain's draconian gun laws actually work?[/QUOTE]
This is a case where civilian casualties would've been much higher had the attackers been equipped with guns, yes. Indiscriminate attacks on the public in general are much harder to predict and defend against and odds are even in the US nobody in the crowd would've been armed let alone capable of using their concealed carry pistol to overcome the attacker if they had one.
I am notoriously pro-gun and even I'm not dumb enough to think throwing guns into the mix here would've done anything but make it way worse. Anyone claiming otherwise is a simpleton.
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It's important to remember here that afaik it's way WAY more likely for you to slip in your shower and die, than die by terrorist attack. Why aren't we wearing helmets in showers?
And also that it is the terrorists' objective to.. well, terrorize. They want people to get alarmed. Stop playing into their hands.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;52311799]It's important to remember here that afaik it's way WAY more likely for you to slip in your shower and die, than die by terrorist attack. Why aren't we wearing helmets in showers?
And also that it is the terrorists' objective to.. well, terrorize. They want people to get alarmed. Stop playing into their hands.[/QUOTE]
Khan used the words "no reason to be alarmed" in a statement regarding how we'll be seeing increased police presence on London's streets. It had nothing to do with terror attacks which obviously are kind of alarming. He's just saying that police presence isn't an indication of knowledge of a coming attack for anything.
I wish we had an adult in office who had empathy for people instead of someone greedy for attention.
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I am notoriously pro-gun and even I'm not dumb enough to think throwing guns into the mix here would've done anything but make it way worse. Anyone claiming otherwise is a simpleton.[/QUOTE]
I am a pro-gun Democrat, it just pains me to see people running their mouths about how guns are the be-all, end-all solution to every single problem for their simple minds. It makes the rest of the responsible gun owners look bad
Life isn't a fucking Clint Eastwood movie where owning a gun is for the fulfillment of your murder fantasy, Jesus Christ.
Critical thinking eludes these type of people so I'm not surprised they want an easy method for a complicated problem.
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