British PM David Cameron 'faces leaks embarrassment' (WikiLeaks)
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[quote]The US administration's unflattering assessment of David Cameron is set to be made public with the release of thousands of leaked State Department files by the WikiLeaks whistleblowers website.
Simon Hoggart, a journalist on The Guardian - one of the newspapers that has been working with WikiLeaks on the release of the material - said that the publication would be an "embarrassment" for the Prime Minister.
He confirmed that the paper would be releasing extensive details of the files on Monday.
"It is going to give the candid American views of world leaders and indeed the reverse too," he told BBC1's The Andrew Marr Show.
"There is going to be some embarrassment certainly for Gordon Brown but even more so for David Cameron who was not very highly regarded by the Obama administration or by the US ambassador here."
The US administration has warned that the release of the files would put "countless" lives at risk, threaten global counter-terrorism operations and jeopardise America's relations with its allies.
The State Department's senior lawyer Harold Koh has written to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, warning that the publication could do massive harm to America's standing by exposing secret military operations.
Mr Koh sent the message in response to a letter from Mr Assange and his lawyer in which they asked about the safety of people who might be named in the files. Mr Koh said that the US would not co-operate or negotiate with WikiLeaks.[/quote]
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[url=http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/11/468877.html]Wikileaks: UK issues DA-Notice as US briefs allies on fresh leak[/url]
[quote][I]Governments, organisations and media across the world have been put on alert as whistleblowing site Wikileaks looks set to release millions of diplomantic communications. Emily Butselaar reports
As Wikileaks prepares to expose [1] a huge cache of classified diplomatic communications, the US has warned allies that new revelations may lead to public embarrassment. The cables are expected to expose sensitive foreign policy issues including corruption allegations against foreign governments and leaders, and clandestine US support for terrorism. The leak is expected to contain seven times more data than the infamous Iraq War Diaries released earlier this year. [/I]
In what appears to be a harm minimisation strategy the US government has embarked on an impressive briefing campaign, reaching out to allies across the world.
On Wednesday, State Department Spokesman Philip Crowley told AFP that the US was “gearing up for the worst-case scenario, that leaked cables will touch on a wide range of issues and countries” Yesterday in an email briefing Cowley admitted the State Department was practicing due diligence and “assessing the possible impact on our on-going diplomatic activity and notifying both Congress and other governments what may occur”.
The heart of this issue is the right of governments to keep secrets from their citizens. It has been widely acknowledged that the first two document dumps demonstrated overclassification, while the anodyne nature of many of the “secret” documents demonstrates the over-classification of sensitive material. Secrecy rather than transparency is the norm as the US — like most governments — attempts to keep any documents related to defence and diplomacy under wraps. But surely we are willing to acknowledge that our government has to keep secrets when it comes to foreign policy.
In its efforts to “manage” the release and ensure its views are represented in the ensuing debate, the US has been vocal[2]. In an email the Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs to the Senate and House Armed Services Committee Elizabeth King said: “State Department cables by their nature contain everyday analysis and candid assessments that any government engages in as part of effective foreign relations…. The publication of this classified information by WikiLeaks is an irresponsible attempt to wreak havoc … It potentially jeopardizes lives.”
And the US ambassador to Baghdad told reporters at an embassy briefing that “WikiLeaks are an absolutely awful impediment to my business, which is to be able to have discussions in confidence with people. I do not understand the motivation for releasing these documents. “They will not help, they will simply hurt our ability to do our work here.”
As news breaks that the UK government has issued a DA notice, effectively asking to be briefed by newspaper editors before any new revelations are published it worth noting that there is no obligation on media to comply. DA-notices point to a set of guidelines, agreed by the government departments and the media. In this case newspaper editors would speak to Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee[3] prior to publication.
An interesting element to this story comes with the confirmation that US has also been briefing NGOs, alerting them to programmes that may be compromised in this new document dump.[/quote]
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This is going to be extra juicy.
This is going to be damaging to US-UK relations if it is as bad as they say
[quote]The US administration has warned that the release of the files would put "countless" lives at risk,[/quote]
Just like last time and the time before, oh wait.
[QUOTE=Arsonist;26356052]This is going to be damaging to US-UK relations if it is as bad as they say[/QUOTE]
Good.
Dave will kick their ass. He's a Bond villain irl.
Nice, not only putting most countries at risk, also destroying many lives.
I'm all for freedom of the press and leaked documents, but how come the United States bought this leak out or tried to stop the domain? Or have they and I hadn't seen it.
why do you think David is willing to co-operate more with the french than USA?
I'm sure he knows what they think of him
How is this going to be embarrassing? It's not a secret that half of the UK hates the Conservatives, so I doubt the US can say anything that's really going to top our hatred.
It's internationally embarrassing seeing as though we're meant to be very close.
Does it amuse anyone else that the world governments are on their knees because of something with a silly name like "Wikileaks"?
[QUOTE=blacksam;26356132]I'm all for freedom of the press and leaked documents, but how come the United States bought this leak out or tried to stop the domain? Or have they and I hadn't seen it.[/QUOTE]
With the media attention on wikileaks, do you seriously think they could get away with that? The American governments image would be totally destroyed the world over, probably doing more damage than letting them leak the documents.
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[QUOTE=dale_uk_scout;26356076]Nice, not only putting most countries at risk, also destroying many lives.[/QUOTE]
Nobody has died. Nobody will die. This section of the documents will simply state that 'Cameron is a bit of a faggot'. (Which he is). The governments need to give the public more transparency. If the US released these documents as public domain nobody would be giving a shit. Bitter pills need to be swallowed, and they're not learning.
Good god, just release the information already.
I've heard enough about how much it will effect the world.
Let the bugger do it's damage.
Well, the Tories are kind of dicks. There's nothing Obama and his government could say which isn't what everybody in the UK who wasn't born into money has been saying since Dave wormed his way to Prime Minister.
Also amusing is that they're telling people what's inside, so even if they somehow manage to stop the leak (Hahaha) the damage is already somewhat done.
Who knows maybe it'll get the tories to change there ways.
ever the optimist :/
lol david cameron
Fat bastard.
Now I extra can't wait. omg.
Good, i hate that tory cunt.
Jokes aside, this story makes the politicians involved sound like a bunch of kids passing notes in school. They're worried that one of the notes is gonna be seen by one of the kids they make fun of when they're not around.
Well David Cameron is a wanker so, no problems.
[QUOTE=Jobby;26357206]Jokes aside, this story makes the politicians involved sound like a bunch of kids passing notes in school. They're worried that one of the notes is gonna be seen by one of the kids they make fun of when they're not around.[/QUOTE]
It's funny you say that. Because that's really [b] what it is. [/b]
[QUOTE=Jobby;26357206]Jokes aside, this story makes the politicians involved sound like a bunch of kids passing notes in school. They're worried that one of the notes is gonna be seen by one of the kids they make fun of when they're not around.[/QUOTE]
That's all it is, by the sounds of it US embassies passed many messages around which they thought would stay secret for ever.
I wonder why they are taking so long with the release, perhaps they are actually censoring anything really risky out of it.
I didn't even read this thread, I just voted dumb 'cause its Cameron
Leave me alone, I'm just efficient with my time is all :<
In all seriousness, I can't wait for the files to get released, they've got me really interested as to what the files contain .
[QUOTE=Jsm;26358690]I wonder why they are taking so long with the release, perhaps they are actually censoring anything really risky out of it.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully not as that would defeat the whole purpose of what they're doing. Whatever the reason for the delay, it's proving to be worthwhile since more and more publicity is being generated daily by the US government wetting themselves over this.
[QUOTE=dale_uk_scout;26356076]Nice, not only putting most countries at risk, also destroying many lives.[/QUOTE]
that's what they want you to think
[QUOTE=MasterG;26359106]Well fuck 'em. After what Cameron and Clegg did to the fucking tuition fees they deserve a bit of ridicule.[/QUOTE]
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"hey everyone if this website releases this info then it will make the us look bad, and might put some people in danger"
"huh that's pretty unnerving. I sort of want to see what's in them but then again I'm worried this might get someone killed"
"it'll make david cameron look bad"
"FUCKING RELEASE IT"
I don't think (and hope they don't) what they are planning to release can put anyone at risk (DIRECTLY). The Iraq / Afghan war diaries could possibly have done that. It might put people at risk when someone gets pissed and attacks the US over something said in it, but I doubt US embassies send messages that might put lives at risk to be honest.
I hope there is a file on Stephen Harper.
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