• Noah's Ark May have been circular, according to British archeologist
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[quote]LONDON (Jan. 8) – Ask any Christian, Jew or Muslim to draw you a picture of Noah's ark and you'll probably get a sketch of a regular wooden boat being boarded by a procession of animals – two by two, of course. But that's all wrong. According to new evidence, the ark wasn't a pointy-prowed vessel, but a giant round raft. This ship shape discovery was made by Irving Finkel, an expert in ancient Mesopotamia (now Iraq) at London's British Museum. While translating a 3,700-year-old clay tablet inscribed with Babylonian cuneiform script – passed to the museum by the son of a British Air Force man, who picked it up while serving in the Middle East during World War II – he spotted an "extremely exciting" reference to the ark's "circular design." This was a revelation, says Finkel, not only because he'd never thought of the ark as round, but because this was the first-ever ancient description of the ark's shape. Neither the Bible nor other Babylonian documents featuring the great flood offered any guidance of that sort. "When you see paintings of Noah's ark, it always has a prow and a stern, and it's an ocean-going vessel that could get you from A to B," says Finkel. "But the poet who wrote this version conceived the ark as a giant coracle, which have steep sides and a rounded bottom." These highly stable boats, he notes, were used to float goods and animals from one side of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers to the other, and are still sometimes used in Iraq today. "I think when the rains came and the waters covered the earth, the idea was that this boat would keep everybody safe," he says. "They'd bob around on top of the water and then when the waters went down, everyone could get out safely. It didn't have to go anywhere. It just had to be unsinkable." The hero of the newly translated tablet – which is slightly bigger than a cell phone, and is inscribed with 60 lines of cuneiform text – isn't Noah, but a possible historical predecessor named Atram-Hasi. It begins with a mischievous Babylonian god named Enki telling the wise, kind and holy Atram-Hasi how to escape a great deluge planned by his rival deities. (They were apparently fed up with noisy humans, who interfered with their sleep.) "Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall!" says Enki. "Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions and save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same." Like an ancient DIY guru, Enki gives his chosen man precise instructions: He's told to use plaited palm fiber, waterproofed with bitumen, for the hull, and advised on how he should build cabins for the people and wild animals. The episode ends with Atram-Hasis commanding an unfortunate boat builder, who will be left to die on land, to seal the door once everyone is safely inside: "When I shall have gone into the boat, caulk the frame of the door." The story may only be a work of fiction, built upon folk memories of great river floods long past, but it demonstrates the exceptional storytelling skills of the Babylonians. Finkel believes the tale deliberately ends on a cliffhanger – "You can almost imagine the theme music coming in as the door is closed," he says – to leave the audience craving the next episode, which would have continued Atram-Hasis' incredible odyssey. And he believes that ancient Jews living in exile in Babylon at this time would also have been wowed by the tale. So much, in fact, that they may have transformed it into their own epic story: Noah and the ark.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.sphere.com/article/noahs-ark-was-a-circular-raft-ancient-tablet-reveals/19309746?icid=main|aim|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sphere.com%2Farticle%2Fnoahs-ark-was-a-circular-raft-ancient-tablet-reveals%2F19309746[/url] In other news, the Vatican has ordered that the pages in the Bible on Noah's story be ripped out. An order form for the updated pages can be found at your nearby church.
Hmm intresting. But I'm still going by the earliest translation, not by new evidence.
It may also have been non-existent.
Does it also say the size of the Millennium Falcon in there? I mean, since we're talking about fictional ships and all.
[QUOTE=Anders;19562847]Does it also say the size of the Millennium Falcon in there? I mean, since we're talking about fictional ships and all.[/QUOTE] It was round too all fictional ships are round
[QUOTE=Anders;19562847]Does it also say the size of the Millenium Falcon in there? I mean, since we're talking about fictional ships and all.[/QUOTE] I want to know the rim size on Apollo's chariot.
Oh God (see I spelt "God" like a proper noun lololol) I knew people were going to come in here and try to start something like this.
This is why religion and science [b]DO NOT[/b] go together. I mean, you figure an archaeologist would be out gathering information that could somehow be valuable right? It's comparable to trying to shove your penis into the tab of a soda can.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19562813]It may also have been non-existent.[/QUOTE] That's also possible.
Maybe it was a UFO.
Oh you silly christian, existing on a world completely seperate from reality.
Why are we focusing on trying to find out if an Ark was different? We should be focusing on something more important than that religious shit.
There is no such thing as a Ark bigger than every modern ship just to hold animals, all while being built by a 200 year old man.
ITT kids bashing Christianity to look cool.
[QUOTE=KigJow;19563113]ITT kids bashing Christianity to look cool.[/QUOTE] ITT Christians getting mad because they can't have their stories be taken seriously, especially in a journalism type environment.
Anyone who truely believes noah's ark happened is a stupid fuck.
besides, nothing wooden could survive this wave [media][media]http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/2012.jpg[/media][/media] Wtf? the tags are down
[QUOTE=wuzzimu;19562875]I want to know the rim size on Apollo's chariot.[/QUOTE] I wonder what Thor's hammer was made out of
ITT people blindly defend whatever they already believe in and don't get anybody anywhere. That means you too atheists. Being agnostic sucks.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19563545]I wonder what Thor's hammer was made out of[/QUOTE] Bet it was round too.
The article does say it was probably a tale that the jews confused as historical fact.
[quote]LONDON (Jan. 8) – Ask any Christian, Jew or Muslim to draw you a picture of Noah's ark and you'll probably get a sketch of a regular wooden boat being boarded by a procession of animals – two by two, of course. [B]But that's all wrong.[/B][/quote] That's all that needed to be said.
oh boy, we've determined that a boat in a FANTASY STORY INTENDED TO TEACH A LESSON was shaped differently than we previously thought...
[QUOTE=mbutler2;19562798]Hmm intresting. But I'm still going by the earliest translation, not by new evidence.[/QUOTE] Ark aside, your way of thinking is extremely ignorant. You should change your beliefs based on new evidence, not ignore evidence based on your original belief.
I'm pretty sure our scientists have more pressing matters at hand.
[QUOTE=dryer-lint;19563648]ITT people blindly defend whatever they already believe in and don't get anybody anywhere. That means you too atheists.[/QUOTE] .
Hey Christians in the thread, justify to me how anything in the bible could possibly exist. Go on, I want to see you do it. [editline]09:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=dryer-lint;19563648]ITT people blindly defend whatever they already believe in and don't get anybody anywhere. That means you too atheists.[/QUOTE] Are you slow?
More evidence that Christianity is just a bunch of mashed up ideas stolen from other religions.
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;19564131]Hey Christians in the thread, justify to me how anything in the bible could possibly exist. Go on, I want to see you do it. [/quote] probably a bad source but: [url]http://www.carm.org/christianity/bible/non-biblical-accounts-new-testament-events-andor-people[/url]
It's sort of sad that people still feel the need to validate their faiths. Even though the whole point of faith is believing in something that does not require validation. Therefore: People like this have no faith. They are atheists. And we welcome them.
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