Queensland is dying - barely anyone coming here anymore, government attempting to "woo" people
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[QUOTE]No one wants to live in Queensland anymore.So the Palaszczuk Government plans on getting aggressive in its attempts to woo people - and their business - back to the sunshine state.
Research commissioned for News Corp found Queensland was in danger of seeing more people leave the state than enter it for the first time since 1947, with the downward trend in migration
showing just 7000 people moved to Queensland in the year to September.
Treasurer Curtis Pitt was sanguine about the news, saying "there had been forecasts for some time" suggesting the Queensland population growth had slowed.
Former premier Campbell Newman had also sought to address the slowdown through his Queensland Plan, which included exploring possible incentives to attract more people to the state's regions.
But it's the first time the state has been forecast to be on track for negative population growth.
Mr Pitt said the government was working on pushing the state's advantages.
"Clearly Queensland has had many years of positive interstate migration and also migration from overseas as well," he said.
"We have had a decline in that space and what we will be doing is making sure that everyone around this country knows that Queensland is open for business, is the place to do business. We have a
very competitive tax regime, we have very affordable office accommodation particularly here in Brisbane.
"Our goal is to work hard and be aggressive in trying to attract business from interstate.
"We have already seen some early successes there with Southern Oil.
"We are keen to see more of those opportunities come to fruition. It's very important that we get companies coming to Queensland.
"Jobs growth is going to be a very important part of anyone's decision to come to Queensland. Right now we are going very well with more than 71,000 jobs created - plus as you look around, we've
got the best part of the world.
"We think we've got great attractions as well as all the economic advantages as well."
Mr Pitt said he had already warned his interstate colleagues Queensland planned to go on the prowl.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/government-tries-to-woo-people-back-to-queensland-20160413-go53aq.html[/url]
I've lived in Queensland my whole life and it is really sad. I don't mind this state but there's no opportunity for me here, the art scene here is scarce, there's barely any hope if you're a film student like me. You're either working for the news and that's it, that is why i left my previous uni
So my only hope when i finish this course is to go to Melbourne or go overseas, it is fucking sad but they did this to themselves, both labor and LNP. Brisbane is beautiful but it has nothing going
The Sunshine State? So it's like the Florida of Australia? That's interesting.
Sorry to hear there isn't much going on there. Is it going to become a ghost town in a couple decades now?
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;50122202]The Sunshine State? So it's like the Florida of Australia? That's interesting.[/QUOTE]
The coast here is beautiful, sunshine coast, gold coast, rocky, up north, stunning. I'd recommend coming here to see our beaches, you won't regret it
But that's it, we're literally a tourist state and we do a poor job at it. Public transport is fucking bollocks, trains suck, no city trains up north (only tilt trains), anywhere west is just remote communities and police have more powers than they should
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122228]The coast here is beautiful, sunshine coast, gold coast, rocky, up north, stunning. I'd recommend coming here to see our beaches, you won't regret it
But that's it, we're literally a tourist state and we do a poor job at it. Public transport is fucking bollocks, trains suck, no city trains up north (only tilt trains), anywhere west is just remote communities and police have more powers than they should[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. I'm broke, so I can't really afford to go anywhere. Sorry.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122195]I've lived in Queensland my whole life and it is really sad. I don't mind this state but there's no opportunity for me here, the art scene here is scarce, there's barely any hope if you're a film student like me.[/QUOTE]
Australia as a whole has a problem with brain drain. They really need initiatives to keep technical and technical-artistic skills here
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;50122247]Australia as a whole has a problem with brain drain. They really need initiatives to keep technical and technical-artistic skills here[/QUOTE]
they better act quick or else im a plane to somewhere to find work and it'll be not only me but just about all newly grads who know they will have to keep working shit petty jobs just to make it day to day
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at least Melbourne has a thriving scene, so does Sydney in a sense but it is not enough
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122261]they better act quick or else im a plane to somewhere to find work and it'll be not only me but just about all newly grads who know they will have to keep working shit petty jobs just to make it day to day
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at least Melbourne has a thriving scene, so does Sydney in a sense but it is not enough[/QUOTE]
Sydney's scene is slowly dying though. It's such a shame - lockout laws and a bunch of other laws that favour developers are turning sydney into a corporate haven rather than a cultural one.
I've been here the last 3 years the difference is just sad. Carriageworks used to be this amazing art gallery and now they're getting government funding and becoming a corporate event host more than they are an art gallery. And that's replicated in a lot of places across Sydney. Powerhouse museum is getting moved to Parramatta for some reason. Bars, pubs and shops are closing left right and centre and being replaced almost invariably by apartments - yet rent prices and house prices don't decrease as a result. The state government has a vision for the city and that is for it to be a city that favours corporate lifestyle with little room for anything else and it's a goddamn shame.
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Honestly out of the 3 capitals Melbourne is going from strength to strength and I wish I could move there sometimes
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;50122202]The Sunshine State? So it's like the Florida of Australia? That's interesting.
Sorry to hear there isn't much going on there. Is it going to become a ghost town in a couple decades now?[/QUOTE]
Don't believe the lies. 'The Sunshine State'? It's always cloudy or raining. It's more like the UK of the Southern Hemisphere.
Shame about that death of the Australian game industry I heard about. Is it true at all?
[QUOTE=sb27;50122298]Don't believe the lies. 'The Sunshine State'? It's always cloudy or raining. It's more like the UK of the Southern Hemisphere.[/QUOTE]
Lol no it isn't like the UK of the Southern Hemisphere what are you on about
What's the Real Estate like there? Is it priced outside of what someone who is not Chinese could afford?
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;50122305]Shame about that death of the Australian game industry I heard about. Is it true at all?[/QUOTE]
yep, game scene is virtually dead except for a few start ups who got in early in the mobile phone gaming boom. Everyone is closing up shop and most game devs/coders are going to America or England to find somewhere.
Lack of government funding, lack of really any education, lack of really any regulations (read what happened at Bondi), classification code (R18 came too late) and really the strength of the aussie dollar is to blame
Unless you're a tradie, you don't have a lot of options
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[QUOTE=pentium;50122317]What's the Real Estate like there? Is it priced outside of what someone who is not Chinese could afford?[/QUOTE]
Sydney house prices have blown the fuck out, a house near me in Ipswich is selling for [B]$500,000[/B], Inner city Brisbane prices will hike now with lockout laws in place, Melbourne is expensive
With everyone pushing out into the suburbs or close cities (like Ipswich, Logan), everywhere is going up, if you're a first home buyer you've got no hope
I'll live there!
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But that's it, we're literally a tourist state and we do a poor job at it. Public transport is fucking bollocks, trains suck, no city trains up north (only tilt trains), anywhere west is just remote communities and police have more powers than they should[/QUOTE]
Sounds a lot like Montgomery
I really hope Australia fixes it self in the programming industry, I don't particularly want to move out to another country.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;50122247]Australia as a whole has a problem with brain drain. They really need initiatives to keep technical and technical-artistic skills here[/QUOTE]
It certainly doesn't help they've gotten the reputation of being as bad as American conservatives as far as monitizing pure research, their move to cut all climate research because it can't be profitable is exactly the kind of shit that discourages people from staying. The backbone of America's technical might is from having academics that can leverage resources a small company may not have, like specialised equipment, or just plain faculty that can do curious experiments without having to wonder if they will make money or not
Many important discoveries have started from "what happens if I dunk this in acid?"
[QUOTE=sb27;50122298]Don't believe the lies. 'The Sunshine State'? It's always cloudy or raining. It's more like the UK of the Southern Hemisphere.[/QUOTE]
Are you referring to Cairns? I've lived in Queensland all my life and it's almost always sunny.
There's plenty opportunity in Brisbane, a lack of is not the driving force of the city's slumping growth. Mismanagement of roads and transport is probably the main one. Congestion of peak hour lasts nearly all day.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122319]yep, game scene is virtually dead except for a few start ups who got in early in the mobile phone gaming boom. Everyone is closing up shop and most game devs/coders are going to America or England to find somewhere.
Lack of government funding, lack of really any education, lack of really any regulations (read what happened at Bondi), classification code (R18 came too late) and really the strength of the aussie dollar is to blame
Unless you're a tradie, you don't have a lot of options
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Sydney house prices have blown the fuck out, a house near me in Ipswich is selling for [B]$500,000[/B], Inner city Brisbane prices will hike now with lockout laws in place, Melbourne is expensive
With everyone pushing out into the suburbs or close cities (like Ipswich, Logan), everywhere is going up, if you're a first home buyer you've got no hope[/QUOTE]
Even as a first home buyer, down in Melbourne your best option is moving so far out west that the trains barely run, and even then with the new laws about overseas buyers only allowed to buy new properties, it's hiked the prices even higher.
If you want any IT graduate job, they're all in Sydney (trust me, I've spent the last 2 months having a look), and the cost of living there is a damn bit higher than Melbourne's, and we are already pretty steep.
Even the tradies are hitting it hard with work slowing and low amounts of apprenticeships. Down here TAFE has been funding cut so far that it's shutting down campuses.
Queensland is a beautiful area, but no one can afford to travel with the price of everything going up and the lack of jobs both up north and down south. Plenty of my friends have been hit by the job drought and its killing tourism all over.
I don't think tourists want to go to Queensland because Sydney and Melbourne are much better alternatives. It's really becoming a competition of which city has the best culture
Speaking of shitty Queensland public transport. I've been sat here waiting 45 minutes for a bus. It truly is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=mr apple;50122441]I don't think tourists want to go to Queensland because Sydney and Melbourne are much better alternatives. It's really becoming a competition of which city has the best culture[/QUOTE]
Queensland only has beaches going for it, Melbourne and Sydney can't really compete with that (apart from Bondi and St. Kilda but QLD has a lot of beaches that are superb)
[QUOTE=AbbaDee;50122419]Are you referring to Cairns? I've lived in Queensland all my life and it's almost always sunny.[/QUOTE]
It's sunny for like half the time. The rest of the time its overcast or raining.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50122503]Speaking of shitty Queensland public transport. I've been sat here waiting 45 minutes for a bus. It truly is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
you in roma st? i can normally get a bus from kelvin grove to there every 2 minutes but the Brisbane-Ipswich line runs every 30 minutes and its been like that for years, fucking stupid
It's more of a symptom of a national issue where we've run out of industries for workers to be in (manufacturing, mining, research etc.) and the government has utterly failed to provide any alternatives.
It just so happens that Queensland is one of the most affected. You'll hear the same for South Australia, Northern Territory, and Western Australia soon too.
[QUOTE=Exploderguy;50122395]I really hope Australia fixes it self in the programming industry, I don't particularly want to move out to another country.[/QUOTE]
Australia has a competent programming industry although nothing on the level of America or the UK - but there are plenty of jobs. Just not gaming industry jobs
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[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122509]Queensland only has beaches going for it, Melbourne and Sydney can't really compete with that (apart from Bondi and St. Kilda but QLD has a lot of beaches that are superb)[/QUOTE]
Sydney's full of beaches - Bondi, Coogee, Maroubra, Gordons Bay, Balmoral, etc, all great beaches. Funny though the further north you go the better they get. Newcastle's beaches are bloody fantastic
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Sydney house prices have blown the fuck out, a house near me in Ipswich is selling for [B]$500,000[/B], Inner city Brisbane prices will hike now with lockout laws in place, Melbourne is expensive
With everyone pushing out into the suburbs or close cities (like Ipswich, Logan), everywhere is going up, if you're a first home buyer you've got no hope[/QUOTE]
I'm just curious because this sounds like something we've been fearing here for a while. All the properties are owned by the Chinese as offshore assets and investments that perpetually go up in value. Eventually you reach a point where properties are being bought but the neighborhoods are technically remaining empty which negatively affects the local economy as businesses can't remain profitable and nobody wants to visit because all the go-to places have closed. In the end you lose and the Chinese technically become the majority of the population by percentage of property ownership.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50122516]you in roma st? i can normally get a bus from kelvin grove to there every 2 minutes but the Brisbane-Ipswich line runs every 30 minutes and its been like that for years, fucking stupid[/QUOTE]
Nah, I'm in the Northern suburbs where its just as shit.
[QUOTE=pentium;50122543]I'm just curious because this sounds like something we've been fearing here for a while. All the properties are owned by the Chinese as offshore assets and investments that perpetually go up in value. Eventually you reach a point where properties are being bought but the neighborhoods are technically remaining empty which negatively affects the local economy as businesses can't remain profitable and nobody wants to visit because all the go-to places have closed. In the end you lose and the Chinese technically become the majority of the population by percentage of property ownership.[/QUOTE]
it's more rich baby boomers buying as many houses as they can and profiting off negative gearing, the Chinese is playing more of a roll in the farm where farmers are giving up and the Chinese need more land to feed their population since they're so dense and we're close
it's going to create a lot of turmoil soon, I see this country having a big depression if the government fails to act
Queensland is a police state, can't even walk around if you have a tattoo.
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