Aiming for delegates instead of the popular vote, Ron Paul "wins" Iowa, Minnesota and maybe Washingt - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The Ron Paul “delegate strategy” seems to be working. And he could very well be nominated at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in late summer. Wow. Twist. The Texas libertarian has based his entire 2012 presidential campaign on the ability to win over state delegates — rather than winning the popular vote. To do this, Paul has utilized an extensive grassroots campaign network to influence local officials, who in turn would influence the higher-up officials. [B]Until recently, this strategy had shown only limited results: the ground-level Paul delegates had not been able to immediately influence the wider state delegate situation.[/B] Now, though, caucus states like Washington, Minnesota, and Iowa — each with a complicated system of “bound” and “unbound” delegates — are nominating their delegates to the GOP national convention in Tampa. And the Paul ground game is starting to work, but with some institutional backlash. Here’s a micro-level example: In Washington over the weekend, Republicans in the 37th Legislative District gathered to vote on their delegates. The meeting saw Ron Paul supporters elect one of their own to chair the process. A Republican Party chairman, though, refused to accept the Paul-supporting chairperson, and ended the meeting, declaring that the meeting was no longer a Republican Party event, but rather a Ron Paul campaign event. The caucus finished its business outside in the sun, and elected 11 Ron Paul supporters to the state convention, which begins May 31 in Tacoma. Boom, Ron Paul’s system looks like it is working. Paul loyalists, of course, still harbor hope for getting their man nominated at the national convention in Tampa in late August.[B] In order to do that, Paul must have a majority of support from at least five state delegations. With states like North Dakota, Minnesota, Maine, and others on track, his supporters could then attempt to nominate him from the floor.[/B] [B]And it’s looking like he’ll get the states he needs to be [I]eligible[/I] for a nomination (though, by no means would he be able to beat Mitt Romney's delegate haul).[/B] Even being eligible would be a massive win for Paul, though, especially as he shops his libertarian ideology and seeks to influence conservative politics on a more philosophical level. Earlier this week in Iowa and Minnesota, Ron Paul’s covert, submarine delegate strategy paid off.[B] Iowa has 28 total delegates that it can award, and one of those delegates is the state chairman, a Ron Paul supporter. Paul also picked up 13 delegates from the state’s nomination committee, which decided yesterday to go for Ron Paul. Weeks after the Iowa race was called for Rick Santorum, Paul’s grinding delegate game has paid off, and at the very worst, he will earn half of Iowa’s delegates. He pulled off the same thing in Minnesota. The state has 40 delegates and Ron Paul has secured at least 20 of them, confirming Paul’s prediction at the time that “when the dust settles, there is a very good chance that we’ll have the maximum number of delegates coming out of Minnesota.”[/B] Ron Paul is very much on track to change the course of this GOP presidential race. [/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.policymic.com/articles/7460/ron-paul-wins-washington-on-track-to-be-nominated-at-2012-gop-convention[/url]

Wow. Twist.

Yet he won't beat Romney

[QUOTE=Valdor;35724946]Yet he won't beat Romney[/QUOTE] Not yet. But with a little luck, he has the ability of "coming within a shot" of doing so.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35724959]Not yet. But with a little luck, he has the ability of "coming within a shot" of doing so.[/QUOTE] Why, hes not a good candidate so why are you guys rooting for him just because he's the less popular one?

[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;35724981]Why, hes not a good candidate so why are you guys rooting for him just because he's the less popular one?[/QUOTE] If you've ever read any of my posts, you'll know that I'm not rooting for him "because he's the less popular one".

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35725018]If you've ever read any of my posts, you'll know that I'm not rooting for him "because he's the less popular one".[/QUOTE] You're rooting for his horrible (and i mean [B]HORRIBLE[/B]) economic and social plans.

[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;35724981]Why, hes not a good candidate so why are you guys rooting for him just because he's the less popular one?[/QUOTE] I do not agree with Emperor Scorpious, but I at least know that he has probably looked deeply into Ron Paul's campaign and has good reasons for liking him [editline]26th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=codemaster85;35725087]You're rooting for his horrible (and i mean [B]HORRIBLE[/B]) economic and social plans.[/QUOTE] There is no reason to argue about this, it will not get us anywhere. Let us instead marvel at how unexpected it is that Ron Paul is actually getting a lot of support from delegates. I congratulate him.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;35725087]You're rooting for his horrible (and i mean [B]HORRIBLE[/B]) economic and social plans.[/QUOTE] That's quite subjective. I happen to love his economic and social policies, otherwise I wouldn't have voted in the Republican Primary.

People on here take Ron Paul and demonize him a lot more than he honestly deserves. I feel that it has turned into a bandwagon and a lot of people haven't honestly done the research themselves.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;35725184]People on here take Ron Paul and demonize him a lot more than he honestly deserves. I feel that it has turned into a bandwagon and a lot of people haven't honestly done the research themselves.[/QUOTE] Ron Paul hate is almost as big of a bandwagon on facepunch as Ron Paul advocacy is on youtube.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35725235]Ron Paul hate is almost as big of a bandwagon on facepunch as Ron Paul advocacy is on youtube.[/QUOTE] Well put sir.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;35725184]People on here take Ron Paul and demonize him a lot more than he honestly deserves. I feel that it has turned into a bandwagon and a lot of people haven't honestly done the research themselves.[/QUOTE] It may not mean much coming from a supporter, but - I agree. I understand a lot of where anti-Paul people are coming from, but it feels like if you dislike something even slightly, they make it out to be the devil himself.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;35725180]That's quite subjective. I happen to love his economic and social policies, otherwise I wouldn't have voted in the Republican Primary.[/QUOTE] That's not surprising seeing as you know fuck all about politics.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35725820]That's not surprising seeing as you know fuck all about politics.[/QUOTE] Pot calling the kettle black.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35725018]If you've ever read any of my posts, you'll know that I'm not rooting for him "because he's the less popular one".[/QUOTE] That is highly debatable. [QUOTE=yawmwen;35725235]Ron Paul hate is almost as big of a bandwagon on facepunch as Ron Paul advocacy is on youtube.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, sure, it's a bandwagon. People actually support his failure of an economic policy, his wanting to go back on the disastrous gold standard, flip-flops on states right, is a homophobe who is against abortion rights, radically isolationist to the point that is just psychotic, and utterly shitty voting record. they just don't want to admit they like it. No, its' impossible to point out that Ron Paul is a crock of shit conservative who's no different than any other Republican - oh but he wants to legalise weed, so he's fucking ~perfect~ [editline]26th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35725294]It may not mean much coming from a supporter, but - I agree. I understand a lot of where anti-Paul people are coming from, but it feels like if you dislike something even slightly, they make it out to be the devil himself.[/QUOTE] You are not a Ron Paul supporter, you are a Ron Paul fanboy - just call it like it is, Scorpious. [editline]26th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;35725845]Pot calling the kettle black.[/QUOTE] Oh sick burn dude. Please, tell me again how every single last person in the UN is a child molester.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35725854]No, its' impossible to point out that Ron Paul is a crock of shit conservative who's no different than any other Republican - oh but he wants to legalise weed, so he's fucking ~perfect~[/QUOTE] You insult someone before they even say anything to you, and then you tell them they don't know anything about politics.... and then you use Republicans and Conservatives interchangeably. What?

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35725854] Oh sick burn dude. Please, tell me again how every single last person in the UN is a child molester.[/QUOTE] It's not your bedtime yet, and I'm not your fucking mommy or daddy. Maybe if you're really good they will tell you the one about how Bush was really the antichrist all along, I know that's your favorite story.

Dumbs and disagrees flying around everywhere in this thread

[QUOTE=Glitch360;35725970]Dumbs and disagrees flying around everywhere in this thread[/QUOTE] Every time Ron Paul is mentioned doing something remotely good or anyone says something good about Ron Paul: equal parts Winners and Dumbs. Can't we all just politely disagree? There is no way to reconcile the guy who believes in no Abortion and Austrian Economics and the Social Rights guy who loves spending money and getting more campaign money from Wall Street than anyone else ever. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] The only thing we can agree on is that none of us have Romney as a first choice.

There's like four people who actively like Ron Paul on Facepunch. and that makes up like 45% of his fanbase. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;35725947]It's not your bedtime yet, and I'm not your fucking mommy or daddy. Maybe if you're really good they will tell you the one about how Bush was really the antichrist all along, I know that's your favorite story.[/QUOTE] Try harder.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35725854]That is highly debatable. [/QUOTE] Highly debatable? What bullshit is that? Show me a post ANYWHERE that I have made that says I'm voting for Ron Paul simply because he's an underdog.

Considering everything, you're the one person who is least likely to like him for being an underdog considering you know how to argue your point unlike most Ron Paul fans I have talked to who usually have no idea what they are talking about.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35727157]Highly debatable? What bullshit is that? Show me a post ANYWHERE that I have made that says I'm voting for Ron Paul simply because he's an underdog.[/QUOTE] Seeing as you have this love attachment to him and you don't really argue for him, you just keep posting about how you go to his rallies. You're a Ron Paul fanboy, most ron paul supporters like him because he supports weed and he's the ~underdog~ I don't really care about Ron Paul of his support base, as there are like 8 people who support him. I'm mostly being facetious because I don't take him seriously.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35727219]Seeing as you have this love attachment to him and you don't really argue for him, you just keep posting about how you go to his rallies. You're a Ron Paul fanboy, most ron paul supporters like him because he supports weed and he's the ~underdog~ I don't really care about Ron Paul of his support base, as there are like 8 people who support him. I'm mostly being facetious because I don't take him seriously.[/QUOTE] You fucking replied to the massive post of his policies I posted in the other thread, are you really that forgetful? [url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1179697?p=35707202&viewfull=1#post35707202[/url] And I've never made a post saying I support him because of weed.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35727219]Seeing as you have this love attachment to him and you don't really argue for him, you just keep posting about how you go to his rallies. You're a Ron Paul fanboy, most ron paul supporters like him because he supports weed and he's the ~underdog~ I don't really care about Ron Paul of his support base, as there are like 8 people who support him.[/QUOTE] A large part of Facepunch like him for various reasons, and Ron Paul does have a large base of support, just not large enough to win against someone as moderate as Romney or as liberal as Obama. There are real reasons to believe in Ron Paul, and this is coming from a rabid Obama fanboy liberal guy. While I subscribe to Keynesian economics, Ron Paul fans believe in Austrian economics, which seem more not untrue because of the seeming ineffectiveness of global stimulus spending.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35727226] And I've never made a post saying I support him because of weed.[/QUOTE] Didn't say you did.

We can sit here and argue over who is the lesser of two evils when it comes to the GOP all day long, but we know Obama is going to win.

Romney could win.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;35725184]People on here take Ron Paul and demonize him a lot more than he honestly deserves. I feel that it has turned into a bandwagon and a lot of people haven't honestly done the research themselves.[/QUOTE] I admire him for being as consistent as he is, in a political landscape where triangulation is the main method of winning the polls which fucks over the traditional political base of parties. But his political beliefs replace problems with different problems [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] rather than solutions that is