Apple Admits They Were Wrong To Abandon EPEAT Environmental Standard - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Apple]We’ve recently heard from many loyal Apple customers who were disappointed to learn that we had removed our products from the EPEAT rating system. I recognize that this was a mistake. Starting today, all eligible Apple products are back on EPEAT. It’s important to know that our commitment to protecting the environment has never changed, and today it is as strong as ever. Apple makes the most environmentally responsible products in our industry. In fact, our engineering teams have worked incredibly hard over the years to make our products even more environmentally friendly, and much of our progress has come in areas not yet measured by EPEAT. For example, Apple led the industry in removing harmful toxins such as brominated flame retardants (BFRs) and polyvinyl chloride (PVC). We are the only company to comprehensively report greenhouse gas emissions for every product we make, taking into account the entire product lifecycle. And we’ve removed plastics wherever possible, in favor of materials that are more highly recyclable, more durable, more efficient and longer lasting. Perhaps most importantly, we make the most energy-efficient computers in the world and our entire product line exceeds the stringent ENERGY STAR 5.2 government standard. No one else in our industry can make that claim. We think the IEEE 1680.1 standard could be a much stronger force for protecting the environment if it were upgraded to include advancements like these. This standard, on which the EPEAT rating system is based, is an important measuring stick for our industry and its products. Our relationship with EPEAT has become stronger as a result of this experience, and we look forward to working with EPEAT as their rating system and the underlying IEEE 1680.1 standard evolve. Our team at Apple is dedicated to designing products that everyone can be proud to own and use.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.apple.com/environment/letter-to-customers/[/url] It's always nice to see a company admit their mistakes.

Now the San Francisco officials can use their macs again.

"Woah, that actually made us money. Well, back to status quo!"

[QUOTE=rosthouse;36755271]"Woah, that actually made us money. Well, back to status quo!"[/QUOTE] Quit rippin' on Apple son! You just jealous cause they richer than you, holmes!

It's hard to keep an environmental standard when your products are all Eco-unfriendly hunks of glued together garbage.

[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;36757776]It's hard to keep an environmental standard when your products are all Eco-unfriendly hunks of glued together garbage.[/QUOTE] Modern batteries in Macbooks are expected to last 5 years, which in the same time period the average laptop would have gone through 3 batteries. I think that's a bit more eco-friendly than you make them out to be.

Under similar use conditions, Apple batteries last 3 times longer than other batteries.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36758340]Modern batteries in Macbooks are expected to last 5 years, which in the same time period the average laptop would have gone through 3 batteries. I think that's a bit more eco-friendly than you make them out to be.[/QUOTE] And yet most of them barely last two years. Guy below you hit on it nicely, battery maintenance is key to getting it to last.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36759021]Under similar use conditions, Apple batteries last 3 times longer than other batteries.[/QUOTE] Got any sources on that? Last I heard, apple batteries are good for similar amounts of cycles as other batteries.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36758340]Modern batteries in Macbooks are expected to last 5 years, which in the same time period the average laptop would have gone through 3 batteries. I think that's a bit more eco-friendly than you make them out to be.[/QUOTE] even if that were true, the duration of something doesn't make it eco friendly.

And this is why Macs will never have the same performance as a PC without paying metric fucktons.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36758340]Modern batteries in Macbooks are expected to last 5 years, which in the same time period the average laptop would have gone through 3 batteries. I think that's a bit more eco-friendly than you make them out to be.[/QUOTE] It's not how long they lasted that took the new MBP off EPEAT, it's the fact that they're glued into the case and any attempt to remove the battery causes severe damage and they start spilling their innards.

[QUOTE=Forumaster;36760770]It's not how long they lasted that took the new MBP off EPEAT, it's the fact that they're glued into the case and any attempt to remove the battery causes severe damage and they start spilling their innards.[/QUOTE]And the fact that the glass screens are fused to the case, making it impossible for them to be recycled.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36759021]Under similar use conditions, Apple batteries last 3 times longer than other batteries.[/QUOTE] your thinking of lemon not apple

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36758340]Modern batteries in Macbooks are expected to last 5 years, which in the same time period the average laptop would have gone through 3 batteries. I think that's a bit more eco-friendly than you make them out to be.[/QUOTE] I have a Thinkpad from 98, it still has the original battery to my best knowledge and it still holds a charge for over 4 hours with some minor use. My other two laptops hold about the same charge after 2 and 4 years. I've seen plenty of people trash a battery in year or so, if 5 years is an average like most companies would say then I would see that Macbook being a nice little corded desktop which stays on while you move it to another wall outlet.

I've been working with my school's IT department for a while, the schools give students macbooks because Apple gives them a massive deal if not outright gives them to the schools for free, I've never seen a macbook in the entire three years that I've been helping out with the IT department, that has lasted one year without being broken somehow or needing to be sent back to Apple for it to be fixed for a lot of cash. And don't tell me it's because highschool kids just treat them like crap, because there are quite a few students who I'm pretty sure pamper the fucking things, yet even with the cases and shit that the school gives the students, something always goes wrong. Hell mine, which I honestly just left on my shelf for the entire year, unused other than one English assignment that I had to write while out of town and guess what? It was a brand new laptop, I never left the battery charged unless I had to use it for some time, it was always off and in a protective case, the battery lasted an astounding one hour before it died.

The newer macbooks with integrated SSDs and RAM are anything but eco-friendly. If either the SSD EEPROMS fail or the RAM fails and you're out of a warranty, it's not possible to fix it, let alone open the thing. You're going to have people throwing them out en-mass because our economy is so disposable. Not to mention Apple products are made in one of the most polluted countries in the world, with nearly slave labor.