ISIS ties foes to ancient Palmyra columns and blows them up
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[QUOTE](CNN)ISIS, which comes up with more and more heinous methods of execution, has ramped up its cruelty: Members of the group tied three people to the pillars in the ancient section of Palmyra and killed them by detonating the pillars, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported.
The group said it learned of the killings from local sources in the city, which has been under ISIS control since May. The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights relies on activists inside Syria to document human rights violations in the country .
Not much else is known about the executions, including the names of the men or what they were accused of.
But ISIS has killed for the slightest of offenses and used brutal ways to do so.
In another recent execution, ISIS ran over a member of the Syrian military with a tank "because he ran over dead bodies of the Islamic State soldiers by tank."
Some sentenced to death have been forced to dig their graves with their own hands before being put to death.
ISIS, also known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, has taken over large swaths of both nations in an effort to create a caliphate. Where the group holds sway, it has imposed harsh Islamic Sharia law.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/middleeast/isis-pillar-executions-palmyra-syria/[/url]
Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48994483]Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.[/QUOTE]
Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure. IS has the terror and fear advantage.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
What are you basing that on?
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48994483]Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.[/QUOTE]
I doubt US intervention is going to escalate past what we're putting in now. We're in no position--politically or otherwise--to start a full-fledged war in the Mideast again for any other reason than self-defense.
Man, I hate ISIS.
Be careful with interventions, though. It's part of what created these monsters in the first place.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
Given how both ISIS and the locals both don't really like the west hanging around and causing more problems I don't think it will turn out like that.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
Not really, most sunnis tolerate ISIS, sure SOME hate them, but most tolerate it, if you look closely, you'll see ISIS is basically a slightly worse saudi arabia but without legitimacy and western allies.
People severely underestimate the amount of hatred that exists between shias and sunnis, which is the origin of this conflict and ISIS emergence.
Does ISIS just sit around getting stoned thinking of new ways to execute people
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
Sadly, things like that just don't happen. "General population" consists of people who just want to live through it, ones who wanted to fight are already dead or joined some resistance groups, the rest won't do anything. Not counting people who fled, obviously.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48994483]Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.[/QUOTE]
No fuck that
Every intervention in the Middle East cept the kurds has been a total failure
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48995215]Does ISIS just sit around getting stoned thinking of new ways to execute people[/QUOTE]
Sounds like it. They have tons of opium growing out there.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
The same could be said for any form of tyranny. It's very rare for a dictator/military government/whatever to have more numbers than the population they are oppressing.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48994483]Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah ... fight another war on terror. In the process we create another version of ISIS.
Because you know, ISIS wasn't created because of the US's careless wars or anything...
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48994483]Only a matter of time until the US is balls deep at war with them.[/QUOTE]
lol nope
sending special forces sure but no
Russia is more likely to get more involved than the US is
[QUOTE]ince then, the Islamic extremists have beheaded the antiquities expert who looked after the ruins and set about demolishing their architectural riches.
In August, they leveled two temples of immense cultural significance -- the Temple of Bel and the Temple of Baalshamin -- prompting outrage and condemnation from around the world.[/QUOTE]
Well the Prophet Mohammed didn't destroy them. What makes them think they should?
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48994897]Eventually they will collapse without intervention, since the general population will rise against them. There's a lot more civilians than ISIS fighters[/QUOTE]
Isn't the general population in Europe ?
[QUOTE=Saxon;48995460]No fuck that
Every intervention in the Middle East cept the kurds has been a total failure[/QUOTE]
Except afghanistan
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;48999544]Except afghanistan[/QUOTE]
Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East
[QUOTE=Griffster26;48999600]Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East[/QUOTE]
Its still an example of a succesful intervention in the general area
[QUOTE=old_hag12;48996333]Yeah ... fight another war on terror. In the process we create another version of ISIS.
Because you know, ISIS wasn't created because of the US's careless wars or anything...[/QUOTE]
If you think that ISIS is because of us, you've got absolutely 0 clue. That being said, current affairs in the middle East -did- allow them to secure a lucky foothold, but its one that'd be easy to slip them out of.
If it weren't for the international anti-american 'everything wrong in the middle east is due to fat Ameritards' hate wave that's been digging itself into people's minds, we'd have solved the issue by now. We could destroy ISIS relatively simply, but the fact of the matter is that we cant without taking the blame for the eventual group that rises to popularity afterwards.
I wish Russia would go full on Grozny 1999 on these cockbags and turn their outposts and fortifications to dust.
[QUOTE=xamllew;48999661]I just want Russia to go full on Grozny 1999 on these cockbags and turn their outposts and fortifications to dust. They seem to be the only ones willing to take the necessary action to have an effect on ISIS.[/QUOTE]
I'd say their biggest advantage here is that they've got no pr to worry about. If they fuck up then whatever, middle East was a fucking hellhole anyway no harm done, but if they actually succeed and dismantle ISIS then they're gonna get a shitton of positive rep for themselves
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;48999686]I'd say their biggest advantage here is that they've got no pr to worry about. If they fuck up then whatever, middle East was a fucking hellhole anyway no harm done, but if they actually succeed and dismantle ISIS then they're gonna get a shitton of positive rep for themselves[/QUOTE]
Putin is the kind of give-zero-fucks leader that would actually take some major action as history has proven. I hate to say it but we need a big asshole to bring down a bigger asshole.
[QUOTE=Saxon;48995460]No fuck that
Every intervention in the Middle East cept the kurds has been a total failure[/QUOTE]
Kurds will start genociding Arabs at some point... Already a few ethnic cleansings.
[QUOTE=xamllew;49000167]Putin is the kind of give-zero-fucks leader that would actually take some major action as history has proven. I hate to say it but we need a big asshole to bring down a bigger asshole.[/QUOTE]
Russia hasn't had good luck in the middle east either though.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;48996125]The same could be said for any form of tyranny. It's very rare for a dictator/military government/whatever to have more numbers than the population they are oppressing.[/QUOTE]
That's if the people can organize and unite, but the people they're oppressing are either:
1) Already dead for standing up to them
2) Dead because reasons
3) Uneducated to the point that they can barely read and write, much less organize a resistance
4) Ill equipped, they're not anything like 'Merrica where they can just loot a Wal-Mart and start an uprising, ISIS makes damn sure that THEY are the ones with the guns/ammo
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[QUOTE=xamllew;49000167]Putin is the kind of give-zero-fucks leader that would actually take some major action as history has proven. I hate to say it but we need a big asshole to bring down a bigger asshole.[/QUOTE]
I can halfway imagine Putin being a cheeky fucker and responding to the people who would say that Russia's methods are brutal and there are too many civilian casualties by saying "You could've always asked America to do it..."
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49000230]Russia hasn't had good luck in the middle east either though.[/QUOTE]
I'd say ISIS isn't very comparable to the rebel guerrilla fighters of the Soviet-Afghan war who relied mostly on hit and run and ambush tactics rather than urban combat and aggressively storming towns and cities as ISIS does.
[QUOTE=xamllew;49000167]Putin is the kind of give-zero-fucks leader that would actually take some major action as history has proven.[/QUOTE]
He's also the give-zero-fucks kind of guy who will do just a little bit more that nothing at all and prolong the conflict, all to further his political support back at home and to redirect the money flow to the military some more. So I wouldn't be too optimistic about our military fighting ISIS much, they're not there to do that.
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