• Pistorius sentenced to five years in jail
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29700457[/url] [quote]South African athlete Oscar Pistorius has been given five years in jail for killing his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. Judge Thokozile Masipa also gave Pistorius a three-year suspended sentence for a firearms charge. The parents of Reeva Steenkamp told the BBC they were happy with the sentence and relieved the case was over. The defence said it expected Pistorius to serve about 10 months in prison. Pistorius was convicted of culpable homicide but cleared of murder. Prosecutors had called for a minimum 10-year term, and the defence had argued for community service and house arrest.[/quote]
[quote]The defence said it expected Pistorius to serve about 10 months in prison.[/quote] wow
What a joke
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46293368]wow[/QUOTE] Yep it's complete and utter bollocks, anyone else does what he did and they get sent down. It's just his name that saved him here. Dangerous precedent set here by this judge, in theory if you want to kill someone and 'get away with it' Shoot them through a door.
I can understand how it happened given he lives in a shitty country with rampant crime.
No worries, I mean, when you wake up in the middle of the night and hear someone in your bathroom everyone just instantly assumes it's a burglar and caps them right? Unbelievable that he's only gonna be serving like 10 months.
so he shot blindly into a door with the intent of killing someone, then realised he killed someone he didn't want to and he's in jail for less than a year. gr8 stuff thanks.
[QUOTE=download;46293389]I can understand how it happened given he lives in a shitty country with rampant crime.[/QUOTE] So he's incapable of opening doors?
I'm just happy it's fucking over. It's been full media coverage for what feels like years.
[QUOTE=bravehat;46293390]No worries, I mean, when you wake up in the middle of the night and hear someone in your bathroom everyone just instantly assumes it's a burglar and caps them right?[/QUOTE] the dude tweeted about rolling around the house like a commando with his gun in the middle of the night because he heard a noise and then realising it was just the washing machine so whether he meant to kill her or not it's obvious the guy has a massive hardon for guns and self-defence fantasies
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46293412]the dude tweeted about rolling around the house like a commando with his gun in the middle of the night because he heard a noise and then realising it was just the washing machine so whether he meant to kill her or not it's obvious the guy has a massive hardon for guns and self-defence fantasies[/QUOTE] That just makes it even more impressive that he only got 5 years.
i'm sure part of the firearms offence is about him shooting his gun through the roof of his car or something once as well murderer or not, pistorius is fucked in the head and shouldn't be a free man with a gun
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46293368]wow[/QUOTE] That's if everything goes perfect with the perole boards and good behavior, it does not represent what he will actually serve
You guys know what "expectation" means, right? Regardless, there's probably tons of cases that have questionable sentences that aren't covered by the media and this is just another moneygrab because it's a famous handicapped athlete or whatever, I'm glad it's over and off the fucking news. What's the point of even arguing about this when no one here knows, or will know, even half the details of what happened that night anyway.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46293412]the dude tweeted about rolling around the house like a commando with his gun in the middle of the night because he heard a noise and then realising it was just the washing machine so whether he meant to kill her or not it's obvious the guy has a massive hardon for guns and self-defence fantasies[/QUOTE] This is what the judge has said all along, you cannot 100% disprove that he might have thought there was an intruder in the room, even though we're 99% sure he's talking utter shit still leaves that 1% doubt so that's where his defense was. The Judge bottled as far as im concerned.
I can't imagine his case being used as a deterrent at all so I question why they even gave him 5 years? Is it because he's a menace to society that South Africans need to be protected from or is it simply because they don't know what to do with him. He's already lost everything he worked for, isn't that punishment enough?
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46293473]I can't imagine his case being used as a deterrent at all so I question why they even gave him 5 years? Is it because he's a menace to society that South Africans need to be protected from or is it simply because they don't know what to do with him. He's already lost everything he worked for, isn't that punishment enough?[/QUOTE] No, he killed someone.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;46293431]This is what the judge has said all along, you cannot 100% disprove that he might have thought there was an intruder in the room, even though we're 99% sure he's talking utter shit still leaves that 1% doubt so that's where his defense was. The Judge bottled as far as im concerned.[/QUOTE] No the judge followed the letter of the law when most would have Pistorious' head on a stick. [editline]21st October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=bravehat;46293476]No, he killed someone.[/QUOTE] Yes but what purpose does jailing him serve?
He doesn't just go free after ten months [I]if[/I] he is released from prison after that amount of time. The rest of the sentence would be spent under house arrest. Additionally, acting like this is super surprising is a bit much, given that he was already cleared of the murder charge, this is judgment for culpable homicide, and the judge made a case for why she came to the verdict that she did in the article.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46293480] Yes but what purpose does jailing him serve?[/QUOTE] he murdered someone with intent. would you like to shake his hand?
[QUOTE=AK'z;46293529]he murdered someone with intent. would you like to shake his hand?[/QUOTE] I think he means where's the justice in sentencing him 5 years where he could be out in 10 months and serve his time in his home? What's that "compensating" in his murder, in the woman's death, the family's feelings, etc?
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46293480] Yes but what purpose does jailing him serve?[/QUOTE] He took someones life. He doesn't deserve the freedom. I think 5 years is even too little. How many years did he take from his girlfriend?
[QUOTE=AK'z;46293529]he murdered someone with intent. would you like to shake his hand?[/QUOTE] This is literally not the judgment. CNN reported that in South Africa, culpable homicide is killing unintentionally, but unlawfully. Maybe they are off about that, but unless they are, then the ruling is that he did not kill with intent. [editline]21st October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=PieClock;46293540]He took someones life. He doesn't deserve the freedom. I think 5 years is even too little. How many years did he take from his girlfriend?[/QUOTE] So in cases where it is ruled unintentional/culpable homicide, where it has been accepted by the Judge that it was not an act of malicious intent, we should still jail them for the life expectancy of the victim? Or do we cherry pick?
[QUOTE=Bentham;46293547] he did not kill with intent. [/QUOTE] he wasn't shooting into that door to practice his aim.
[QUOTE=AK'z;46293564]he wasn't shooting into that door to practice his aim.[/QUOTE] congrats on making your interpretation known, however, the judge is the one who actually presided over the matter, heard the evidence and came to the conclusion that it was not murder with intent.
South Africa is honestly fucked up, I was watching the live media coverage and I was expecting the judge to go full Nelson Mandela on his ass Her statement such as "It'll be a sad day when this Country has a court for dealing with rich people and a court for dealing with poor people" or something I fucking guarantee, if this was anyone else they'd get a fucking 15 year sentence, probably more if they were a different colour because Apartheid still runs deep within SA culture But yes, I'm happy that it's over because the media have been spinning this shit for so long it was getting tiring
[QUOTE=PieClock;46293540]He took someones life. He doesn't deserve the freedom. I think 5 years is even too little. How many years did he take from his girlfriend?[/QUOTE] Honestly I've just read up on current plan proposed and it seems fair, 3 years of correctional supervision and 2 years of direct imprisonment will actually help him instead of locking him up and letting him stew. I suspect if this case were to take place in the US or the UK he would have easily gotten 10-15 years in prison with absolutely no correction at all which would have been an absolute waste. [editline]21st October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Bentham;46293547]This is literally not the judgment. CNN reported that in South Africa, culpable homicide is killing unintentionally, but unlawfully. Maybe they are off about that, but unless they are, then the ruling is that he did not kill with intent. [/QUOTE] it's basically their version of manslaughter with a few differences I suspect.
Prosecutors wanted 10 years. Defendants wanted community service and house arrest. So he got five years, and may be released in 10 months. Sounds about right tbh., considering he's a professional athlete and he was probably well represented in court. Definitely got the sweeter end of the deal though.
As long as by the end of this, he knows that just because you're famous you can't go killing your bloody girlfriend, at least the justice system will have done its job.
wow everyone sounds pist
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