[quote]Creativity is often part of a mental illness, with writers particularly susceptible, according to a study of more than a million people.
Writers had a higher risk of anxiety and bipolar disorders, schizophrenia, unipolar depression, and substance abuse, the Swedish researchers at the Karolinska Institute found.
They were almost twice as likely as the general population to kill themselves.
The dancers and photographers were also more likely to have bipolar disorder.
"It is important that we do not romanticise people with mental health problems, who are too often portrayed as struggling creative geniuses" - Beth Murphy (The mental health charity Mind)
As a group, those in the creative professions were no more likely to suffer from psychiatric disorders than other people.
But they were more likely to have a close relative with a disorder, including anorexia and, to some extent, autism, the Journal of Psychiatric Research reports.
Lead researcher Dr Simon Kyaga said the findings suggested disorders should be viewed in a new light and that certain traits might be beneficial or desirable.
For example, the restrictive and intense interests of someone with autism and the manic drive of a person with bipolar disorder might provide the necessary focus and determination for genius and creativity.
Similarly, the disordered thoughts associated with schizophrenia might spark the all-important originality element of a masterpiece.[/quote]
Further info at source: [URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19959565[/URL]
Could this explain Minecraft players
In other words normal people are boring.
[QUOTE=smurfy;38061683]Could this explain Minecraft players[/QUOTE]
I compulsively play Minecraft on creative mode because I can never remember the crafting recipes and can't be bothered to use the wiki while playing
Well that would explain why I feel nothing but sadness every waking moment of my fucking life. Can't even write anymore, because there's just no point.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38061729]Well that would explain why I feel nothing but sadness every waking moment of my fucking life. Can't even write anymore, because there's just no point.[/QUOTE]
I would so give you a hug :c
Look at people with severe schizophrenia. What they draw is abstract as hell, but I'd be damned if it isn't also some of the most artistic stuff I've seen.
[img]http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/wainydaylmo3_thumb.jpg[/img]
Yeah, that's pretty much me.
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;38061749]Look at people with severe schizophrenia. What they draw is abstract as hell, but I'd be damned if it isn't also some of the most artistic stuff I've seen.
[img]http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/wainydaylmo3_thumb.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
"You did a good job today, my little potted children!"
"Dude, why is mom petting those flowers?
"Shh, she has schizophrenia, remember? Just be glad we live in a huge house because of her expensive abstract art."
I'm a horrible person.
i thought this was already really well known
now all [I]I[/I] need to figure out is
Am I extraordinarily imaginative, or just have too much damn free time?
[editline]16th October 2012[/editline]
this explains why [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QupS8MIA-MQ"]buckethead [/URL]is so good at music
Don't believe 'em man they're trying to [B]oppress us[/B] the MAN is trying to make us SLAVES
DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT
Hmm, the thing about writers actually would explain a good bit about my father. He has always been moody and depressed and prone to sharp, sudden changes in attitude and at least mildly paranoid. And he wants to be a famous novelist.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;38061930]I'm unimaginitive as fuck when it comes to things like art and writing.
Guess that some how makes me normal (albeit uninteresting).[/QUOTE]
Don't worry! you can still be something creative!
Like an engineer, a billionaire... or... astronaut, or a cop! or a politician!
just because you can't be a morbidly insane drunk doesn't mean you're uninteresting!
i'm not surprised to hear this. the liberal left revels in 'art' and 'music'- when the [i]real things[/i] that [b]matter[/b] are fixing the economy. friedman never bothered with that useless stuff...
Musician; poet; writer
Bipolar :v:
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;38061668]Similarly, the disordered thoughts associated with schizophrenia might spark the all-important originality element of a masterpiece.[/QUOTE]
Adds a little bit of joy to my life being previously diagnosed as a schizo and all. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;38061749]Look at people with severe schizophrenia. What they draw is abstract as hell, but I'd be damned if it isn't also some of the most artistic stuff I've seen.
[img]http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/wainydaylmo3_thumb.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://modcatlove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/wains-schizophrenia-progression.jpg[/IMG]
"this isn't even my final form"
my grandmother suffered from schizophrenia and was an amazing writer and artist, it all makes sense now
they say most creative and revolutionary thinkers have always been misfits and daydreamers, if people think imagination is abnormal then that's their problem.
Nothing new. As a overly creative person with general anxiety disorder, I also know that many of my creative friends have a lot of "luggage" when it comes to their mental health.
not suggesting at all that homosexuality is a mental illness, but is it just a coincidence that some artistic geniuses and scientific geniuses were (also allegedly) homosexual?
I tried my best to word that carefully cause I'm not here to offend.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;38061938]Don't believe 'em man they're trying to [B]oppress us[/B] the MAN is trying to make us SLAVES
DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT[/QUOTE]
More of, some of my best friends are undeniably troubled with various mental things while being absolutely amazing people.
I don't think problem is defining and describing illnesses they might have. Problem is judging them such people as lesser.
I have some light ADHD and I am moodier than the the weirdest bitch, and I realize retrospectively that I do seriously stupid shit at times and harm the people who care about me. That's why I love them even more and am more than glad to ignore their own problems.
I am supposedly both intelligent and and creative, so I guess life is a bit like an RPG. Good perks come with some bad to balance them out.
[sp]except these people who seem perfect in all ways, hnngh how I hate them[/sp]
it doesn't stop at creativity either
Einstein showed a lot of signs of autism
They say there's a fine line between genius and madness, though actually it's like there's more of an overlap than you'd think. I'm pretty creative and whatnot, and I was diagnosed with Asperger's at a young age. Managed to get through life alright, though nowadays I dunno how well things are going in general. Probably just a phase.
A risk I'm willing to take to not have a fucking boring life
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;38061716]I compulsively play Minecraft on creative mode because I can never remember the crafting recipes and can't be bothered to use the wiki while playing[/QUOTE]
Nice!
As a dancer and writer I am deeply offended.
maybe the ones that have mental diseases are the ones that are "studying" them
Considering that every writer ever has depression this isn't a surprise.
Unusual thoughts -> unusual actions -> unusual art
Doesn't seem that amazing a connection.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38061729]Well that would explain why I feel nothing but sadness every waking moment of my fucking life. Can't even write anymore, because there's just no point.[/QUOTE]
[i]There can't possibly be any meaning in this world. But isn't that wonderful in its own right? Because if there isn't any, we can find our own.[/i]
[i]Though I am long dead as you read this explorer, I offer to you a valediction. Contemplate the marvel that is existence, and rejoice that you are able to do so. I feel I have the right to tell you this because, as I am inscribing these words, I am doing the same.[/i]
[i]If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence. For nothing is self-sufficient, neither in us ourselves nor in things; and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed.[/i]
[i]Life is hell, we're all gonna die and you can't fight fate, thus we might as well start killing each other right now" - "Life is hell, we're all gonna die and you can't fight fate... but why not make each others' lives worthwhile and enjoyable in the meantime?[/i]
[i]The system teaches us to put our lives in optimized routine. Plan your day efficiently, be on time at work, make money, eat healthy, brush your teeth, drink with friends, yeah yeah I get that. But I don't get why these people don't realize that the most though-out plans are the easiest to break. Change a little thing and your schedule's screwed up. Great! Do something you wouldn't expect of yourself. If you want to break out of your routine, you gotta break apart the life you live. Stand up. Stand up! Stand up when others fold their hands in apathy, fearing to break out of their carefully crafted routine, what they consider their magnum opus. Become the most interesting man you'll ever know. Do something extraordinary. Be someone extraordinary. I respect long-sightedness, it's clever and all, but most folks just seem to save up for a pretty coffin.[/i]
[i]From the day we learned the truth behind Santa Clause, life has insisted on teaching us that out of two possible scenarios, the darker one is more likely to be true. We think that after learning this we've reached the mind of an adult (because don't we always think that?), when in truth we are mistaking dark for profound and have cast the sources of our childhood smile into oblivion. The true adult that isn't a cynical shell of greed, but a being of flesh and blood with a beating heart inside, is the one that breaks out. Breaks out of his sour armor to rediscover the smile of a child. To realize this child has never been blessed with ignorance. But blessed with curiosity. With passion. With drive. No matter low the odds, how cruel the world, all you can do and all you should do is give it your best shot. Inspire people. Make them smile. From the bottom of their hearts! This is what it means to be adult, instead of a cogwheel in a system equal to the sum of its parts.[/i]
[i]If nothing that we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.[/i]
[i]The struggle itself [...] is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.[/i]
[url="http://xkcd.com/167/"][link][/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M"][obligatory for FP][/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPSCwJeIUY&feature=my_favorites&list=FLhHT9ja1LSS4T-NOSmZXBVA][link][/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4][link][/url] [url=http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/6-inspiring-ted-talks-about-happiness-and-belief/][link][/url]
idk if what I've searched up for you is gonna be Teflon or if some of it will stick, but I write stuff myself (when I'm not illustrating it) and I'm always interested in hearing about other people's projects. So if you want, drop me a PM.
And maybe stay away from the ridiculously cynical parts of the internet for a while. Those that would never admit they messed up and apologize. Those that use swear words without hesitation because that's what "independent adult people" supposedly do.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;38062881]Unusual thoughts -> unusual actions -> unusual art
Doesn't seem that amazing a connection.
[i]There can't possibly be any meaning in this world. But isn't that wonderful in its own right? Because if there isn't any, we can find our own.[/i]
[i]Though I am long dead as you read this explorer, I offer to you a valediction. Contemplate the marvel that is existence, and rejoice that you are able to do so. I feel I have the right to tell you this because, as I am inscribing these words, I am doing the same.[/i]
[i]If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence. For nothing is self-sufficient, neither in us ourselves nor in things; and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed.[/i]
[i]Life is hell, we're all gonna die and you can't fight fate, thus we might as well start killing each other right now" - "Life is hell, we're all gonna die and you can't fight fate... but why not make each others' lives worthwhile and enjoyable in the meantime?[/i]
[i]The system teaches us to put our lives in optimized routine. Plan your day efficiently, be on time at work, make money, eat healthy, brush your teeth, drink with friends, yeah yeah I get that. But I don't get why these people don't realize that the most though-out plans are the easiest to break. Change a little thing and your schedule's screwed up. Great! Do something you wouldn't expect of yourself. If you want to break out of your routine, you gotta break apart the life you live. Stand up. Stand up! Stand up when others fold their hands in apathy, fearing to break out of their carefully crafted routine, what they consider their magnum opus. Become the most interesting man you'll ever know. Do something extraordinary. Be someone extraordinary. I respect long-sightedness, it's clever and all, but most folks just seem to save up for a pretty coffin.[/i]
[i]From the day we learned the truth behind Santa Clause, life has insisted on teaching us that out of two possible scenarios, the darker one is more likely to be true. We think that after learning this we've reached the mind of an adult (because don't we always think that?), when in truth we are mistaking dark for profound and have cast the sources of our childhood smile into oblivion. The true adult that isn't a cynical shell of greed, but a being of flesh and blood with a beating heart inside, is the one that breaks out. Breaks out of his sour armor to rediscover the smile of a child. To realize this child has never been blessed with ignorance. But blessed with curiosity. With passion. With drive. No matter low the odds, how cruel the world, all you can do and all you should do is give it your best shot. Inspire people. Make them smile. From the bottom of their hearts! This is what it means to be adult, instead of a cogwheel in a system equal to the sum of its parts.[/i]
[i]If nothing that we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.[/i]
[i]The struggle itself [...] is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.[/i]
[url="http://xkcd.com/167/"][link][/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M"][obligatory for FP][/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPSCwJeIUY&feature=my_favorites&list=FLhHT9ja1LSS4T-NOSmZXBVA][link][/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4][link][/url] [url=http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/6-inspiring-ted-talks-about-happiness-and-belief/][link][/url]
idk if what I've searched up for you is gonna be Teflon or if some of it will stick, but I write stuff myself (when I'm not illustrating it) and I'm always interested in hearing about other people's projects. So if you want, drop me a PM.
And maybe stay away from the ridiculously cynical parts of the internet for a while. Those that would never admit they messed up and apologize. Those that use swear words without hesitation because that's what "independent adult people" supposedly do.[/QUOTE]
that's certainly a creative way to admit that you have autism
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