Writers of Star Trek sequel looking to TOS eps for inspiration - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are still in the early stages of writing the sequel to 2009′s Star Trek reboot (likely due in the summer of 2012), and given the general fog of secrecy that hovers over every J.J. Abrams project, you won’t be surprised to find out that their recent interview with the Los Angeles Times is very light on any specific plot revelations. However, if you sift through the writing pair’s jaunty obfuscation, you can spot two key bits of wisdom that may indicate the shape of Star Trek 12/2/Whatever. 1. They’re not thinking trilogy. The last decade of blockbuster Hollywood storytelling has been defined by trilogies. The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings, Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man series, Christopher Nolan’s Batman series, even seemingly open-ended franchises like Blade and The Bourne Identity all reached for the curious magic of a three-part cycle. So it’s interesting to note that Orci and Kurtzman seem to be pretty okay with just making a regular old sequel. “I don’t know that we’ve ever thought of [the new Star Trek series] in terms of a trilogy,” says Orci. Kurtzman contrasts the first movie, which was essentially an origin story, with the new one: “It becomes about this family that’s together, so now it becomes about the thing that shakes them up and challenges them.” I love trilogies as much as the next guy, but I’m sort of intrigued by the notion of these guys creating a new standalone story — which is sort of what the Star Trek film series was all about, pre-reboot. (Although I guess you could argue that Star Treks II through IV form a sub-trilogy within the larger series.) 2. They’re watching old episodes for “inspiration.” To me, the best part about the Star Trek reboot was how it managed to have its cake and eat it too. The creators embedded a few hundred throwaway references to Star Trek lore (yeesh, they even gave Bakula’s character from Enterprise a shout-out), but they also essentially tore apart the entirety of Trek history to create a brand new continuity. So although Kurtzman and Orci seem pretty set on creating a new story, they’re still looking back to old episodes of the original series for further inspiration. Says Orci, “Whereas the last movie was all about breaking free from Star Trek and its canon, now that we can do whatever we want, we still want it to feel like good ol’ Star Trek even though it’s a new story.” I read that as an indication that, we’re probably not going to see Wrath of Khan 2.0, or any other obvious villains from Trek past. (That might mean no Klingons, which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Hey, I love the Klingons, but they’re the most overexposed Big Bads in the Trekverse.) There’s a part of me that’s still hoping that the next Trek will feature a new version of an old villain from the original series, like the Gorn. Then again, Orci is on the record as a fan of the great Star Trek book Prime Directive — maybe we’ll some some elements of that book in the sequel? What do you think, PopWatchers? Do you want a whole new storyline, or are you hankering for some Klingons?[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/11/30/star-trek-sequel-orci-kurtzman/[/url] Next movie better have Klingons.

I hope it's about tribbles. Main antagonist will be harry mudd calling it now.

[QUOTE=Pythagoras;26427284]I hope it's about tribbles.[/QUOTE] That would be hilarious if they got them in somehow :buddy:

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26427294]That would be hilarious if they got them in somehow :buddy:[/QUOTE] There actually was a tribble on scotty's desk in the first movie. I think he had it in like a bird cage or something

Just make a new series.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;26428039]Just make a new series.[/QUOTE] They tried. It was called "Enterprise", and it was canceled.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26428078]They tried. It was called "Enterprise", and it was canceled.[/QUOTE] Don't use plot arcs, and DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES put it on UPN.

And murder Rick Berman with a fire axe.

Screw these action heavy trek reboots, I just want either a Voyager or Ds9 movie.

[QUOTE=RAYHALO;26428404]Screw these action heavy trek reboots, I just want either a Voyager or Ds9 movie.[/QUOTE] Most believe they were horrible series. Even though I loved DS-9

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26427156] Next movie better have Klingons.[/QUOTE] The first movie had Klingons but they deleted all of their scenes :sigh:

[QUOTE=meppers;26428749]The first movie had Klingons but they deleted all of their scenes :sigh:[/QUOTE] :smith:

I want TNG

As Facepunch's resident trekker, this is probably the best news i've heard all week. I hope they don't try to mimic TOS too much, I quite liked the styling of STXI. [editline]1st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mingebox;26428105]Don't use plot arcs, and DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES put it on UPN.[/QUOTE] Plot arcs worked fantastically in DS9, especially in the Dominion War.

Khaaaaan

This seems logical.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;26428105]Don't use plot arcs, and DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES put it on UPN.[/QUOTE] Season 4 wasn't bad, if the whole series was that good it probably would have had 7 seasons.

As long as Rick Berman is kept far away from anything to do with the story I will be pleased. [QUOTE=postal;26427478]There actually was a tribble on scotty's desk in the first movie. I think he had it in like a bird cage or something[/QUOTE] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100111035147/memoryalpha/en/images/f/f7/Tribble_on_Delta_Vega.jpg[/img]

Star Trek XII should have the XI universe's Enterprise get stuck in the Terran Empire's universe. In case you aren't a Trekkie, this is the Terran Empire. [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dl5zw6fGjdA[/media] Basically, there was an event sometime in Earth's past that caused alternate universes to form. One universe became the "primary universe," where humanity is essentially good and just. The other became the Terran Empire universe, where humans are essentially bloodthirsty and spiteful. There have been a few episodes where people have crossed between the two universes. Also, in the TOS episode that introduced the Terran Empire, everyone from the Terran Empire universe had a goatee, spawning the "evil twins have a goatee" thing.

Would be awesome if they could include the borg.

of course they're looking to TOS for "inspiration" so they can "pay homage" to it - the entire new Star Trek (yes I did enjoy it very much btw) is a [B]big awesome action movie[/B] bundled up in a star trek wrapper that specifically exploits as much nostalgic imagery as it possibly can to sell itself to star trek fans while the action part makes it accessible to the mainstream I could go on an on about it but this thread's about the sequel so I won't [QUOTE=RAYHALO;26428404]Screw these action heavy trek reboots, I just want either a Voyager or Ds9 movie.[/QUOTE] not gonna happen, they're not accessible to a mass audience (only trek fans would see them) and thus not commercially viable [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26428439]Most believe they were horrible series. Even though I loved DS-9[/QUOTE] what? people thought Voyager was alright and DS-9 was very highly rated (until near the end I think anyway, the dominion war didn't help) [QUOTE=meppers;26428749]The first movie had Klingons but they deleted all of their scenes :sigh:[/QUOTE] that's because [I]everybody[/I] knows what klingons are, even non-trek fans (some would even remember the TOS klingons *shudder*) and they wanted to reinvent star trek's image [QUOTE=pointyface;26429502]I want TNG[/QUOTE] no I love TNG as much as the next guy buy it's done, it's over, it's finished. the movies were fucking awful (first contact was MEH) and the cast is [I]ancient[/I] and I just know rick berman would get it and that man must never be allowed near star trek ever again [QUOTE=Arachnidus;26429678]Plot arcs worked fantastically in DS9, especially in the Dominion War.[/QUOTE] tv show =/= movie [QUOTE=mikhga;26430958]Would be awesome if they could include the borg.[/QUOTE] no, no it wouldn't the last thing the TOS reboot needs is the borg seriously

[QUOTE=Kalibos;26431452] tv show =/= movie [/QUOTE] He was talking about ENT, I'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE=Arachnidus;26431478]He was talking about ENT, I'm pretty sure.[/QUOTE] ah

well, this next one is gonna suck, it's destiny.

[QUOTE=Kalibos;26431452] no, no it wouldn't the last thing the TOS reboot needs is the borg seriously[/QUOTE] Woops, forgot it's going to be a TOS reboot. Sorry. Well, either way, I'd like to see the Borg with new VFX technology in some kind of ST movie, the romulans spaceship in the last movie was awesome effect wise, and so would a Borg cube be.

Borg. Calling it.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26428439]Most believe they were horrible series. Even though I loved DS-9[/QUOTE]DS9 is terrible? what the fuck

[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;26432654]Borg. Calling it.[/QUOTE] [B]why[/B] would the borg appear in the TOS reboot that doesn't make any sense, at all

[QUOTE=Kalibos;26432788][B]why[/B] would the borg appear in the TOS reboot that doesn't make any sense, at all[/QUOTE] Especially since it was Q who showed the Enterprise the borg and the fact that that took place quite some time after TOS and they had trouble fighting the borg. Yeah definitely going to be the borg..... :downs:

I liked the 2009 one.