Russian President Vladimir Putin 'ordered' Campaign to Influence Presidential Election - Polidicks

[quote]A new declassified report says Russian President Vladimir Putin "ordered" an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. U.S. intelligence officials released the 25-page public version of the report Friday, after they briefed President-elect Donald Trump and top lawmakers on Capitol Hill from a longer, classified version. The report says Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's long-standing desire to undermine the U.S.-led liberal democratic order. It says the scope of Russia's activities was significantly larger compared with previous operations.[/quote] [URL="https://www.apnews.com/ffc7ac4dbdb14159a3b30fa919e1f061/The-Latest:-Report-says-Putin-ordered-effort-on-US-election"]AP[/URL]

Welcome to cold war 2.0 ladies and gents

I can't find the report on a government website after a couple of search, [url=https://www.scribd.com/document/335885536/ICA-2017-01#from_embed]This will work for now I think[/url]

Didn't the US do the same back in Soviet-Era times?

[QUOTE=Killer900;51633440]Didn't the US do the same back in Soviet-Era times?[/QUOTE] This isn't soviet Era times anymore.

[QUOTE]The report says the goal of Moscow's meddling was to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Democratic Party nominee Hillary Clinton and harm her electability and potential presidency.[/QUOTE] Moscow we didn't need your help on that

[QUOTE=Killer900;51633440]Didn't the US do the same back in Soviet-Era times?[/QUOTE] This isn't the point. There's evidence of Russia interfering with our elections, and the PEOTUS is brushing it off and being extremely buddy buddy with them.

[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51633446]This isn't soviet Era times anymore.[/QUOTE] I don't think he was trying to say that it is??

Certainly believable. Putin's grudge against Clinton was personal and well known.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;51633458]This isn't the point. There's evidence of interfering our elections, and the PEOTUS is brushing it off and being extremely buddy buddy with Russia.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because according to this they helped him get into office.

[QUOTE=Wii60;51633455]Moscow we didn't need your help on that[/QUOTE]What exactly did the Russians do to interfere anyway? Release some emails showing that the DNC is corrupt?

[QUOTE=Killer900;51633440]Didn't the US do the same back in Soviet-Era times?[/QUOTE] I don't think the US could exert major influence over Soviet premier elections but Yeltsin was actively helped by the US in 1996: [url]http://ccisf.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/201612201405.pdf[/url] edit: oh you said Soviet times, in that case plenty of times, including post-war Italy, Japan, Philippines, Chile etc while the Soviets did their fair share too around the world

[QUOTE=Killer900;51633467]What exactly did the Russians do to interfere anyway? Release some emails showing that the DNC is corrupt?[/QUOTE] You say that as though Republican leadership interests are not also corrupt; the fact of the matter is that they specifically targeted one political leadership for damage to support their own foreign interest.

To what extent? Dummy accounts to shill on social media? RT hit pieces? Actual hacking of voting machines? Why aren't they being extremely specific if they're already willing to be this indicting? These are the same intelligence agencies who brought us "Saddam has WMDs" and "Osama is in Afghanistan" and "The Gulf of Tonkin was the NVA". I don't know about this yet...

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51633461]Yeah, because according to this they helped him get into office.[/QUOTE] Hillary helped get Trump into office. Russia did jack shit to help him.

I hope I don't get dragged away to the camps for saying this, but I kinda want the CIA or some other alphabet agency to interfere more with our upcoming prez elections in retaliation. I don't mind some liberal democracy now and again. Our media has been pushing the narrative that Trump is going to greatly improve the relations between our countries, but so far I do not see anything that would confirm this. In fact, I think they're setting Trump up for inevitable failure when the climate doesn't get warmer after these reports and such. Now that Obama's gone, we do need somebody to blame our country's shortcomings on.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51633494]Hillary helped get Trump into office. Russia did jack shit to help him.[/QUOTE] Both.

Putin himself is in hot water at the moment. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4sK36cU3Y[/media]

[QUOTE=Killer900;51633467]What exactly did the Russians do to interfere anyway? Release some emails showing that the DNC is corrupt?[/QUOTE] If Russia wanted to show how corrupt our government is, then they would have released emails from both sides. Only releasing the DNC's emails was a clear move to get Trump elected. [QUOTE=-nesto-;51633494]Hillary helped get Trump into office. Russia did jack shit to help him.[/QUOTE] While I don't feel like the leaked emails were the reason Hillary lost, that doesn't make it okay for Russia to try and interfere with the election.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51633494]Hillary helped get Trump into office. Russia did jack shit to help him.[/QUOTE] Did you even read the article?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51633543]Did you even read the article?[/QUOTE] A [I]report[/I] says he ordered it but when the intel community was on Capitol Hill the other day to testify they refused to testify under Oath that it was Putin. It doesn't add up

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51633505]Both.[/QUOTE] I talk with a lot of Trump voters. A lot. They voted because of how the Democratic party acted, how Hillary Clinton berated them personally, because they were sick of the economic state of the country, and because they saw Hillary as a continuation of 30 years of an establishment they thought had created hell. An establishment Dem like Clinton had no chance. Even Sanders' voters abandoned her. Trump was the change candidate AND he had a pulse on what a lot of people were fed up with. Russia didn't need to do anything. Whatever they might have done would have just been icing on the cake for these people. They were really fed up to begin with. Also, nearly every country has shilling programs to mess with every other country's elections. Most of all the US. I mean damn, this is pretty absurd coming from the CIA.

[QUOTE]Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations — such as cyber activity — with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and [B]paid social media users or “trolls."[/B][/QUOTE] I always knew those Trump spammers on Twitter were run by Russians.

[QUOTE=The Vman;51633537]If Russia wanted to show how corrupt our government is, then they would have released emails from both sides. Only releasing the DNC's emails was a clear move to get Trump elected. [/QUOTE] Are you implying that the RNC was hacked, and that Russia didn't give it to Wikileaks to spread?

[QUOTE=Chaitin;51633585]I always knew those Trump spammers on Twitter were run by Russians.[/QUOTE] To be fair, state-sponsored trolling and shilling is a real thing in Russia. It's used to undermine liberal media and online discussions and is run by Putin's cronies. Fun stuff.

[QUOTE=Shindiggs;51633582]I talk with a lot of Trump voters. A lot. They voted because of how the Democratic party acted, how Hillary Clinton berated them personally, because they were sick of the economic state of the country, and because they saw Hillary as a continuation of 30 years of an establishment they thought had created hell. An establishment Dem like Clinton had no chance. Even Sanders' voters abandoned her. Trump was the change candidate AND he had a pulse on what a lot of people were fed up with. Russia didn't need to do anything. Whatever they might have done would have just been icing on the cake for these people. They were really fed up to begin with.[/QUOTE] Yes I agree I have to talk to 20 people to find someone who doesn't support Trump. That's why I said both.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51633605]Yes I agree I have to talk to 20 people to find someone who doesn't support Trump. That's why I said both.[/QUOTE] Right on. I just don't think Russia's influence really mattered. They would have been saying what people were already thinking years ago.

[QUOTE=DuCT;51633594]Are you implying that the RNC was hacked, and that Russia didn't give it to Wikileaks to spread?[/QUOTE] It's a bit unclear but that sounds like it's been the case: [url]http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2016/12/did-russia-hack-rnc-too-heres-what-we-know-so-far/133873/[/url]

[QUOTE=archangel125;51633532]Putin himself is in hot water at the moment. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4sK36cU3Y[/media][/QUOTE] This video has been proven to be wrong.

[QUOTE=Demeschik;51633601]To be fair, state-sponsored trolling and shilling is a real thing in Russia. It's used to undermine liberal media and online discussions and is run by Putin's cronies. Fun stuff.[/QUOTE] Same thing in Poland. There's most likely been a legit shilling campaign from our current gov