• France Begins Expulsion of the Roma
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[I]via: [/I]CNN [release] [B]Paris, France (CNN)[/B] -- France began the controversial expulsion of Roma on Thursday, putting 79 of them on a charter flight out of the country, the spokesman for the French minister of immigration said. The government did not confirm the destination of the flight, but the head of a Roma support group, French media, and the Romanian Foreign Ministry said the plane was heading for Bucharest, Romania. Some Roma already flew out of France in the morning on a commercial flight to Bucharest, according to a spokesman for ROMEUROPE, a support group for Roma in Europe. The Romanian Foreign Ministry said there were 14 people on the earlier flight, for a total of 93 being expelled Thursday. The deportation is part of what the French government says is a crackdown on illegal immigration, and it follows the government's dismantling in the past three weeks of 51 Roma camps that it called illegal. The government is offering 300 euros ($384) to each Roma adult and 100 euros ($128) to each Roma child who accepts the offer for a "voluntary return." Roma are a group of people marked by poverty who live mainly in southern and eastern Europe. Often referred to as Gypsies, they tend to live in camps or caravans and have been persecuted throughout history. Romanian Foreign Minister Teodor Baconschi told Radio France International that he is concerned about the French policy. "I am worried about the risks of populism and xenophobic reactions in a context of economic crisis," Baconschi said. Roma from Romania and Bulgaria are allowed free passage into France if they are European Union citizens. After that, however, they must find work, start studies, or find some other way of becoming established in France or else risk deportation. The French government said those Roma being expelled this week have overstayed the three-month limit. Two more charter flights were scheduled to leave in the next two days, the French Ministry of Immigration said. Friday's flight will have about 100 Roma aboard, a spokesman there said. The vice president of France's Human Rights League, Malik Salemkour, told CNN the expulsion is pointless because the there are no provisions for those being sent away. "Those that still have a house there can go back to it, but a lot of them do not have any shelter in Bulgaria or in Romania, so they are just stranded in Bulgaria or Bucharest for several days," said Salemkour, who is also head of ROMEUROPE. He said the Roma will only return to France in the coming days because that's where they have set up their lives. "Their children are at school here. They want to work here. It's been five, seven, 10 years that they have been living here. And though there have been obstacles, they are going to stay. And it's not fancy policies that are going to solve the problem," he said. Two Romanian secretaries of state plan to be in Paris on August 30 to discuss the integration of Roma populations, the French Foreign Ministry said. It said Paris favors the social integration of the Roma in Romania.[/release] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/19/france.roma/index.html?hpt=Sbin]Source[/url]
They are illegal immigrants. I don't know why people are hating france for it.
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This is disgusting.
Just in time for my trip to france this fall. I'm wondering if it will have that same charm at Notre Dame without being hocked cheap yet dangerous goods and having my pocket picked like the last 3 times.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;24203332]This is disgusting.[/QUOTE] Because they're doing something against illegals?
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;24203332]This is disgusting.[/QUOTE]
What's the difference between this and USA kicking out Mexican Illegal Immigrants? Do it, they're breaking the law.
Don't bring them in Romania for gods sake
certain places should follow this example...
Any-one who has a problem with this needs to get their head examined. That's like saying, "I don't mind this person in my house, even if I ask him to leave he stays, Oh and he also takes my money."
[QUOTE=wanksta11;24203937]Don't bring them in Romania for gods sake[/QUOTE] Sorry bro. They're your problem now.
[quote]The government is offering 300 euros ($384) to each Roma adult and 100 euros ($128) to each Roma child who accepts the offer for a "voluntary return."[/quote] That's nice
[QUOTE=StephenOrlov;24203865]What's the difference between this and USA kicking out Mexican Illegal Immigrants? Do it, they're breaking the law.[/QUOTE] So we should arrest all marijuana users too, right? They're breaking the law as well.
Send them to Mexico
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;24202905]They are illegal immigrants. I don't know why people are hating france for it.[/QUOTE] It's the same as Australia censoring child porn in their county, it's still being made and people are still being hurt. Likewise, they're just moving the illegal immigrants away to be someone elses problem. They could have handled this differently (perhaps some way of integrating them properly). They're not doing anything wrong, but it is still irresponsible.
[QUOTE=JDK721;24208176]So we should arrest all marijuana users too, right? They're breaking the law as well.[/QUOTE] Whoah, talk about logical fallacy. You're implying that hitting the bong is as bad as being a gypsy.
I dunno, gypsies are a nice addition to culture if you ask me. Sure, the criminal ones should be arrested, but arresting someone just for being a gypsy? Hardly seems fair. [editline]11:47PM[/editline] And yes, I call them by their original word, there's nothing wrong with that, you spineless twats!
[QUOTE=Miskav;24208091]Any-one who has a problem with this needs to get their head examined. That's like saying, "I don't mind this person in my house, even if I ask him to leave he stays, Oh and he also takes my money."[/QUOTE] It's nothing like that. You can't compare a country to a house.
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;24208439]Whoah, talk about logical fallacy. You're implying that hitting the bong is as bad as being a gypsy.[/QUOTE] Implying being a gypsy is the problem when it's being a gypsy Illegally.
Also, how are they making sure that it is only gypsies who have overstayed the 3 months without getting a job etc?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84W_aDLId2Q[/media]
So they're kicking illegal aliens out? I'm ok with that.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24209139]So they're kicking illegal aliens out? I'm ok with that.[/QUOTE] But because they are European citizens they can live in any country legally. The only illegal part is if they do not get a job within 3 months. And I doubt EVERY gypsie in France is unemployed.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;24209213]But because they are European citizens they can live in any country legally. The only illegal part is if they do not get a job within 3 months. And I doubt EVERY gypsie in France is unemployed.[/QUOTE] I tend to believe they don't kick all of the Gypsies who aren't French citizens.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24209261]I tend to believe they don't kick all of the Gypsies who aren't French citizens.[/QUOTE] That is probably right. But all these articles make it sound like if you're gypsie you're getting kicked out without checking to see if you're actually legally allowed to be there.
-Meh, on secound thoughts I am dumb
Fuckin' goddamn gypsies
[QUOTE=StephenOrlov;24203865]What's the difference between this and USA kicking out Mexican Illegal Immigrants? Do it, they're breaking the law.[/QUOTE] Because when we do it people start bitching about Arizona being unethical. Ironically a good majority of said people are from Europe or Oceania. I keep my statement with this.... :irony:
[QUOTE=JDK721;24208176]So we should arrest all marijuana users too, right? They're breaking the law as well.[/QUOTE] Just because you think marijuana is okay doesn't make it legal. The same goes for any other multitude of situations. You're breaking the law, you get penalized. That's the entire basis of order. If you want to get the law changed, fine. That'd probably be a good thing. But don't bitch about the government doing their damn job.
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