• Russia frees Ukraine from the tyranny of natural gas
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[url]http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-gazprom-cuts-gas-supplies-ukraine-n469351[/url] [url]http://news.sky.com/story/1593946/russias-gazprom-halts-ukraine-gas-supplies[/url] [quote]MOSCOW — Russia's state-controlled gas company is halting supplies to Ukraine, its chief executive said Wednesday, less than two months after the two countries struck an EU-sponsored deal. Gazprom's CEO Alexei Miller said Russia sent the last shipment to Ukraine at 10 a.m. local time on Wednesday and send no more because Ukraine has not paid in advance for future supplies.[/quote] Looks like its to do with Ukraine not paying again. Hopefully they can get a conclusion ASAP coz people and the economy will suffer. It's in neither's interest that gas line being cut. edit: the overzealous cutting of gas might also be a response for that nationalist attack earlier this month.
Ukraine refused to pay 3 billion bucks, applied more sanctions on trade with Russia, banned Russian flights above Ukraine, increased prices for transporting gas to Europe. All I can say is [b]finally[/b].
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;49183634]Ukraine refused to pay 3 billion bucks, applied more sanctions on trade with Russia, banned Russian flights above Ukraine, increased prices for transporting gas to Europe. All I can say is [b]finally[/b].[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. I know people love giving Russia shit but this is legit. The Ukraine's been bullshitting around this for a LONG time.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;49183688]Pretty much this. I know people love giving Russia shit but this is legit. The Ukraine's been bullshitting around this for a LONG time.[/QUOTE] Sad that the Ukrainian people will suffer for the stupidity of their government. It's in everyone's best interest for gas to flow, Ukrainian's get gas for heating and industry, Russian's get money.
It's bad for everyone, but not a wrong thing to do. If Ukraine doesn't pay for gas then Russia is under no obligation to supply them with anything. Same way Ukraine doesn't have to supply water and electricity to Crimea. If they can work together and help each other out it would be great. However tensions are high and there's a big of hatred from both sides towards the other, so it's not as easy.
It should've been done at least a year ago. Ukraine has not been paying up for about 5 years, no?
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49183744]It should've been done at least a year ago. Ukraine has not been paying up for about 5 years, no?[/QUOTE] "It is not from the benevolence of the Russia that we expect our gas, but from their regard to their own interest." Ukraine's been paying but it also has debts. The deal is they part pay some of the cost up front, its that upfront payment which they've failed to make. Russia has been lenient but Ukraine is in a real mess and has been for ages, Ukraine needs help and not the "Heres an IMF loan" kind of help. Hell if the Ukrainian people suffer from this they will either A ) Blame russia - leading to further break down of relations and hatred B ) Blame the kiev government - adding to unhappiness perhaps causing maiden 3
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;49183688]Pretty much this. I know people love giving Russia shit but this is legit. The Ukraine's been bullshitting around this for a LONG time.[/QUOTE] think you'll find it's just "ukraine", it's not a region in the ussr anymore
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;49183634]Ukraine refused to pay 3 billion bucks, applied more sanctions on trade with Russia, banned Russian flights above Ukraine, increased prices for transporting gas to Europe. All I can say is [b]finally[/b].[/QUOTE] Not much of a fan of Russia's antics, but Ukraine has this coming.
Just you wait, in a week Ukraine find some dosh to pay at least part of debts, and we will loan them some more gas. Just like 2 last times.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;49184054]Just you wait, in a week Ukraine find some dosh to pay at least part of debts, and we will loan them some more gas. Just like 2 last times.[/QUOTE] Will Ukraine every be able to repay its debts? Do you think Russia would every establish some kind of jubilee with them?
its not like ukraine isn't under duress against russia or anything, but if you don't pay yer bills its gonna be cut
Welp. Ukraine will soon become the solar master race of the world. Given that they can no longer rely on combustion fuel. This should be interesting also, is Ukraine still in a state of disarray? you don't hear much about them anymore.
Is it this time of the week again?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;49184187]Is it this time of the week again?[/QUOTE] Like aborigine tribes having sex/trading rituals with metaphorical use of spears; Ukrainians and Russians have a diplomacy/trading rituals with metaphorical use of sanctions, shells and gas shortages.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;49184187]Is it this time of the week again?[/QUOTE] My thoughts exactly. Almost right on schedule
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