• The Battle for Mosul Will Be Live Streamed, With Emoji
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[URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-18/the-battle-for-mosul-will-be-live-streamed-with-emoji?utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-facebook-business"]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-18/the-battle-for-mosul-will-be-live-streamed-with-emoji?utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-facebook-business[/URL] [QUOTE]The picture looked like many others beamed across the world from war zones: plumes of smoke floating above a faraway town, hinting at destruction that remained out of sight. Except this footage had emojis zipping across the bottom of the screen. Surprised. Angry. And thumbs up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Al Jazeera, the Doha-based state-funded broadcaster, and the U.K.’s Channel 4 published the feed from Rudaw on their Facebook pages. Al Jazeera’s live stream had more than 875,000 views. While live streams of the aftermath of attacks are not uncommon, this appears to be one of the first times news organizations are using Facebook Live to broadcast a military operation over an extended period. Broadcasters set up cameras as early as last week in the safest location close to Mosul before zooming in as far as they could, Hemin Lihony, Rudaw’s head of digital portal, said in an email. The cameras are now moved closer each day as forces make further advances, he said. [/QUOTE]
Part of me doesn't like this only because it could give ISIS militants an advantage if they are watching the livestream and know where troops are stationed Just to put this into perspective, the Munich Hostage crisis was compromised when militants were watching the East German channel because they were broadcasting where the German police were planning to enter
While I am sure this has some journalistic merit, this seems to be making a spectacle of modern warfare. I'm not sure this is a very ethical or even a good thing to support, especially since this isn't a game or a competition where everyone goes home at the end. There will be blood, there will be casualties, and it seems awfully disrespectful to the soldiers, and showing a complete disregard for human lives when someone getting blown up by an artillery shell, or a soldier getting shot is accompanied by things like :zing: :ohno: :cry: :dance:
LMAO THIS DUDE EXPLODED 😂😂😂😂😂
[QUOTE=Reviized;51225414]accompanied by things like :zing: :ohno: :cry: :dance:[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/5FrrIgW.png[/img]
I saw the livestream of another news company, I think it was RT. It was 4 hours of military backhoe dancing around on the outskirts of Mosul.
[media]https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/788634318985957376[/media] Doesn't look like anyone got killed. Very close call. :godzing: :goodjob:
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51225608][media]https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/788634318985957376[/media] Doesn't look like anyone got killed. Very close call. :godzing: :goodjob:[/QUOTE] Wow, they had humvees or mraps when they can take it out from a distance but decides to detonate the device from 2 meters
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51225681]Wow, they had humvees or mraps when they can take it out from a distance but decides to detonate the device from 2 meters[/QUOTE] i think they were trying to capture the isis dude (or maybe just finish him off because they shoot him at the start before he explodes) and were generally not giving two shits. the best part is when they regain composure in 3 seconds and gather round back again to check out the exploded dude which is pretty much as dangerous.
[QUOTE=Falchion;51225741]i think they were trying to capture the isis dude (or maybe just finish him off because they shoot him at the start before he explodes) and were generally not giving two shits. the best part is when they regain composure in 3 seconds and gather round back again to check out the exploded dude which is pretty much as dangerous.[/QUOTE] That distance would cause some serious shell shock to those two who were almost inside of it. They look fine from a distance but they're probably not thinking right.
[QUOTE=Elstumpo;51225774]That distance would cause some serious shell shock to those two who were almost inside of it. They look fine from a distance but they're probably not thinking right.[/QUOTE] And the danger of shrapnel turning into bullets. Thankfully this was a less average made bombvest, and could be far worse.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51225373]Part of me doesn't like this only because it could give ISIS militants an advantage if they are watching the livestream and know where troops are stationed Just to put this into perspective, the Munich Hostage crisis was compromised when militants were watching the East German channel because they were broadcasting where the German police were planning to enter[/QUOTE] Ban them for stream-sniping.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51225608][media]https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/788634318985957376[/media] Doesn't look like anyone got killed. Very close call. :godzing: :goodjob:[/QUOTE] I hope those ISIS fighters, who are doing this presumably for religious reasons and just general insanity, are really proud of the fact that one of their fighters blew himself up on camera, which was broadcasting to the entire world, and in addition to him accomplishing nothing of importance for the act: Contributed to the desensitization of violence in western media as we all either had no reaction at all, or the more immature probably laughed, or at least snorted at this man's demise. Really makes you feel like war is worth it. Doesn't it? What blatant waste of human life.
[QUOTE=goon165;51226039]I hope those ISIS fighters, who are doing this presumably for religious reasons and just general insanity, are really proud of the fact that one of their fighters blew himself up on camera, which was broadcasting to the entire world, and in addition to him accomplishing nothing of importance for the act: Contributed to the desensitization of violence in western media as we all either had no reaction at all, or the more immature probably laughed, or at least snorted at this man's demise. Really makes you feel like war is worth it. Doesn't it? What blatant waste of human life.[/QUOTE] Wow you're so deep [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shit Posting" - UncleJimmema))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;51226145]Wow you're so deep[/QUOTE] Shut the hell up How is what he is saying wrong? Please explain that without giving the "lol ur so deep dude did you take a philosophy course in college" response I fucking hate it when people just say that when someone gives a thoughtful, thought provoking response to some sort of issue. Is being thoughtful a bad thing? Why do you try and punish people for thinking like that?
[QUOTE=goon165;51226039]I hope those ISIS fighters, who are doing this presumably for religious reasons and just general insanity, are really proud of the fact that one of their fighters blew himself up on camera, which was broadcasting to the entire world, and in addition to him accomplishing nothing of importance for the act: Contributed to the desensitization of violence in western media as we all either had no reaction at all, or the more immature probably laughed, or at least snorted at this man's demise. Really makes you feel like war is worth it. Doesn't it? What blatant waste of human life.[/QUOTE] Hey I think watching ISIS fighters uselessly turn themselves into shredded pieces of cloth and meat is hilarious but I guess I'm an immature child too.
[QUOTE=shadowdude14;51226257]Shut the hell up How is what he is saying wrong? Please explain that without giving the "lol ur so deep dude did you take a philosophy course in college" response I fucking hate it when people just say that when someone gives a thoughtful, thought provoking response to some sort of issue. Is being thoughtful a bad thing? Why do you try and punish people for thinking like that?[/QUOTE] People respond that way to make themselves look above and smarter. They mock what others say by saying "oh wow so deep" or "im 14 and this is deep" to anything that isnt a rehashed "oh this situation is bad" posts and lame predictable puns that you see regularly posted in SH threads. They do it to make it seem like they are so much more better for not having their own individual response so they put down others for speaking their minds and giving more insight. The best thing they could post is "wow you are so deep" because they couldnt think anything better to say so putting down the guy will distract and make his post seem more unworthy. It's pretty pathetic tbh. [editline]19th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51226291]Hey I think watching ISIS fighters uselessly turn themselves into shredded pieces of cloth and meat is hilarious but I guess I'm an immature child too.[/QUOTE] Yeah you are. Edit- if you been in a warzone like I have you wouldnt think its funny at all. Its depressing, scary and morbid. If you laugh at this you are no better then those lames in /b/ laughinh at kids dying.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51225608][media]https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/788634318985957376[/media] Doesn't look like anyone got killed. Very close call. :godzing: :goodjob:[/QUOTE] That one guy in the middle gave such a, "Wait, I'm alive? WTF??" kind of gesture with his hands after unloading his magazine.
Yeah no. If anyone wanted to embed [i]live streaming[/i] journalists with my unit, I'd tell them where to go. Perfectly within their rights to do so as well, if you ask me, regardless of who's ordering you otherwise. We've spent the last 20 years developing Comint procedures for Iraq and Afghanistan and what does ISIS get? [url]www.wherearemyenemies.com[/url]. Fuck that.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51225608][media]https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/788634318985957376[/media] Doesn't look like anyone got killed. Very close call. :godzing: :goodjob:[/QUOTE] So, the thing is that that ISIS fight was actually in a fighting hole. You can see how his body is eject off towards the right side. Plus taking frames from the video you can see the intial explosion is coming from the ground rather than from a body being above ground. [img]http://puu.sh/rOgIo/fb715f05a0.png[/img] So the majority of any if not all possible shrapnel and most of the force was absorbed by the ground rather than getting any of the Pesh soldiers, still be gnarly being near one of those though.
[QUOTE=goon165;51226039]I hope those ISIS fighters, who are doing this presumably for religious reasons and just general insanity, are really proud of the fact that one of their fighters blew himself up on camera, which was broadcasting to the entire world, and in addition to him accomplishing nothing of importance for the act: Contributed to the desensitization of violence in western media as we all either had no reaction at all, or the more immature probably laughed, or at least snorted at this man's demise. Really makes you feel like war is worth it. Doesn't it? What blatant waste of human life.[/QUOTE] they probably see it as a sort of last stand from him, also Islamic terrorists often dont actually care about living or dying since if they die during jihad, they automatically go to heaven and get their 72 virgins and such
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51225373]Part of me doesn't like this only because it could give ISIS militants an advantage if they are watching the livestream and know where troops are stationed Just to put this into perspective, the Munich Hostage crisis was compromised when militants were watching the East German channel because they were broadcasting where the German police were planning to enter[/QUOTE] Despite having such a large advantages for the past 2 when the ISF and Peshmerga had announced offensives and had live coverage of the battles ISIS really never capitalized on it. Because being they're so big that it'd be hard to really coordinate many of the assaults rather than a small group of players watching live coverage from TV. Delayed broadcast might make current positions and locations unreliable, some of the villages and cities they had had power cut and couldn't watch TV. Finally ISIS is just terribly incompetent as a defending force. See Hit,Baji,Tikrit,Ramadi, and Fallujah. A lot of those had live coverage from TV, but ISIS couldn't use it as well they could because en massing fighters to any such district usually was met by a US bomb.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51226430]they probably see it as a sort of last stand from him, also Islamic terrorists often dont actually care about living or dying since if they die during jihad, they automatically go to heaven and [B]get their 72 virgins and such[/B][/QUOTE] Can we just stop this myth already? Even most Jihadist at this point know that's bullshit.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51226501]Can we just stop this myth already? Even most Jihadist at this point know that's bullshit.[/QUOTE] hold on there pal are you one of those isis sympathisers or something? everyone knows the statistical majority of them fight for religious reasons, never use drugs, drink or smoke sustaining themselves solely on heavenly fervor and follow quran to the letter so that they may earn their 72 virgin goats in heaven
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;51226145]Wow you're so deep[/QUOTE] Boy do I miss the days where quoting a well thought out response for a halfassed attempt at a zinger would get you a nice hefty ban Fuck off, dude. You're part of the reason post quality has degraded dramatically in the past few years.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51226501]Can we just stop this myth already? Even most Jihadist at this point know that's bullshit.[/QUOTE] ISIS fighters are fanatical in their deaths though, believing the whole salvation through martyrdom is heavily used in their propaganda. 72 Virgins thing might just be a entertainment trope but if you ever watched a video showing of an ISIS suicide bomber is very much a religious ceremony because he knows and they know that he will die. They give them a clean shave, they wash themselves, many of them recite prayers and say their good byes. These guys are them considered heroes because they martyred themselves in the heat of battle to kill the kufar. [url]http://heavy.com/news/2016/02/isis-father-says-goodbye-to-suicide-bomber-son-youtube-video/[/url] Around 6 minutes in this video. [url]http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/new-isis-islamic-state-news-pictures-videos-victory-from-allah-and-an-imminent-conquest-part-3-al-khayr-iraq-syria-full-uncensored-youtube/[/url]
I'm talking about [B]72 virgins myth[/B] being nonsense, not that ISIS fighters are not religious zealots. You guys are literary misinterpreting what I'm talking about. I don't even know where did you get the idea I said ISIS are not religious zealots.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;51226530]Boy do I miss the days where quoting a well thought out response for a halfassed attempt at a zinger would get you a nice hefty ban Fuck off, dude. You're part of the reason post quality has degraded dramatically in the past few years.[/QUOTE] I think post quality has gone up again somewhat since the removal of ratings [unpopular opinion klaxon] Topic: Seems a bit voyeuristic to me. I'm certainly not squeamish about war or killing, but this is a whole different thing.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51226302]People respond that way to make themselves look above and smarter. They mock what others say by saying "oh wow so deep" or "im 14 and this is deep" to anything that isnt a rehashed "oh this situation is bad" posts and lame predictable puns that you see regularly posted in SH threads. They do it to make it seem like they are so much more better for not having their own individual response so they put down others for speaking their minds and giving more insight. The best thing they could post is "wow you are so deep" because they couldnt think anything better to say so putting down the guy will distract and make his post seem more unworthy. It's pretty pathetic tbh. [editline]19th October 2016[/editline] Yeah you are. Edit- if you been in a warzone like I have you wouldnt think its funny at all. Its depressing, scary and morbid. If you laugh at this you are no better then those lames in /b/ laughinh at kids dying.[/QUOTE] As a personal anecdote I was watching the same videos with a few of my buddies who've been in actual combat and found them equally hilarious. Your experience doesn't necessarily ring true for everyone who's been deployed to a warzone.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51226544]I'm talking about [B]72 virgins myth[/B] being nonsense, not that ISIS fighters are not religious zealots. You guys are literary misinterpreting what I'm talking about. I don't even know where did you get the idea I said ISIS are not religious zealots.[/QUOTE] wikiislam disagrees with you [URL="https://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins"]https://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins[/URL] i just found out that wikislam is anti islamic so im adding another source [URL="http://www.justaskislam.com/5/72-virgins-in-heaven/"]http://www.justaskislam.com/5/72-virgins-in-heaven/[/URL] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri#The_houris_in_the_Sunni_Hadith"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri#The_houris_in_the_Sunni_Hadith[/URL] long story short it seems like sunni believe in 72 virgins while shia don't, ISIS is sunni so it's accurate
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