[url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/14/kevorkian.gupta/index.html[/url]
[quote]Ann Arbor, Michigan (CNN) -- There haven't been many times when I have been at a loss for words when conducting an interview as a medical reporter. This was one of those moments.
The man cleared his throat, after ignoring the question I just asked him. "You want to know what I think?" he said loudly.
"I do," I replied.
"Is that what this is about -- you want to know how I really feel, what makes me tick?" he said even louder.
I nodded as calmly as I could.
"Let me tell you something," his voice trailed off. He paused and looked momentarily distracted. He gave a long, hard look at his lawyer, who was standing right behind me. He shivered a little bit and bunched up his powder blue sweater.
"I have no regrets, none whatsoever," he said. It was windy outside, but it was also over 90 degrees in sunny Ann Arbor, Michigan. I was now sweating, and he was ... well, cold.[/quote]
doctor assisted suicide~
I hope he gets out of this mess.
I feel bad for this man, he doesn't do anything bad at all. His patients wanted to die, he helped them do it. It's better than jumping off of a building, or slamming your car into a wall at 150 mph.
Or a psychotic polack who decides smashing his car into the wooden storefront of my father's bar.
[QUOTE=Pantz76;22967997]Or a psychotic polack who decides smashing his car into the wooden storefront of my father's bar.[/QUOTE]
What does this have to do with anything
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;22968074]What does this have to do with anything[/QUOTE]
the poor fellow is senile, let him be :(
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;22967854]I feel bad for this man, he doesn't do anything bad at all. His patients wanted to die, he helped them do it. It's better than jumping off of a building, or slamming your car into a wall at 150 mph.[/QUOTE]
I believe if a people consigns to be euthanasia, they have the right to go ahead and do it. The fact is, it seems as if the American government constrains on our rights every moment. And Dr Kevorkian has very good points. The 9th amendment is rarely upheld. The sad fact is, most Americans don't know anything past the 5th amendment.
[quote=Dr Kevorkian]...our culture of overabundance will soon lead to the extinction of the human race.[/quote]
This is also true. We can see the demise in our culture, our attitudes and progression. Our only fuel seems to be our "overabundance" requirements. We always seek capital gain in our all deeds. Do something, and expect a reward. We no longer know what charity is, or philanthropy (Well, a few still recognize these, and practice it). This is what happens when you live on a society based on material good. Not too long ago, there was a news report on how doing things for "free" often results in a better quality product. Doing something for the greater good, instead of the bigger house, nicer car, or all the hip gadgets.
To sum things up, we really have a dead end road here unless we revolutionize our ways. Dr Kavorkian is a good guy, with a good head. What we may see as a sin to take the lives from someone, then put down your bible and see everything in different lights. We all have our rights, our beliefs. If I wanted to die, and throw away life, I feel like we all have that choice. In turn, we are on a sharp decline, a devolution of the human race. Why live it through? Take the gamble and admit the defeat?
If it's "ok'ed" by the patient I'm fine with it.
If the guy is going to die in a few weeks and is in extreme pain why the hell not? It goes back to what people perceive to be "moral" and how that dictates society.
I always wondered if their organs were used after they died.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;22969333]I always wondered if their organs were used after they died.[/QUOTE]
That would depend on if they wanted to be an organ donor or not. Plus, if a person's body is in a huge suffering state like this, chances are their organs won't be usable.
As much as I don't want to believe it, America really does sound a lot like a slave nation, although one obfuscated to the point where it doesn't seem so.
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;22969376]That would depend on if they wanted to be an organ donor or not. Plus, if a person's body is in a huge suffering state like this, chances are their organs won't be usable.[/QUOTE]
It really seems that if there were a place where people could commit suicide and their bodies be utilized for everything possible, a lot of organs could be produced for those who need them.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;22968580]If it's "ok'ed" by the patient I'm fine with it.
If the guy is going to die in a few weeks and is in extreme pain why the hell not? It goes back to what people perceive to be "moral" and how that dictates society.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this statement. They should also give the organs to people who need them. I mean, what the fuck are you gonna do with them when you're dead. Be a greedy bastard?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;22969485]It really seems that if there were a place where people could commit suicide and their bodies be utilized for everything possible, a lot of organs could be produced for those who need them.[/QUOTE]
like that facility in Soylent Green but with less cannibalism
[QUOTE=Pantz76;22967997]Or a psychotic polack who decides smashing his car into the wooden storefront of my father's bar.[/QUOTE]
It's all fun and games until a suicidal Polak decided to crash his vehicle into the front of my father's bar in an attempt to end his own life.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;22969485]It really seems that if there were a place where people could commit suicide and their bodies be utilized for everything possible, a lot of organs could be produced for those who need them.[/QUOTE]
As questionably moral as that would be, I think it should happen. If you hate your life and want to leave it, you might as well save the lives of other people who wish they could remain alive, but are unable to due to some condition.
they made a documentary on him, not sure if any of you saw it but it's quite informative
That news article is beautifully written. Very engaging.
A true fighter right here. I salute him and his wisdom.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;22970593]they made a documentary on him, not sure if any of you saw it but it's quite informative[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132623/]You Don't Know Jack[/url]. I really enjoyed it.
I live in Oregon and we're the first state in the Union that allows for Doctor Assisted Suicide (Washington recently allowed for it). Honestly, it's a great idea. You're given the choice if you wish to kill yourself, all you need is for your doctor and 2 other doctors (who act as outside consultants) to agree that you're dying and they'll sign you off with the deadly prescription. Then it's just a matter of finding a pharmacist who will fill that prescription, but if your current one refuses they are required to tell you where you'll find one who will fill it. Many abortion pro choicers say, "my body, my choice" while the opposition will argue that it isn't really their body. That argument does not apply for this. You encroach on nobodies rights by ending your own life, only excersizing your right to die.
What's with the ~til~de~, OP?
I fully support Kevorkian. If I wanted to die but couldn't do it myself, I'd be pissed, even moreso when the government takes my right of death away from me. The movie Johnny Got His Gun really exemplifies this.
I'm all for euthanasia. Nobody should have to die in pain.
This man is the closes figure, going out of his way to help his patients. I watched the video based on his story 2 months ago.
I think the video title is "Do don't know Jack"
He's a good man, and he's done nothing wrong. I wish him well, and support him in his endeavors.
[QUOTE=Dark Kite;22971401]I live in Oregon and we're the first state in the Union that allows for Doctor Assisted Suicide (Washington recently allowed for it). Honestly, it's a great idea. You're given the choice if you wish to kill yourself, all you need is for your doctor and 2 other doctors (who act as outside consultants) to agree that you're dying and they'll sign you off with the deadly prescription. Then it's just a matter of finding a pharmacist who will fill that prescription, but if your current one refuses they are required to tell you where you'll find one who will fill it. Many abortion pro choicers say, "my body, my choice" while the opposition will argue that it isn't really their body. That argument does not apply for this. You encroach on nobodies rights by ending your own life, only excersizing your right to die.[/QUOTE]
Do they give you any sort of psychoanalysis before they allow it? It's a bit worrying if someone can just go in, ask for suicide and have it happen within the week (in case they're acting on impulse). I doubt it's that simple though.
[QUOTE=CivilProtection;22972213]Do they give you any sort of psychoanalysis before they allow it? It's a bit worrying if someone can just go in, ask for suicide and have it happen within the week (in case they're acting on impulse). I doubt it's that simple though.[/QUOTE]
Anything that has to do with suicide like that has to go through a lot of bureaucracy to get approved I would assume.
[QUOTE=CivilProtection;22972213]Do they give you any sort of psychoanalysis before they allow it? It's a bit worrying if someone can just go in, ask for suicide and have it happen within the week (in case they're acting on impulse). I doubt it's that simple though.[/QUOTE]
You have to be terminal.
People in a certain state of mind shouldn't be allowed to make the decision any more than they can in every other medical circumstance.
The obvious exception being that if they are terminal, in which case it should probably be their call (depending on family and what not).
The biggest complaint I heard was from some respected physician in New York, who argued that the violation of the Hyppocratic Oath was more severe then any broken law or mandate.
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