Havard Study Confirms Flouride (commonly added to tap water) Reduces Child IQ
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[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html[/url]
[img]http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2013-01-15-waterfluoridationfacts.jpg[/img]
From the report itself:
[quote] A recent report from the U.S. National Research Council (NRC 2006) concluded that adverse effects of high fluoride concentrations in drinking water may be of concern and that additional research is warranted. Fluoride may cause neurotoxicity in laboratory animals, including effects on learning and memory ...
To summarize the available literature, we performed a systematic review and meta-analysis of published studies on increased fluoride exposure in drinking water and neurodevelopmental delays. We specifically targeted studies carried out in rural China that have not been widely disseminated, thus complementing the studies that have been included in previous reviews and risk assessment reports ...
Findings from our meta-analyses of 27 studies published over 22 years suggest an inverse association between high fluoride exposure and children's intelligence ... The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults ...
Serum-fluoride concentrations associated with high intakes from drinking-water may exceed 1 mg/L, or 50 Smol/L, thus more than 1000-times the levels of some other neurotoxicants that cause neurodevelopmental damage. Supporting the plausibility of our findings, rats exposed to 1 ppm (50 Smol/L) of water-fluoride for one year showed morphological alterations in the brain and increased levels of aluminum in brain tissue compared with controls ...
In conclusion, our results support the possibility of adverse effects of fluoride exposures on children's neurodevelopment. Future research should formally evaluate dose-response relations based on individual-level measures of exposure over time, including more precise prenatal exposure assessment and more extensive standardized measures of neurobehavioral performance, in addition to improving assessment and control of potential confounders. [/quote]
So instead of blaming the real issue, which is a combination of terrible public education and a lack of discipline at home, we're instead blaming flouride in the water? Again? Fucking hell society is stupid. Flouride has been in the water for decades, if it caused any serious issues it wouldn't be used anymore. It didn't take us long at all to figure out that lead plumbing = lead poisoning, after all.
IQ isn't even that important anyway. Or accurate. You can have an IQ of 155 and still be dumber than a bag of dicks.
We have lead pipes in our house
I don't understand this
[QUOTE=TestECull;39460279]Flouride has been in the water for decades, if it caused any serious issues it wouldn't be used anymore. It didn't take us long at all to figure out that lead plumbing = lead poisoning, after all.[/QUOTE]
[quote]additional research is warranted[/quote]
well, i suppose we could do more research, or we could just assume everything is ok because there's no chance it isn't
also, lead was used since roman times, and has only been banned relatively recently
[editline]3rd February 2013[/editline]
so that's like what, roughly two thousand years that it took us to work that one out
Luckily, I was raised in Oregon where they don't add fluoride to the water!!!
[QUOTE=TestECull;39460279]So instead of blaming the real issue, which is a combination of terrible public education and a lack of discipline at home, we're instead blaming flouride in the water? Again? Fucking hell society is stupid. Flouride has been in the water for decades, if it caused any serious issues it wouldn't be used anymore. It didn't take us long at all to figure out that lead plumbing = lead poisoning, after all.
IQ isn't even that important anyway. Or accurate. You can have an IQ of 155 and still be dumber than a bag of dicks.[/QUOTE]
#realtalk
I've drunk nothing but tap water my whole life.
Alex Jones was right :tinfoil:
explains why my speeling si getin wrsoe
Don't drink the water.
heh public water schmucks
ive drank from well water for all of my life
Hah, I knew only drinking coke is good for me.
I just buy jugs of water and refill them because our tap here has so much fluoride it tastes like utter shit.
the solution is to drink only soda
[QUOTE=Bubz;39460415]Don't drink the water.[/QUOTE]
I forgot how I even got here...
[QUOTE=Garik;39460429]Hah, I knew only drinking coke is good for me.[/QUOTE]
coke gives me minor acne, but at least i'm smart
I only really drink filtered water tbh; started when I was younger, nowadays I just drink it out of habit.
Now, even if fluoride in the water is a factor in hampering child learning, poor educational standards (if we had standards we wouldn't teach creationism) and lousy parenting are also prominent factors; probably greater than simple neurotoxic fluoride supplements. I forget if UK uses fluoride extensively, but since I use a water filter jug I don't usually absorb so much of that stuff.
According to wikipedia my country rejected the idea of adding fluoride to public water (aka council juice).
[QUOTE=Ericson666;39460395]Alex Jones was right :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] Yeah he totally is right! Just like the government is putting female hormones in juice boxes, 9/11 was an inside job, The Sandy Hook shooting was fake and staged by the US Government as a motive to take away our guns, and just overall Globalist takeover. :tinfoil: (Obvious immense sarcasm here, Alex Jones is a conspiracy theory nutjob)
Lol we sell fluoride enriched bottled water for children at kroger
Huffington Post is so biased, it is not even funny anymore. What kind of an "infographic" is that if this is supposed to be a serious and impartial news outlet?
I've read the article in question, and I highly doubt anyone with any proper scientific education did the same over at Huffington.
Here is the link: [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/[/url]
And now a few direct quotes from the paper:
"A recent experimental study where the rat hippocampal neurons were [B]incubated[/B] with various concentrations [B](20 mg/L, 40 mg/L, and 80 mg/L) of sodium fluoride in vitro[/B] showed that fluoride neurotoxicity may target hippocampal neurons "
"Opportunities for epidemiological studies depend on the existence of comparable population groups exposed to different levels of fluoride from drinking water. [B]Such circumstances are difficult to find in many industrialized countries, because fluoride concentrations in community water are usually no higher than 1 mg/L, even when fluoride is added to water supplies as a public health measure to reduce tooth decay.[/B] Multiple epidemiological studies of [B]developmental fluoride neurotoxicity were conducted in China because of the high fluoride concentrations that are substantially above 1 mg/L in well water in many rural communities[/B]"
"Although acute fluoride poisoning may be neurotoxic to adults, most of the epidemiological information available on associations with children’s neurodevelopment is from China, [B]where fluoride generally occurs in drinking water as a natural contaminant, and the concentration depends on local geological conditions.[/B]"
The most striking one, in my opinion:
"To summarize the available literature, we performed a systematic review and meta-analysis of published studies on increased fluoride exposure in drinking water associated with neurodevelopmental delays. [B]We specifically targeted studies carried out in rural China that have not been widely disseminated[/B], thus complementing the studies that have been included in previous reviews and risk assessment reports."
The paper basically looks at the neurodevelopmental delays that might be associated with high levels of fluoride exposure, with a specific focus on China where there are regions of significant fluoride levels in the water. This was not directed at water fluoridation campaigns, the whole article is mangled and sensationalised beyond belief. In a normal household fluoride poisoning from eating too much toothpaste is a more likely occurrence for fluoride poisoning ([url]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1752-7325.1997.tb02966.x/abstract;jsessionid=4D72E912DC620359CF530D0424D77AF5.d01t02[/url]).
[QUOTE=TestECull;39460279]So instead of blaming the real issue, which is a combination of terrible public education and a lack of discipline at home, we're instead blaming flouride in the water? Again? Fucking hell society is stupid. Flouride has been in the water for decades, if it caused any serious issues it wouldn't be used anymore. It didn't take us long at all to figure out that lead plumbing = lead poisoning, after all.
IQ isn't even that important anyway. Or accurate. You can have an IQ of 155 and still be dumber than a bag of dicks.[/QUOTE]
Really dude? Look at the studies, flouride is harmful, no one is trying to deny that lack of eduation or discipline at home have any effect over peoples intelligence. It's just stating that flouride does-
"Findings from our meta-analyses of 27 studies published over 22 years suggest an inverse association between high fluoride exposure and children's intelligence ... The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults ... ".
Are you also ignoring the other health concerns like dental health? :s
[QUOTE=locojaws;39460371]Luckily, I was raised in Oregon where they don't add fluoride to the water!!![/QUOTE]
Yes, and yet you've come out just as if they had.
i've drank mostly purified water (besides drinking fountains) but it's not like that fucking matters because this is extremely stupid
So... it's a thinktank that performed an analysis of other peoples data on two unrelated subjects and came to a conclusion based on that.
Hmm. I'm not too convinced.
Meh, it's better than getting illnesses from my water.
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