Washington Post rules out endorsing 'threat to democracy' Donald Trump in brutal full-page editorial - Polidicks

[t]http://i.imgur.com/brSK7wR.jpg[/t] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/22/washington-post-editorial-calls-trump-unique-danger-democracy/87456028/[/url] [quote]The Washington Post dispensed with traditional niceties Friday and issued a [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-a-unique-threat-to-american-democracy/2016/07/22/a6d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?postshare=6571469217990690&tid=ss_tw]scathing editorial[/url] calling Donald Trump "uniquely unqualified" to be president and a "unique threat to American democracy." The paper's editorial board said it was issuing the unusual condemnation the day after Trump accepted the Republican nomination because "we cannot salute the Republican nominee or pretend that we might endorse him this fall. A Trump presidency would be dangerous for the nation and the world." Trump, the Post said, has "contempt for the Constitution" and his candidacy poses "a challenge the nation must confront and overcome."[/quote] The Post was never going to endorse Trump of course, but to publicly rule him out and issue such a vicious condemnation of him and his entire campaign this early on in the election is quite some shit. Notably they did [I]not[/I] endorse Hillary Clinton, but said: [quote]The [I][Republican][/I] party’s failure of judgment leaves the nation’s future where it belongs, in the hands of voters. Many Americans do not like either candidate this year . We have criticized the presumptive Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, in the past and will do so again when warranted. But we do not believe that she (or the Libertarian and Green party candidates, for that matter) represents a threat to the Constitution. Mr. Trump is a unique and present danger.[/quote]

Read the original article. Check the sources. Check the facts. If you still support Donald after that, you're just doing so to watch the world burn. Donald Trump wants to destabalize the country in an effort and bid to use his wealth, and the wealth of his backers to reshape the "democracy" in america. If you don't think that's the case, or you think i'm a fucking lunatic for thinking he's playing the long game here, too bad, just start thinking about who's behind him, why, and what kind of person he honestly is. He doesn't want to help any of you. He doesn't even care about you in the slightest. This is about him, him, him.

here's a thought - if Trump being president scares you, go out and vote for the other candidate. don't assume everything will be fine, that's how we got brexit. many, many people will be completely silent about their support for Trump, as they were with their support for leaving the EU don't let 2016 be the worst year

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50757779]Read the original article. Check the sources. Check the facts. If you still support Donald after that, you're just doing so to watch the world burn. Donald Trump wants to destabalize the country in an effort and bid to use his wealth, and the wealth of his backers to reshape the "democracy" in america. If you don't think that's the case, or you think i'm a fucking lunatic for thinking he's playing the long game here, too bad, just start thinking about who's behind him, why, and what kind of person he honestly is. He doesn't want to help any of you. He doesn't even care about you in the slightest. This is about him, him, him.[/QUOTE] No but he wants to #makeamericagreatagain though

[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;50757801]No but he wants to #makeamericagreatagain though[/QUOTE] #makemypocketsfullagain

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50757779]Read the original article. Check the sources. Check the facts. If you still support Donald after that, you're just doing so to watch the world burn. Donald Trump wants to destabalize the country in an effort and bid to use his wealth, and the wealth of his backers to reshape the "democracy" in america. If you don't think that's the case, or you think i'm a fucking lunatic for thinking he's playing the long game here, too bad, just start thinking about who's behind him, why, and what kind of person he honestly is. He doesn't want to help any of you. He doesn't even care about you in the slightest. This is about him, him, him.[/QUOTE] all your posting and you haven't addressed the most important reason to vote for trump: he has the rarest pepes. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50757779]Read the original article. Check the sources. Check the facts. If you still support Donald after that, you're just doing so to watch the world burn. Donald Trump wants to destabalize the country in an effort and bid to use his wealth, and the wealth of his backers to reshape the "democracy" in america. If you don't think that's the case, or you think i'm a fucking lunatic for thinking he's playing the long game here, too bad, just start thinking about who's behind him, why, and what kind of person he honestly is. He doesn't want to help any of you. He doesn't even care about you in the slightest. This is about him, him, him.[/QUOTE] But he's good with the economy! He successfully played bankruptcies in order to boost his own worth, sinking his own companies for profit! That means that he's going to do everything he can to boost the American economy, even if it costs him! Why are you saying he'd sabotage it for his own gain, he wouldn't do that! :downs:

[quote]If you still support Donald after that, you're just doing so to watch the world burn. [/quote] I better grab my sunglasses then because as a lower-class citizen I could barely care what happens next door because it will never affect how hard I already work simply to pay bills, own a used car and live in a basement. Only the most wealthy individuals and business will take a hit directly and many of those are already propped up with massive amounts of cash simply because their collapse alone would cause a destabilization anyways. It needs to be rebuilt properly and both Bush and Obama on their own proved the country was simply so dysfunctional that it could barely accomplish anything. It can't even effectively enforce federal law in some of the states. It pretty much stalemated once the Republicans took control of the house. While it will be nothing short of a global disaster we all know it will happen one way or another anyways, so lets just vote him in so we can be a little more humane and take it behind the barn to be put down.

[QUOTE=pentium;50757997]I better grab my sunglasses then because as a lower-class citizen I could barely care what happens next door because it will never affect how hard I already work simply to pay bills, own a used car and live in a basement. Only the most wealthy individuals and business will take a hit directly and many of those are already propped up with massive amounts of cash simply because their collapse alone would cause a destabilization anyways. It needs to be rebuilt properly and both Bush and Obama on their own proved the country was simply so dysfunctional that it could barely accomplish anything. It can't even effectively enforce federal law in some of the states. It pretty much stalemated once the Republicans took control of the house. While it will be nothing short of a global disaster we all know it will happen one way or another anyways, so lets just vote him in so we can be a little more humane and take it behind the barn to be put down.[/QUOTE] The amount this will affect you compared to billionaires is massive. They won't notice or care, you will.

[QUOTE=pentium;50757997]I better grab my sunglasses then because as a lower-class citizen I could barely care what happens next door because it will never affect how hard I already work simply to pay bills, own a used car and live in a basement. Only the most wealthy individuals and business will take a hit directly and many of those are already propped up with massive amounts of cash simply because their collapse alone would cause a destabilization anyways. It needs to be rebuilt properly and both Bush and Obama on their own proved the country was simply so dysfunctional that it could barely accomplish anything. It can't even effectively enforce federal law in some of the states. It pretty much stalemated once the Republicans took control of the house. While it will be nothing short of a global disaster we all know it will happen one way or another anyways, so lets just vote him in so we can be a little more humane and take it behind the barn to be put down.[/QUOTE] because the best way to bring down an oligarchy is to vote for an oligarch

[QUOTE=pentium;50757997]I better grab my sunglasses then because as a lower-class citizen I could barely care what happens next door because it will never affect how hard I already work simply to pay bills, own a used car and live in a basement.[/QUOTE] Wow you really are detached from the real world aren't you? Should Trump become president of the United States, his eventual failure as a president will cause some form of economic turmoil. Canada kinda needs the US as a trading partner, much like most of the world. Losing them is going to impact [I]everybody[/I]. Not just "the elite". It'll cause even more uncertainty than the fucking shitfest that is Brexit ever could, causing a variety of companies to consider closing up shop if costs start to rise. No matter where you are on the ladder, as long as you're not homeless you'll feel it when the USA suffers a monstrous economic collapse. Brexit hasn't even happened and the UK economy is fucking suffering something fierce because of the uncertainty scaring our trading partners. Now imagine the uncertainty inside those partner countries if we actually just vanished in the space of a week.

it won't even be a "global disaster" things will carry on just getting worse, but faster [editline]23rd July 2016[/editline] it will be like brexit: initial shock and horror, then calming down, thinking it's not that bad, then realising that you've just cooked up a real stinker of a problem that's going to make your life worse progressively and gradually for the foreseeable future [editline]23rd July 2016[/editline] I also don't want to get into how fucking bad it'll be for anyone who's a racial or gender/sexual minority, think literally feeling unsafe every time you go outside because of emboldened lunatics

the "law and order" candidate who wants to put an end to protesting, no matter what the police do why would anyone vote for such a police-state candidate?

[QUOTE=pentium;50757997]I better grab my sunglasses then because as a lower-class citizen I could barely care what happens next door because it will never affect how hard I already work simply to pay bills, own a used car and live in a basement. Only the most wealthy individuals and business will take a hit directly and many of those are already propped up with massive amounts of cash simply because their collapse alone would cause a destabilization anyways. It needs to be rebuilt properly and both Bush and Obama on their own proved the country was simply so dysfunctional that it could barely accomplish anything. It can't even effectively enforce federal law in some of the states. It pretty much stalemated once the Republicans took control of the house. While it will be nothing short of a global disaster we all know it will happen one way or another anyways, so lets just vote him in so we can be a little more humane and take it behind the barn to be put down.[/QUOTE] I feel like this last generation produced the absolute worst set of voters ever.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50758089]I feel like this last generation produced the absolute worst set of voters ever.[/QUOTE] poverty makes people insane

[QUOTE=bitches;50758087]the "law and order" candidate who wants to put an end to protesting, no matter what the police do why would anyone vote for such a police-state candidate?[/QUOTE] It's disturbing how much freedom loving americans crave a dictator.

Yeah but you don't get it you fucking islamist cucks! He tells it like it is! #nofilter!!! I have not seen a single Trump supporter actually explain why they like him outside of bullshit populist rhetoric and soundbites. Any attempts to discuss policy are futile as he doesn't [I]have[/I] policy, he just has vague ideas with no rhyme or reason behind half of them, and no plan to implement them behind the rest.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;50758122]Yeah but you don't get it you fucking islamist cucks! He tells it like it is! #nofilter!!! I have not seen a single Trump supporter actually explain why they like him outside of bullshit populist rhetoric and soundbites. Any attempts to discuss policy are futile as he doesn't [I]have[/I] policy, he just has vague ideas with no rhyme or reason behind half of them, and no plan to implement them behind the rest.[/QUOTE] he does actually have policies - they're just completely fucking insane [url]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall[/url]

Jesus this is a brutal roast of Donald. I can't see how anyone sane would defend him after this to be honest. Only a massive amount of mental gymnastics would allow the Trump Defense Force™ to find some way of defending him. I find this part of the article to also be very compelling [QUOTE]But most current officeholders, even those who declared Mr. Trump to be an unthinkable choice only months ago, have lost the courage to speak out. [/QUOTE] Only Cruz has openly refused to support Trump and look at what happened to him now. I can totally understand why Trump is completely unopposed by the party because he made the GOP party bend over for him. Sad really.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50758102]It's disturbing how much freedom loving americans crave a dictator.[/QUOTE] They don't want freedom. They want [i]their[/i] freedom - fuck your freedom if you're a black thug, Muslim, BLM protester, outside agitator, economic migrant, illegal, Mexican, atheist, liberal, communist, socialist, democrat, abortionist, evolutionist, police critic, globalist, corporatist, Islamist, environmentalist, or leftist cuck. It's just a corruption of the word "freedom." It's a demand for rights [i]for me[/i] and not for others.

Half the articles this article mentions are written by the Washington post. And as far as I can tell, even in the videos, I'm not seeing any references or sources. meh Like if you want to talk statistics provide a link to a journal or scholarly article. Everything else is just the same shit the media has been criticizing him over for the last year

It's kind of telling how few pro Trumpsters would bother actually defending him from this, they'll ignore it and support him using the same old memes and thoughtless tactics lashing out at all of us who see this for the confusing cluster fuck of dissonant ideas in people who should fucking know better. There's no way to actually defend the man without disowning his past entirely and then you're just talking about being willfully ignorant

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50758275]It's kind of telling how few pro Trumpsters would bother actually defending him from this, they'll ignore it and support him using the same old memes and thoughtless tactics lashing out at all of us who see this for the confusing cluster fuck of dissonant ideas in people who should fucking know better. There's no way to actually defend the man without disowning his past entirely and then you're just talking about being willfully ignorant[/QUOTE] Pick a specific issue then

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50758292]Pick a specific issue then[/QUOTE] The wall that Mexico will "pay for" somehow. His idea to default on American debt. His willingness to use waterboarding/torture. His willingness to kill innocent families of supposed/known terrorists. Pick your choice.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50758267]Half the articles this article mentions are written by the Washington post. And as far as I can tell, even in the videos, I'm not seeing any references or sources. meh[/QUOTE] This is literally the response I expected from you "Nah it's not real criticism" "nah nothing to see here"

[QUOTE=joshuadim;50758314]The wall that Mexico will "pay for" somehow. His idea to default on American debt. His willingness to use waterboarding/torture. His willingness to kill innocent families of supposed/known terrorists. Pick your choice.[/QUOTE] Get Mexico to pay for the wall by threatening to cut off money imports to Mexico. Simple. Don't know about the debt issue. Last two is just war is hell. I don't like it, but you fight war to win with whatever you have. Now that's just an opinion, if you want to talk about effectiveness then we both need statistics. [editline]22nd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50758323]This is literally the response I expected from you "Nah it's not real criticism" "nah nothing to see here"[/QUOTE] Until you bring up stats there is no criticism, its just differing opinions. I saw no sources for the fact checking stuff they did in the videos in the source, just fancy graphics.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50758333]Get Mexico to pay for the wall by threatening to cut off money imports to Mexico. Simple. Don't know about the debt issue. Last two is just war is hell. I don't like it, but you fight war to win with whatever you have. Now that's just an opinion, if you want to talk about effectiveness then we both need statistics.[/QUOTE] And what makes you think Mexico will allow itself to be bullied and take it? Hint, this isn't an elementary school playground this is global politics. Well let me inform you then that he wants to default on our current debt, which many prominent economists have stated would tank the world economy and send everyone, including the United States, into a downward spiral. Trump has absolutely no idea about running a state and the economics involved in it. War is hell? Just because war is terrible doesn't mean you have to become terrible yourself. Then you become the same level as they are. It's disgusting that you are actually advocating the killing of innocent [B]women and children[/B] for "effectiveness". Also it has been stated in other threads to wystan, another Trumpster, on the subject of torture, that [B]TORTURE IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET INFORMATION.[/B]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50758275]It's kind of telling how few pro Trumpsters would bother actually defending him from this, they'll ignore it and support him using the same old memes and thoughtless tactics lashing out at all of us who see this for the confusing cluster fuck of dissonant ideas in people who should fucking know better. There's no way to actually defend the man without disowning his past entirely and then you're just talking about being willfully ignorant[/QUOTE] I don't fucking want Trump in either. I just want his influence to be a catalyst for more critical issues. Even as it stands if he did get in the vote would be so split my money is that he'll be just as badly stalemated as Obama is on Capitol hill with the Republicans.

1) Trump refuses to release his tax returns. How shady is that? Apparently, to pro Trumpsters, not at all, to the rest of us, it's super telling of how shady, and how untrust worthy your choice for president is. 2) Donald Trump doesn't read, he didn't even write his own best seller. And the person who did write it describes Donald Trump as a person who carries all the traits of a sociopath and shows an utter lack of interest in anything that's not related to him. You're voting for a narcissist of the highest order. A person who literally redefines what "selfishness" is. You'll have a hell of a time arguing those are positive traits in a leader. 3) His utter lack of policy relating to trade deals and his insistence that trade deals are stacked against America, and that without any plan in place, he'd fix that. That's an empty promise. 4) That stupid wall. 5) Leaving NATO 6) His constitutional ignorance should be disturbing for so called republicans who revere it but so many of you seem to throw your values away for fucking demagoguery [editline]22nd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50758333]Get Mexico to pay for the wall by threatening to cut off money imports to Mexico. Simple. Don't know about the debt issue. Last two is just war is hell. I don't like it, but you fight war to win with whatever you have. Now that's just an opinion, if you want to talk about effectiveness then we both need statistics. [editline]22nd July 2016[/editline] Until you bring up stats there is no criticism, its just differing opinions. I saw no sources for the fact checking stuff they did in the videos in the source, just fancy graphics.[/QUOTE] There are statistics on waterboarding and torture. People like Wystan are an example of why statistics don't matter to your side of the argument. Any time torture comes up, it's effectiveness isn't questionable in the eyes of torture supporters. Excuses such as "Why would the CIA be honest about how effective it is" are trot out so fast they make your head spin because of how little sense that makes. Just own up to it, you personally like the idea of torturing other people even if it has no effect to save the lives of americans. Because it factually doesn't. [editline]22nd July 2016[/editline] As far as thinking that Mexico is going to pay for that wall, you're literally deluded if you believe that a country that is struggling with debt, poverty, wars, drugs, and all of these other issues is going to prioritize a wall that [B]fucks them[/B]. They will not. The wall you Trumpsters are so passionate about will be paid for [B]BY YOU.[/B] There is no feasible way to take Mexico to task for paying for the wall, there is no feasible way to do well over half of the things that Trumpsters want from Trump. [editline]22nd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;50758377]I don't fucking want Trump in either. I just want his influence to be a catalyst for more critical issues. Even as it stands if he did get in the vote would be so split my money is that he'll be just as badly stalemated as Obama is on Capitol hill with the Republicans.[/QUOTE] Honestly, whatever happens once Trump is in, it's going to be bad for you, not for the rich. The rich that are backing Trump see this as their opportunity to rewrite America. I have no doubts of that thanks to living pieces of garbage like Thiel.

[QUOTE=joshuadim;50758358]And what makes you think Mexico will allow itself to be bullied and take it? Hint, this isn't an elementary school playground this is global politics. Well let me inform you then that he wants to default on our current debt, which many prominent economists have stated would tank the world economy and send everyone, including the United States, into a downward spiral. Trump has absolutely no idea about running a state and the economics involved in it. War is hell? Just because war is terrible doesn't mean you have to become terrible yourself. Then you become the same level as they are. It's disgusting that you are actually advocating the killing of innocent [B]women and children[/B] for "statistics and effectiveness". Also it has been stated in other threads to wystan on the subject of torture, that [B]TORTURE IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET INFORMATION.[/B][/QUOTE] I believe Mexico will take it because according to [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/05/the-numbers-behind-donald-trumps-threat-to-block-money-from-being-sent-back-to-mexico/]The Washington Post[/url] Mexico gets $2 billion sent in remittances per month. The WP criticizes the legality of doing so, but that's left for lawyers and courts to decide. I'm not familiar with finances so I'll give you the debt issue. And again its opinion. I don't think torture works either and I don't even think that the CIA and other agencies will reintroduce torture even if Trump becomes president so I'm not concerned with that, but you can't argue about effectiveness until you hear from people in the intelligence community. Civilian women, children, and men get killed in total war. No one likes war. There's an argument for security vs human rights, and right now innocent women, children, and men in the US and Europe are getting killed because we relaxed on security measures to take care of migrants. I don't like it, I don't like the implications it has on our military decisions, but I view it objectively.