Quick question for y'all, would a 650W (Seasonic, 80+Gold) PSU be enough for an ITX build with a GTX570 and i5-3570K? I'm figuring it would be, but I just wanted to ask around before committing to anything.
Full build isn't set in stone yet, but since I'm planning on a Btifenix Prodigy case, I'm looking for the most power/smallest size, since it seems to be a bitch with PSUs. It will be bought over the nest 2 or so weeks, just the specific RAM and such isn't done, CPU and MOBO are ordered though.
If you think of a better choice, let me know, my budget is up to about $200USD.
Personally I would go for a Corsair or Coolermaster.
[QUOTE=Drumdevil;40209608]Personally I would go for a Corsair or Coolermaster.[/QUOTE]
Corsair is good, Cooler Master is very 'meh' for the most part. Seasonic is [I]very good.[/I]
But yes, a Seasonic 80+ Gold would definitely be enough, and it'd be a good choice. But if you could provide me with the exact model, I might be able something equally good, but cheaper.
I'd recommend going for a lower wattage like [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151124[/url] or [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182262[/url] because the only reason I see to want a higher wattage power supply is for upgrades, and with an ITX build upgrades aren't much of an option.
Im using a 650W Rosewill, mines a full ATX build with an i5 3570k and a 670, ive still got enough wattage to get a second card if i wanted to. Which goes to show you often don't need as much wattage as you think, check this website out, it calculates wattage(roughly).
[url]http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp[/url]
I guess I should mention I'm coming from an AM3 build originally built with SLI in mind, so I guess I've overestimated my power needs. Though I'm rather skeptical on the 450W, is that really enough? There's going to be quite a few drives and fans in here, plus overclocking needs.
I was looking at this currently, as it has a rather large markdown at the moment:
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088[/url]
Thanks for your help guys, worst comes to worst I'll gut the 750W semi-modular XFX out of this rig, I'm aiming to keep it running though, plus as I said, Prodigy is a bitch with PSUs.
So I'm realizing I'm not being very specific, I'll make a list of the drives and such I know for sure will be in here:
-2 or 3 7200RPM drives
-1 Blu Ray drive
-Noctua NH-D14 : 1x 120mm, 1x140mm (if it doesn't hit the vertical VRM stuff ASUS did with this mobo)
-1 or 2 more 120/140 Noctua fans
-I think there's a 200mm sized fan in the case, that will stay.
-might also add a SSD, but that's nothing on the power requirements
Board: Asus p8z77-i deluxe
CPU: i5-3750K - overclocking this bitch as high as it will go with the aforementioned Noctua cooler
GPU: MSi Twin Frozr GTX 570
16GB RAM, probably some Ripjaws
Even corsair makes some crappy PSUs. Its really hard to go by brands, except for a few brands that [I]only [/I]make crap.
Its really worth it to buy a decent PSU, they last a very long time and prevent problems. Im alwasy blown away when I see people dropping $200 on a CPU and then buying the cheapest PSU they can find.
This is a pretty good article on the subject:
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html[/url]
Im personally using a Corsair GS600, which was roughly $100. Its pretty decent, although it would be nice if it was modular. Some of you may be thinking that you can spend half that much but I would not recommend it...
[QUOTE=Disco_Potato;40214925]Even corsair makes some crappy PSUs. Its really hard to go by brands, except for a few brands that [I]only [/I]make crap.
Its really worth it to buy a decent PSU, they last a very long time and prevent problems. Im alwasy blown away when I see people dropping $200 on a CPU and then buying the cheapest PSU they can find.
This is a pretty good article on the subject:
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html[/url]
Im personally using a Corsair GS600, which was roughly $100. Its pretty decent, although it would be nice if it was modular. Some of you may be thinking that you can spend half that much but I would not recommend it...[/QUOTE]
Heh, the two things I spend the (relative to what's out there) most on are the PSU and Mobo. Like I said, I've been looking for a Seasonic, and I'm aware that I'll probably could spend close to $200 if I go that route.
I mean naturally the graphics card costs the most, but most of them start around $200 so that's not saying much when it costs more than the other parts.
The thing is though you really don't need anywhere close to a $200 power supply. I understand that you want something that will last and that is high quality but a massive price isn't the only way to get that. XFX PSU's are all SeaSonic rebrands by the way so just keep the one you have now unless you have an issue with it.
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;40215630]The thing is though you really don't need anywhere close to a $200 power supply. I understand that you want something that will last and that is high quality but a massive price isn't the only way to get that. XFX PSU's are all SeaSonic rebrands by the way so just keep the one you have now unless you have an issue with it.[/QUOTE]
I realized the XFX/Seasonic thing when doing my own research last night, had completely forgotten about that. Though as I've said, I'm looking for a full modular PSU, just because of how tight the case is in respect to the PSU, mine's only semi-modular, and has that crappy permanent tail. Plus I want to keep the old build running.
I really just have a hard time believing that 450W is enough for the computer.
If you really need fully modular then the X650 is a good power supply like you previously said. I was just trying to save you a few bucks with other options.
[editline]9th April 2013[/editline]
Also 450W would be plenty, and most good quality power supplies can pull past their rated wattage by a good bit.
I'm running an i5 2500 and a 6950 (overclocked) on an Enermax 425W 82+ Pro, and I've had no problems. If you want to know the powerdraw of your system, look it up in a review, but I doubt it'll be more than maybe 320W. Still, the PSU you posted in the OP is probably the best 650W unit you can get right now, and it's modular - you can get some really decent 400-500W units, but then there's the question of upgradeability. The ATX specification is going to be around for a decent amount of time, and so will PCI-E. At the same time, I doubt power requirements are going to go up, so the 650W will be more than sufficient - if you ever want to run a SLI or CFX setup, this unit would do it.
So really, the way I see it, you have a few different options:
Superior upgradeability: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088[/url]
Decent units that won't break the bank:
Antec (non-modular): [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371063[/url]
Corsair (modular, but worse quality): [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050[/url]
Fanless power supply (if you really have some money to spare and already have a good quiet cooler): [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151099&Tpk=seasonic%20x-460&IsVirtualParent=1[/url]
I'd personally recommend the first option, but the two cheap ones aren't all that bad.
You have to remember this is for an ITX build and he already has an XFX 750W, that's why I wasn't recommending anything huge because there's no real upgrade path with multi gpu setups on ITX.
[QUOTE=HolyCrapAWalrus;40218572]You have to remember this is for an ITX build and he already has an XFX 750W, that's why I wasn't recommending anything huge because there's no real upgrade path with multi gpu setups on ITX.[/QUOTE]
I don't know 'bout you, but I often reuse parts from old builds in other builds, and he wants to keep his old rig running, though I must admit that I didn't notice the XFX-stuff before you mentioned it. Really, it's up to him, I think both solutions are very much viable - if he has money to spare, I'd simply go with the first.
Thanks both of you for your help, I actually came in here thinking 650W was too little, so I'm going with the X650 Seasonic, mostly because of how great of a deal it is right now, and for future proofing (hoping this build will last for a good few years, but who knows). Here's to hoping I don't have to hack up the case to fit it though.
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