UN official voices deep concern as Hamas raids offices of aid groups - Polidicks

[url]http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=34903&Cr=palestin&Cr1=[/url] [quote]3 June 2010 – A senior United Nations official in the Middle East today expressed deep concern at reports that Hamas has broken into the offices of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) in the Gaza Strip this week, confiscated materials and equipment, and forced the offices to shut down. Robert Serry, the UN Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, said in a statement issued in Jerusalem that reports indicated Hamas had broken into NGO offices in both Gaza City and Rafah. “This targeting of NGOs, including UN partner organizations, is unacceptable, violating accepted norms of a free society and harming the Palestinian people,” he said. “The de facto authorities must cease such repressive steps and allow the re-opening of these civil society institutions without delay.” Hamas, which does not recognize Israel’s right to exist, took control of Gaza in 2007 after it ousted the Fatah movement. About 1.5 million Palestinians live in the area, which has been blockaded by Israel for the past three years.[/quote] HAMAS only seems to like aid workers if they hold pipes and talk about killing israelis.

Do Hamas want the aid for their people or not?

Hamas is a bunch of idiots who don't know what's good for them.

HAMAS is an organization of some of the dumbest terrorists on the planet.

May seem in bad taste but, I hope both sides annihilate themselves. I can't take sides in this conflict as I hate both sides equally. This is just typical of Hamas.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;22390997]HAMAS is an organization of some of the dumbest terrorists on the planet.[/QUOTE] Look up the definition of terrorist first.

Yeah, it doesn't look like the CIA is going to have an easy time trying to turn Hamas into anything other than a terrorist group.

[QUOTE=IStanI;22391059]Look up the definition of terrorist first.[/QUOTE] They shoot rockets at civilian targets and blow themselves up in civilian areas. Yep, no terrorism here

[QUOTE=IStanI;22391059]Look up the definition of terrorist first.[/QUOTE] Hamas is considered a terrorist organisation by many, including the US.

[QUOTE=Mabus;22391045]May seem in bad taste but, I hope both sides annihilate themselves. I can't take sides in this conflict as I hate both sides equally. This is just typical of Hamas.[/QUOTE] This. Too bad millions of civilians would get caught up in it.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22391085]They shoot rockets at civilian targets and blow themselves up in civilian areas. Yep, no terrorism here[/QUOTE] Not quite my friend, they get others to do that for them. mostly women and young adults spurred by hopes of martyrdom

[QUOTE=Mabus;22391110]Not quite my friend, they get others to do that for them. mostly women and young adults spurred by hopes of martyrdom[/QUOTE] So these women and young adults are directly related to the hamas. The fact that you support and organize terrorism doesn't make you less of a terrorist. Just proving a point here to anyone who actually believes this.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22391188]So these women and young adults are directly related to the hamas. The fact that you support and organize terrorism doesn't make less of a terrorist. Just proving a point here to anyone who actually believes this.[/QUOTE] where is this coming from? I never said anything about them being directly related, although some young men that join hamas are used this way along with women. your making my head :psyduck:

[QUOTE=Mabus;22391263]where is this coming from? I never said anything about them being directly related, although some young men that join hamas are used this way along with women. your making my head :psyduck:[/QUOTE] :psyduck: I think we are talking about 2 different topics here. Can you repeat your opinion?

Ahh of course, this isn't on the front of the local newspaper in Melbourne (The Age) this morning... what a change.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22391085]They shoot rockets at civilian targets and blow themselves up in civilian areas. Yep, no terrorism here[/QUOTE] Israel uses more advanced weaponry and kills far more Palestinian civilians than Hamas has killed theirs.

The US has killed more civilians than the Iraqi have. Hell, did the Iraqis even kill US citizens? That still doesn't make the Iraqis right or the US wrong.

Really, Hamas? You're just gonna make it harder on the people you're so called "protecting".

[QUOTE=DogGunn;22390899]Do Hamas want the aid for their people or not?[/QUOTE] They're fighting against Judaism, they don't care about trivial things like this. You have to understand that they do not want land, they do not want food or material possessions, they want to complete what they see is the ultimate struggle for their faith against those they deem threaten it.

[QUOTE=Idi Amin;22394117]They're fighting against Judaism, they don't care about trivial things like this. You have to understand that they do not want land, they do not want food or material possessions, they want to complete what they see is the ultimate struggle for their faith against those they deem threaten it.[/QUOTE] Oh please shut up, it has nothing to do with religion.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22394036]The US has killed more civilians than the Iraqi have. Hell, did the Iraqis even kill US citizens? That still doesn't make the Iraqis right or the US wrong.[/QUOTE] What a bullshit comparison.

[QUOTE=Idi Amin;22394117]They're fighting against Judaism, they don't care about trivial things like this.[/QUOTE] I'd say their fight is against Israel, not Jewdaism - otherwise I don't understand why *anyone* would support their cause. [editline]02:36AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;22394184]What a bullshit comparison.[/QUOTE] Think of a better one then.

Well Enishi claims that when two sides are in a war or a conflict, the side which killed less is right and the side which killed more is wrong, which is just plain stupid.

**automerge broken** This just in case someone says "Its in there charter" [release][[Mousa Abu Marzook]], the deputy of the political bureau of Hamas, in 2007 described the charter as "an essentially revolutionary document born of the intolerable conditions under occupation" in 1988. Marzook added that "if every state or movement were to be judged solely by its foundational, revolutionary documents . . ., there would be a good deal to answer for on all sides," noting as an example that the [[US Constitution]] engaged in codifying [[slavery]].<ref>[[URL]http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-marzook10jul10,1,3392144.story[/URL] "Hamas' Stand"] ''The Los Angeles Times'' July 10, 2007</ref> Senior British [[diplomat]] and former British [[ambassador]] to the [[UN]] [[Jeremy Greenstock|Sir Jeremy Greenstock]] stated in early 2009 that the Hamas charter was "drawn up by a Hamas-linked imam some [twenty] years ago and has never been adopted since Hamas was elected as the Palestinian government in 2006". Greenstock also stated that Hamas is not intent on the destruction of Israel.<ref name="news.bbc.co.uk">[[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7823000/7823746.stm[/URL] BBC Today Programme interview with Sir Jeremy Greenstock, 12 January 2009[/release] [editline]05:39PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22394221]Well Enishi claims that when two sides are in a war or a conflict, the side which killed less is right and the side which killed more is wrong, which is just plain stupid.[/QUOTE] If you thought harder, it'd kinda show who is the real threat here.

So a British ambassador says that Hamas is not intent on the destruction of Israel, and you take his word? I'm not sure he's in a position to comment on what Hamas's status is.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;22394204]Think of a better one then.[/QUOTE] It's probably better to explain something like the post below yours. You can't compare two complicated and delicate matters together and think of them the same.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22394036]The US has killed more civilians than the Iraqi have. Hell, did the Iraqis even kill US citizens? That still doesn't make the Iraqis right or the US wrong.[/QUOTE] If the U.S does it, then it must be right! :downs: [editline]05:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DogGunn;22394303]So a British ambassador says that Hamas is not intent on the destruction of Israel, and you take his word? I'm not sure he's in a position to comment on what Hamas's status is.[/QUOTE] Are you purposely trying to troll, or just illiterate?

[QUOTE=starpluck;22394319]Are you purposely trying to troll, or just illiterate?[/QUOTE] I'm neither. If Hamas wasn't intent on the destruction of Israel, why would they shoot rockets into Israel? Were they bored? [editline]02:46AM[/editline] The thing is, Hamas only changed their views on the "destruction of Israel" when it came to election time.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22394169]Oh please shut up, it has nothing to do with religion.[/QUOTE] lol whatever gets you to sleep at night

[QUOTE=DogGunn;22394402]I'm neither. If Hamas wasn't intent on the destruction of Israel, why would they shoot rockets into Israel? Were they bored?[/QUOTE] Its to create: [B]pressure[/B]. The Olympic massacre, even though it was horrible, the purpose of it was to bring international attention to the atrocities committed by Israel. 30 years later, the world is starting to notice and withdraw support. [B]---[/B] [GAZA FLOTILLA] The following countries downgraded their diplomatic relations with Israel and/or withdrew ambassadors: Ecuador, Nicaragua,[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_Gaza_flotilla_clash#cite_note-S_Africa_recalls_Israel_ambassador-0"][1][/URL] South Africa,[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_Gaza_flotilla_clash#cite_note-S_Africa_recalls_Israel_ambassador-0"][1][/URL] and Turkey. Twenty European countries condemned or protested Israeli actions: Albania, Azerbaijan, Croatia, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Norway, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Czech Republic, Sweden and the United Kingdom. Israel was widely condemned in the Arab world. Eleven non-Arab Asian countries condemned Israeli actions: China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Japan, Malaysia, Maldives, North Korea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Uzbekistan. Twelve Latin American countries condemned Israeli actions: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Cuba, Ecuador, Mexico, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay and Venezuela. Israel was also condemned by Turkey, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. Nineteen countries focused their statements on expressing regret over loss of life: Israel, Argentina, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Canada, Czech Republic, Croatia, Egypt, Estonia, Greece, the Holy See, India, Ireland, Japan, Sri Lanka, United Kingdom, United States and Uruguay. [editline]05:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Idi Amin;22394452]lol whatever gets you to sleep at night[/QUOTE] You know you won an argument when someone pretends to give up.