European Parliament launches 'in-depth inquiry' into US spying - Polidicks

[url]http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/09/19354385-european-parliament-launches-in-depth-inquiry-into-us-spying?lite[/url] [QUOTE] [IMG]http://img2u.info/ckgni/i/g90bd75bc.jpg[/IMG] The European Parliament has voted to conduct an “in-depth inquiry” into allegations of large scale U.S. spying on them. Reacting to revelations made by self-professed NSA leaker Edward Snowden, that America had bugged European Union representatives and conducted huge surveillance program's on them, 483 members voted for an investigation. That’s more than half of the 766 members of parliament, although 98 voted against the proposal and 65 abstained.As a result, the Civil Liberties Committee will “gather evidence from both U.S. and EU sources,” they announced in a statement. “MEPs express serious concern over PRISM and other surveillance programs,” it said, adding that they, “strongly condemn spying on EU representations and call on the U.S. authorities to provide them with full information on these allegations without further delay.” They also urged their leaders to use everything at their disposal in negotiations with the U.S. including suspending the current air passenger and bank data deals. But it added that it would be “unfortunate” if trade talks between the two groups were to be affected. [/QUOTE]

How much does Europe need America economically actually?

A lot, it's a symbiotic relationship really. One won't do well without the other.

While you're at it look into what your own memberstates are doing. Every western power in the world is just as guilty of spying as we are. Nobody's nose is clean and everyone needs to answer for it. [QUOTE=demoguy08;41374648]A lot, it's a symbiotic relationship really. One won't do well without the other.[/QUOTE] And yet we'd do better than they did.

[QUOTE=TestECull;41374896] And yet we'd do better than they did.[/QUOTE] I haven't seen one "Made in America" article here except software, but how many stuff do you get from Europe?

From what I've noticed, not much. I've seen about the same amount of "made in x country in Europe" that I see of "made in America". [editline]9th July 2013[/editline] They should probably do inquiries on each other as well, since I don't doubt they've been spying on each other. But then that'd be against their interests.

[QUOTE=TorashVD;41375115]I haven't seen one "Made in America" article here except software, but how many stuff do you get from Europe?[/QUOTE] The US mostly exports machined goods and industrial supplies - you won't see "Made in the USA" very often unless you work in a factory of some sort, or a design firm. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/stBrMMe.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e3zB76k.jpg[/IMG] Read more here: [url]http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/03/14/148460268/what-america-sells-to-the-world[/url] I don't see very many "Made in (European country)" stickers. Mostly on foreign cars, yet even they are starting to do what Ford and GM do - ship some parts to Mexico, build the rest there and then assemble it.

[QUOTE=Saber15;41376867] I don't see very many "Made in (European country)" stickers. Mostly on foreign cars, yet even they are starting to do what Ford and GM do - ship some parts to Mexico, build the rest there and then assemble it.[/QUOTE] Well most batteries here are made in Europe, also many chemicals (BASF) are made here (Go to Rotterdam and you can see goant oil refinerys and other petrol based industry). Denmark produces Diesel Engines, Germany cars and mechanic elements. And Aspirin.

Most manufacturing has moved overseas anyways (well a little has come back because now some countries are rich enough to buy from us now). Agriculture is still being propped up by the state here, so a lot of "Grown locally in X" is still around, even if it means lower quality and higher prices.

Edit: I know this is crass and harsh, but "Cut trade with the US". Are you intoxicated or just delayed?

[QUOTE=TorashVD;41375115]I haven't seen one "Made in America" article here except software, but how many stuff do you get from Europe?[/QUOTE] We have the manufacturing capability within our own borders to make literally everything we want. Even fuel.

[QUOTE=TestECull;41374896] And yet we'd do better than they did.[/QUOTE] Considering the EU is essentially the strongest economy in the world at this moment and that a lot of economy power comes from internal markets, the EU would probably fare a bit better to the US actually. I'd say that a bigger danger to us would be Russia no more since a lot of our fossil fuel needs come from them. That said it would be absolutely brutal for both. [QUOTE=TestECull;41391397]We have the manufacturing capability within our own borders to make literally everything we want. Even fuel.[/QUOTE] That applies to most advanced nations. The bigger question is if it is economical to do as such. [QUOTE=Emperorconor;41377622]Most manufacturing has moved overseas anyways (well a little has come back because now some countries are rich enough to buy from us now). Agriculture is still being propped up by the state here, so a lot of "Grown locally in X" is still around, even if it means lower quality and higher prices.[/QUOTE] It's my experience, that while consumer stuff has moved overseas and is probably staying overseas, industrial manufacture is not. It's returning back fairly strongly and that over increased costs. Since the QA is much much higher. [quote] I don't see very many "Made in (European country)" stickers. Mostly on foreign cars, yet even they are starting to do what Ford and GM do - ship some parts to Mexico, build the rest there and then assemble it.[/QUOTE] That's actually due to taxes. Most of these car makers would have utterly massive taxation unless they actually "build" the cars locally. So these parts factories are a way to get around it.

[QUOTE=commander204;41373927]How much does Europe need America economically actually?[/QUOTE] As much as it does from China or Russia. The world economy runs off each other, one collapses and the others will follow. This would be a massive blow to both sides if they broke their trade deals. It doesn't even matter who fares better, both sides lose.