• 'Betray Me And You're Dead': How Loyalty Leached Out Of Politics
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[URL="http://www.npr.org/2014/01/19/263750472/betray-me-and-youre-dead-how-loyalty-leached-out-of-politics"]NPR Link[/URL] [quote=NPR]"When you're a staffer or consultant, at some level you have to understand that you're a bit like a milk carton and at some point you'll reach your expiration date," says Chris Lehane, a Democratic consultant. "There could always be a time when the principal is going to have to effectively throw you under the bus." That happened recently to Bridget Anne Kelly, the longtime aide to New Jersey GOP Gov. Chris Christie. Christie fired her after emails were published revealing she was directly implicated in the bridge traffic tie-up scandal. "For the leader, there is no such thing as loyalty," says Michael Genovese, director of the Institute for Leadership Studies at Loyola Marymount University. "Loyalty flows in one direction: up." Silence may be golden for aides and appointees, as Genovese suggests, but they might not keep their mouths shut forever — as President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden found out with the recent publication of a critical memoir by former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. And, if there's uncertainty about whether aides and elected officials can ever fully trust one another, there's also a large question regarding how politicians react to betrayals from outside their inner circles, which was raised anew by reports that Hillary Clinton maintained a "hit list" of people who failed to support her 2008 presidential run.[/quote]
This is beyond disgusting. We let these people control our lives. But what can we do? Have a revolution? Whoever runs for office the generation after the revolution will run for the same reason these people do. Not to help people, but just so they can have power.
"Loyalty flows in one direction: up." That quote made chills run up my spine.
This isn't only in politics. Same concept applies in businesses as well.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43598672]This isn't only in politics. Same concept applies in businesses as well.[/QUOTE] If anything, more so. You could sink your whole life into working for a company, but the second you do anything to damage it, you get thrown out the door with nothing. American culture apparently now dictates that workers should silently work themselves to death, and bosses should feel free to cast people to the wolves at the slightest provocation. Fuck this country sometimes, seriously.
Not surpised
This isn't news, politicians have been throwing each other under the bus since the classical era at the least
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43598672]This isn't only in politics. Same concept applies in businesses as well.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;43598868]If anything, more so. You could sink your whole life into working for a company, but the second you do anything to damage it, you get thrown out the door with nothing. American culture apparently now dictates that workers should silently work themselves to death, and bosses should feel free to cast people to the wolves at the slightest provocation. Fuck this country sometimes, seriously.[/QUOTE] During my time at Legoland I helped my supervisor get a huge promotion. I took a program within the park and made it so good that they implemented it across every Legoland [i]in the world[/i]. When it was time for me to take the next step in life and make enough to support myself, that supervisor was nowhere to be found. I didn't need to be a director, or even a supervisor. A small leadership position (a "lead") would have been plenty. Or even just full time work. Instead of promotion, I had to list my work on my resume and go elsewhere. I really learned a lot from it.
Should have tried to patent your idea before sharing it to them (unsure if you can for a business you work for), I've been in a similar position before - management chains across industries are fucked up, everyone is it for themselves and not the company or each other (generally speaking).
[QUOTE=e.;43599043]Should have tried to patent your idea before sharing it to them (unsure if you can for a business you work for), I've been in a similar position before - management chains across industries are fucked up, everyone is it for themselves and not the company or each other (generally speaking).[/QUOTE] It was a job I was asked to do. While it wasn't my idea, the entire thing was left in my hands.
[QUOTE]Agoat posted: It was a job I was asked to do. While it wasn't my idea, the entire thing was left in my hands.[/QUOTE] That sucks man, its ludicrous how front line employees do a majority of the hard work but somehow management always manage to take the praise from the staff and in return they reap the benefits. The company I work for gives us a bonus for our hard work at the end of the financial year; mine is worth around £20 (if that) where as a member of management can earn up to an excess of £2,000 for effectively doing the same job but with a fraction more responsibility (considering they only manage a handful of personnel, in what is already a straight forward position).
[QUOTE=Cockslap;43598389]This is beyond disgusting. We let these people control our lives. But what can we do? Have a revolution? Whoever runs for office the generation after the revolution will run for the same reason these people do. Not to help people, but just so they can have power.[/QUOTE] And if Chris Christie left his aids in power who supposedly did this? We'd all be bitching about how corrupt politicians are for defending their aides and other workers and going beyond the 'will of the people'.
[QUOTE=e.;43599102]That sucks man, its ludicrous how front line employees do a majority of the hard work but somehow management always manage to take the praise from the staff and in return they reap the benefits. The company I work for gives us a bonus for our hard work at the end of the financial year; mine is worth around £20 (if that) where as a member of management can earn up to an excess of £2,000 for effectively doing the same job but with a fraction more responsibility (considering they only manage a handful of personnel, in what is already a straight forward position).[/QUOTE] I've found that once you hit management, you can do anything. I think it's because they're looking for responsible people, but they never see younger people as responsible. I'm one of the youngest people at my new job.
Well then that covers it I really think there needs to be something done about the culture of everyone in it for them selves, though that will take time. But for the aide being made out for direct implication then firing her even though Chris Cristie issued the orders, I know now who I am not voting for 2016 presidential elections or when ever the fuck they are.
[QUOTE=e.;43599102]That sucks man, its ludicrous how front line employees do a majority of the hard work but somehow management always manage to take the praise from the staff and in return they reap the benefits. The company I work for gives us a bonus for our hard work at the end of the financial year; mine is worth around £20 (if that) where as a member of management can earn up to an excess of £2,000 for effectively doing the same job but with a fraction more responsibility (considering they only manage a handful of personnel, in what is already a straight forward position).[/QUOTE] Managers don't do as much of the physical work, but their roles do have purpose. For example, I work in a supermarket so there's a pretty large hierarchy. I pack shelves, but if the fill captain wasn't effective at the role then we wouldn't get through the load each night. If the duty manager wasnt effective, the shop would almost be in a state of disrepair. If the department manager wasnt effective, the back stockroom would be unnecessarily clogged up with shit. Managers get paid lots, not because they set their own salaries (because someone above them sets their pay for them), but because they have a lot of responsibility, and if they fail to do their job right it fucks over everything. I'm studying a Management major at university but it will take me another four years (plus the one year I've already done) until I've finished it and receive the qualification. It's some serious shit. [editline]20th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Agoat;43599180]I've found that once you hit management, you can do anything. I think it's because they're looking for responsible people, but they never see younger people as responsible. I'm one of the youngest people at my new job.[/QUOTE] I've been the acting department manager twice (in the rare absence of the overhead manager, department manager, duty manager and fill captain) and that was pretty scary, was thrown straight into the deep end. The overhead manager trusted me though, so that's a good thing I guess. Especially for someone only 18.
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