• Ad blockers (and other content blockers) will now be possible with iOS 9
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[url]http://www.wired.com/2015/06/apples-support-ad-blocking-will-upend-web-works/[/url] [quote=Wired]APPLE IS COMING for ads. It’s coming for publishers. And, in the process, it may be gunning for the web. At its Worldwide Developers Conference this week, Apple demoed iOS 9, showing off a smarter Siri and a more useful wallet. But it didn’t share everything. Later, buried in documentation released after the conference, the company revealed another update to iOS 9—app developers will be able to create ad blocking software for Safari’s mobile browser. Ad blocking is nothing new. Users have long downloaded extensions to block ads on their desktop browser of choice to better protect their privacy, improve load times, save battery life, and, well, block those pesky pop-ups and annoying banner ads. But, according to the Interactive Advertising Bureau, ad blocking has become so popular that it poses a danger to marketers, entertainers, and publishers. And mobile ads are next. Consumers are spending more of their digital time on their phones—and Apple wants to own that experience. While iPhone users can download third-party browsers, the majority of mobile and tablet users in the US use Apple’s own Safari browser. So, even though some limited ad block options have existed for iOS and Android in the past, this is the first time Apple is giving mobile ad blocking its official blessing.[/quote]
Doesn't adblock on Android work by acting as a proxy server? Seems implausible that Apple actually builds something into iOS just for blocking ads
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;47942329]Doesn't adblock on Android work by acting as a proxy server? Seems implausible that Apple actually builds something into iOS just for blocking ads[/QUOTE] With root access on Android, AdBlock can remove the actual ad panels from any app. Such a feature is useful but too abusable to be included in vanilla OSes. [editline]ratatatata[/editline] Yup, Apple just added a way to block requests to URLs and change properties of HTML tags: [URL="https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releasenotes/General/WhatsNewInSafari/Articles/Safari_9.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014305-CH9-SW9"]link from article[/URL]. This can also be used for parental control and censorship. Possibly even inserting ads, but I CBA to look up all the actions on filters to confirm this one.
Great. Porn is a fucking nightmare on my phone.
Now if only it could fix pop-unders.
[QUOTE] But, according to the Interactive Advertising Bureau, ad blocking has become so popular that it poses a danger to marketers, entertainers, and publishers.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't have an ad blocker if advertisements didn't cover my screen with a close button thats a 1x1 pixels.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;47942540]Maybe now I can browse wikia pages without being trapped in a fullscreen popup add for The Witcher 3 :v:[/QUOTE] Now I can have your avatar blocked on IOS as well as my desktop.
[QUOTE=ShimTaco;47942534]I wouldn't have an ad blocker if advertisements didn't cover my screen with a close button thats a 1x1 pixels.[/QUOTE] If a website asks for me to turn AdBlock off, I'll check to see what the ads are like. If they're actually considerate, then I leave them off. If they're trying to suck money out of my view's like it's water in an underdeveloped village, the filter goes right back on.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47952606]If a website asks for me to turn AdBlock off, I'll check to see what the ads are like. If they're actually considerate, then I leave them off. If they're trying to suck money out of my view's like it's water in an underdeveloped village, the filter goes right back on.[/QUOTE] If it's a proprietary/self-hosted system (think along the likes of what reddit uses), then chances are if there are no Pao-like scandals I'll leave it disabled. AdSense? That's asking for drive-by malware, so nope to that!
Funny how ads on the internet have become a sort of cat & mouse game. It's something everyone hates so we do our best to block them, yet a vast majority of the content on the internet is supported by them which necessitates their continual development and the creation of ways to bypass continually-updated ad blockers.
[QUOTE=thisispain;47952644]Funny how ads on the internet have become a sort of cat & mouse game. It's something everyone hates so we do our best to block them, yet a vast majority of the content on the internet is supported by them which necessitates their continual development and the creation of ways to bypass continually-updated ad blockers.[/QUOTE] Maybe if the response to adblockers wasn't "Make our ads more agressive!" I would pull back from using them.
[QUOTE=thisispain;47952644]Funny how ads on the internet have become a sort of cat & mouse game. It's something everyone hates so we do our best to block them, yet a vast majority of the content on the internet is supported by them which necessitates their continual development and the creation of ways to bypass continually-updated ad blockers.[/QUOTE] Wasn't there a campaign by AdBlock that forced people to abide certain standards should they want their ads to be unblocked?
Good change, didn't think apple would've let that slip onto their browser so easily. [QUOTE=vercas;47942413]With root access on Android, AdBlock can remove the actual ad panels from any app.[/QUOTE] LuckyPatcher also lets you do similar with slightly more control, letting you also block the service and patch host file. More you know.
rip app store
I needed a reason to stop using iOS Chrome
I actually already have adblock on my iphone 4 ios7 thanks to jailbreak. Glad to see it coming for the vanilla
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47952658]Wasn't there a campaign by AdBlock that forced people to abide certain standards should they want their ads to be unblocked?[/QUOTE] I'd never heard of that. Sounds like a great deal though. I don't use AdBlock because I want to support site maintainers.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47952658]Wasn't there a campaign by AdBlock that forced people to abide certain standards should they want their ads to be unblocked?[/QUOTE] Plus, not the Chrome AdBlock (or as its starting to call itself, "BetaFish AdBlock").
The problem with adblocking becoming more prevalent is that content creators are going to be pushed more and more toward shady promotional deals disguised as actual content. The whole reason sites like Kotaku are using underhanded tricks to disguise ads as articles is because traditional ads simply don't pay out like they used to. Over the last few years we've seen this spread from blogs to Youtube, and going forward I can expect that it's going to get harder and harder to distinguish ads from other content. I've actually begun to try and reduce the amount of adblocking I do but even that is getting harder because malicious ads are also becoming more prevalent. There's really no winning here, but Apple including an adblocker definitely isn't going to help. I can imagine Google beginning to put less effort into iOS development if this goes forward.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;47957164]The problem with adblocking becoming more prevalent is that content creators are going to be pushed more and more toward shady promotional deals disguised as actual content. The whole reason sites like Kotaku are using underhanded tricks to disguise ads as articles is because traditional ads simply don't pay out like they used to. Over the last few years we've seen this spread from blogs to Youtube, and going forward I can expect that it's going to get harder and harder to distinguish ads from other content. I've actually begun to try and reduce the amount of adblocking I do but even that is getting harder because malicious ads are also becoming more prevalent. There's really no winning here, but Apple including an adblocker definitely isn't going to help. I can imagine Google beginning to put less effort into iOS development if this goes forward.[/QUOTE] Advertisement driven economy was always enormously bizarre and repulsive to me. Most of my favourite content creators have already moved onto schemes like Patreon or, you know, actually make money with their work, directly. If somebody can't get people to actually pay them for their effort, maybe their work isn't worth looking for in the first place.
I'd rather not have to pay money to read each and every website, but eliminating the line between advertisement and content isn't a fair price either.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;47957164]The problem with adblocking becoming more prevalent is that content creators are going to be pushed more and more toward shady promotional deals disguised as actual content. The whole reason sites like Kotaku are using underhanded tricks to disguise ads as articles is because traditional ads simply don't pay out like they used to. Over the last few years we've seen this spread from blogs to Youtube, and going forward I can expect that it's going to get harder and harder to distinguish ads from other content. I've actually begun to try and reduce the amount of adblocking I do but even that is getting harder because malicious ads are also becoming more prevalent. There's really no winning here, but Apple including an adblocker definitely isn't going to help. I can imagine Google beginning to put less effort into iOS development if this goes forward.[/QUOTE] It's also made game reviewers like TotalBiscuit and entertainers like JonTron possible: no filter and all content. It's great.
Fuck the Interactive Advertising Bureau, online advertisers collectively dug their own graves when they started making delayed auto playing invisible videos, ads that hide the "exit" button and fill the screens. Even companies that should be above such practices pull the same kind of bullshit on us, so every time I disable adblock to give them a chance, they do something annoying and make me enable it again.
Now if only there was an option to block ads in apps getting a full screen pop up everytime you die is damn annoying
[QUOTE=lordofdafood;47965822]Now if only there was an option to block ads in apps getting a full screen pop up everytime you die is damn annoying[/QUOTE] Aw man, you died? Oh well. Watch this 15 second video of this woman sensually walking through an exploding castle half-naked. Come play m'lord.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47964621]It's also made game reviewers like TotalBiscuit and entertainers like JonTron possible: no filter and all content. It's great.[/QUOTE] Except those two are basically prime examples of what I'm talking about. Just because an advertisement is 20 minutes long and funny doesn't mean it isn't an advertisement. It's still paid for by someone who ultimately controls the narrative in the video.
I've had an AdBlocker on my jailbroken iPhone 4, but it slows the whole phone down and doesn't work well with Chrome, let alone any other apps it claims it can support. Paid some money for it too, nothing much but I wish it worked better. I really don't use the jailbreak for anything other than some visual tweaks, activator, and miscellaneous stuff. Unless there's a quick iOS 9 jailbreak I might update and get rid of Cydia.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;47968794]Except those two are basically prime examples of what I'm talking about. Just because an advertisement is 20 minutes long and funny doesn't mean it isn't an advertisement. It's still paid for by someone who ultimately controls the narrative in the video.[/QUOTE] How so?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;47968794]Except those two are basically prime examples of what I'm talking about. Just because an advertisement is 20 minutes long and funny doesn't mean it isn't an advertisement. It's still paid for by someone who ultimately controls the narrative in the video.[/QUOTE] Are you talking about the little "brought to you by" thing at the end of their videos? Because those have been a thing since the inception of ad supported media. As far as the content, I hardly see them as good examples. Especially jontron, as the content of his videos are games and stuff that are hardly relevant to the modern game industry.
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