• Sony is getting sued over the beloved Other Os feature (R.I.P)
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[url]http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/4/29/sony-being-sued-over-other-os-removal/[/url] [QUOTE]The company has apologised for the removal of the Other OS function but says that the action was essential to prevent [B]piracy[/B][/QUOTE] lol? [QUOTE]At least one user has received a partial refund from Amazon after complaining that his PS3 console no longer did what it was orginally intended to do. Sony has since said that it will not reimburse retailers if they choose to offer refunds.[/QUOTE] Lol Sony is suddenly pretty evil. I really hope that this will teach them a lesson.
I havent been on playstation online since that update came out. lucky i dont have any good onliners.
Maybe this will make them take their heads out of their asses and re-enable it. It's a stretch, but it'd be nice. I haven't updated my system since that patch came out.
Good. I understand, that they don't want PSP CFW all over again, but removing features that helped to sell the consoles is just wrong.
I can certainly see why they would want to remove such a feature, but through an update? For people who already payed for it? That doesn't even sound legal. Being sued serves them well
Bah I updated mine just for the Skate 3 demo. But piracy for PS3? Never heard of that one before, only that Geohotz did something that had nothing with pirating to do.
why do people care? What good does a linux do on the ps3?
I might go down to John Lewis at some point just to see if they'll give me a refund (hey, it's £80 if it goes right)
People have made this a big deal when it's not. Less than 1% of the PS3 userbase actually made use of this feature, so while the minority complains, the rest of us are enjoying our system and playing online.
[QUOTE=kayOkay;21628777] Lol Sony is suddenly pretty evil. [/QUOTE] How so? They said that they dropped the feature, if you didn't do some research about the product you're about to drop a few hundred dollars on that's your problem.
Sony has always been evil.
[QUOTE=fewes;21629308]I can certainly see why they would want to remove such a feature, but through an update? For people who already payed for it? That doesn't even sound legal. Being sued serves them well[/QUOTE] They are selling you a gaming device not a box to run linux on in my opinion there is nothing wrong with how they removed it or the fact that they did remove it. It might have been a feature that encouraged a few sales but I doubt many people use it in comparison to people that don't. If garry's mod had a random feature removed that wasn't even its main selling point would people go as far as suing about it? Probably not.
I did a survey on how many PS3 owners even knew about this feature before it was removed. Out of 100 people, 1 person did.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21630771]I did a survey on how many PS3 owners even knew about this feature before it was removed. Out of 100 people, 1 person did.[/QUOTE] Pretty much what I wanted to post. Who was using it anyway? And whats about the "lol?" in the first post? They wanted to prevent the PS3 from getting hacked, so they disabled it. It got restored soon after that by GeoHot.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21629892]People have made this a big deal when it's not. Less than 1% of the PS3 userbase actually made use of this feature, so while the minority complains, the rest of us are enjoying our system and playing online.[/QUOTE] Minorities are people too. 1% (or less) is still a large number of PS3 users. Also, they should not be able to do this anyway. If they can do this, what's stopping them from going one or two steps further?
The people who use OtherOS wanted a cheap computer to daisychain together for parallel computing. The average user doesn't giv a fuk about this feature. My point here is that Sony sells consoles at a loss and makes it up in game licensing/sales. People who use the hardware for this aren't their primary market :)
[QUOTE=UnMute;21631132]Minorities are people too. 1% (or less) is still a large number of PS3 users. Also, they should not be able to do this anyway. If they can do this, what's stopping them from going one or two steps further?[/QUOTE] What are you implying, that Sony is going to take away every major selling point feature because they took out a feature hardly anyone used? What are you, a freedom fighter or something? The minority is not in the primary interest of the company. Out of 34 million consoles sold as of December 2009, that makes 340,000 possible candidates using the feature. Considering the total is LESS than 1%, that means less than 340,000 people were using it. That amount of people is a drop in the ocean compared to the overall userbase. AND, out of those actually utilizing the feature, there's probably a percent that doesn't mind that they don't get to use it anymore because it was a novelty feature anyway.
[QUOTE=Emz;21630743]They are selling you a gaming device not a box to run linux on in my opinion there is nothing wrong with how they removed it or the fact that they did remove it. It might have been a feature that encouraged a few sales but I doubt many people use it in comparison to people that don't. If garry's mod had a random feature removed that wasn't even its main selling point would people go as far as suing about it? Probably not.[/QUOTE] I don't really get your comparision with Garry's Mod. If a feature that wasn't a selling point was to be removed no-one would complain? Okay, fine, but the Ps3 running other operating systems [B]was[/B] a selling point.
Sony you bunch of dicks, remotely removing features I pay for.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;21629567]Bah I updated mine just for the Skate 3 demo. But piracy for PS3? Never heard of that one before, only that Geohotz did something that had nothing with pirating to do.[/QUOTE] There was an exploit released that let you kind of play burned BDRs. I recall it having something to do with Linux and a saved-game hack in the first Motorstorm game.
Ahhh they managed to run a Hello World? Didn't hear of it since I dont follow much news. But seriously, people should try to imagine for once that they aren't the only humans on this planet, and that what they don't use might be used by others. Even if it's minority, the Other Os feature was a marketing tool, and I buy shit to use it, not to lose functionalities. Also, to the dude who said that the PS3 was a gaming system and not made to run Linux: duuude, check any advert for the PS3, it will state that the PS3 is a Multi-media platform: watching movies, connecting to the net, playing music, [B]running other OSes[/B]... Sony is spanking costumers, time to punish them back.
[QUOTE=fewes;21631764]I don't really get your comparision with Garry's Mod. If a feature that wasn't a selling point was to be removed no-one would complain? Okay, fine, but the Ps3 running other operating systems [B]was[/B] a selling point.[/QUOTE] I don't own a PS3 but I do go into stores often enough to see them on display and I see enough adverts when I occasionally watch TV also and not once have I seen a "oh you can also run another operating system" as a sales pitch. In fact back at University some Sony reps even came with PS3's for us to sample. They preferred to go on about Bluray and their motion control in this game they were showing (that game where you can ride a dragon? I don't know any more it was when they first came out) was all they really said about it. I am sure it got some people to buy it but it doesn't seem like a key feature or selling point when its main purpose is for playing video games. I do agree that the garry's mod example was weak, I just couldn't think of a better one at the time as I was busy doing other stuff. It just seems people are making drama over something that is not too big of a deal. The gaming community in general is extremely dramatic.
[QUOTE=kayOkay;21632400]check any advert for the PS3, it will state that the PS3 is a Multi-media platform: watching movies, connecting to the net, playing music, [B]running other OSes[/B]...[/QUOTE] Find me one. Now.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21630771]I did a survey on how many PS3 owners even knew about this feature before it was removed. Out of 100 people, 1 person did.[/QUOTE] By proportional reasoning, 1:100, means that, if there are more than 33.5 million, then there is more than 335,000 people complaining. This may not be accurate but it does give a good representation of what SONY is dealing with. It may seem big, but compare that to 33.5 million. 33,500,000 to 33,500. Very minor numbers, so if those 33,500 got rid of their PS3's, there would be about 33,466,500 still in use. Not much of an impact.
Cool. I hope sony loses. It is cool to have things like this on a console.
I am genuinely surprised that it's come to this. I would have though only 3 people actually used Linux on their PS3.
Jesus will people just leave Sony alone for once! its not like everything they do is bad.
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