Meet the NEETS: They're young and able, but completely unwilling to look for work
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[quote=The Daily Telegraph (Australia)]AN army of young Australians “unwilling to work’’ spends the day sleeping, watching TV or playing computer games — meet the NEETs.
An Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) report says Australia now has 580,000 young people who fall under the classification which stands for “not in employment, education or training’’.
Two young NEETs, Ashleigh, 21, and Amy, 17, from Mt Druitt, would rather spend their days “chilling at maccas” and taking their old Holden Barina on “off-road tracks” than look for a job.
Ashleigh told The Daily Telegraph she would “never get a job”.[/quote]
[quote]The number of NEETs has soared by 100,000 since the •global financial crisis eight years ago and they now account for one in every eight Australians aged 15 to 29. The OECD’s Investing In Youth report is based on data from the federal Employment Department and the government-funded Household, Income and Labour Dynamics (HILDA) survey of 10,000 households.[/quote]
[quote]The report also reveals that 41 per cent of NEETs want a job and are seeking work, [b]40 per cent — or more than 220,000 young Australians — are “inactive and unwilling to work’’[/b], and 19 per cent want a job but aren’t looking.[/quote]
Read more at [url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/meet-the-neets-theyre-young-and-able-but-completely-unwilling-to-look-for-work/news-story/4c73b1b33844ef2f3223dd0bdce30fc7[/url]
[editline]16th September 2016[/editline]
I wish I had time away from work and uni to go off-roading in a Holden Barina haha
[del]Source is paywalling me, can anyone take a screenshot or something[/del]
nevermind, it looks like it fixed itself
may be lazy pricks that are okay to live off government cash and not work. But the fact in Australia is there is jack shit jobs around, Job positions regularly get over 10 thousand applicants where I live.
Being a NEET is the dream. Everyone would be a NEET if they won the lottery
Up to them if they don't want to contribute to society. Life will put them wherever it wants to anyway. I don't endorse the behavior but it doesnt come as a shock either.
Just another thing to make my generation look bad.
Getting a job is hard, getting a good job is harder, getting a good job that pays well is harder still.
Why should people settle for a dead end job with no hopes of it ever getting better? We were taught that we could be anything, in primary school it was all about being an astronaut or professional footballer or a lawyer, now people have to wake up and smell the shit when they realise that even with their degree they're going to be working in a super market or bar on shitty pay with no job security and few future prospects. We were sold a lie. University is expensive and if we do it there's no guarantee of us getting a good job.
Why fight over scraps? Why not enjoy yourself and wait for something more suitable to come along. If it doesn't come along then the system is fucked up not the millennials getting shat on.
i used to be a neet for 3 years due to depression
I got pretty luck with my job and i love it honestly. It doesnt pay well but I've made really good friends with everyone there. Glad my neet life is over
[QUOTE=proboardslol;51058455]Being a NEET is the dream. Everyone would be a NEET if they won the lottery[/QUOTE]
if i didn't have to work or go to school i wouldn't, i would rather ramble around the rest of my life
Honestly, what's out there for most young people right now? I'm employed, have been for my entire adult life, it sucks. I've done more types of work than anyone I know, I've been there, I've done that. The entire working spectrum fucking sucks if you just don't enjoy the work you're doing. The only thing you're trying to do as an adult is find a job that you can bear, you can deal with, that pays well enough to keep you going.
Upward mobility? Not really a thing. One day, I'll sell commercial insurance, and when I do, yeah I'll make nice money, passive income even, but I'll never be "rich", not that I ultimately care about that anymore, I mainly just want to be able to support myself, my wife, and my future kids. That's an ever more difficult dream to achieve in this world.
So for a lot of these kids, I get it. There's not a lot out there for them to make them motivated to get there.
as automation starts taking more and more jobs, we are going to see more and more NEETs. we should be laying the groundwork for universal income [B]now[/B] if we don't want to face major economic crisis
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51058461]Just another thing to make my generation look bad.
Getting a job is hard, getting a good job is harder, getting a good job that pays well is harder still.
Why should people settle for a dead end job with no hopes of it ever getting better? We were taught that we could be anything, in primary school it was all about being an astronaut or professional footballer or a lawyer, now people have to wake up and smell the shit when they realise that even with their degree they're going to be working in a super market or bar on shitty pay with no job security and few future prospects. We were sold a lie. University is expensive and if we do it there's no guarantee of us getting a good job.
Why fight over scraps? Why not enjoy yourself and wait for something more suitable to come along. If it doesn't come along then the system is fucked up not the millennials getting shat on.[/QUOTE]
I know lawyers. I grew up the son of one, I've got two friends who went through Law school, and are lawyers now.
Do you know what they regret?
Ever having decided to be a lawyer. But they're not able to step out of the career because they built their childhoods around it, they built their highschool lives and their entire collegiate life around it, and they've built up debts related to it and they know it's a fucking giant payday when they get the money, but they know they signed a deal to not have a life. Either you put up with monetary issues and you enjoy what you can about your life, or you work yourself to death and find time to enjoy it when you can, if you can.
Some people get lucky and kind of get the best of both worlds. That's not all of us. It can't be.
Being a NEET is the best. Just quit your job and live your life the way you want instead of being a wageslave.
"Alarm clock beeping
Wagecucks weeping
Time for floor sweeping
And burger fIipping
While NEETs are still sleeping
Put on your slave collar
Each hour you earn a dollar
Your dignity level grows ever smaller
Better run fast when customers holler
While the NEET is being a baller"
[QUOTE]would rather spend their days “chilling at maccas” and taking their old Holden Barina on “off-road tracks” than look for a job.[/QUOTE]
I think I'm in love
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51058461]Just another thing to make my generation look bad.
Getting a job is hard, getting a good job is harder, getting a good job that pays well is harder still.
Why should people settle for a dead end job with no hopes of it ever getting better? We were taught that we could be anything, in primary school it was all about being an astronaut or professional footballer or a lawyer, now people have to wake up and smell the shit when they realise that even with their degree they're going to be working in a super market or bar on shitty pay with no job security and few future prospects. We were sold a lie. University is expensive and if we do it there's no guarantee of us getting a good job.
Why fight over scraps? Why not enjoy yourself and wait for something more suitable to come along. If it doesn't come along then the system is fucked up not the millennials getting shat on.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that isn't how the world has ever worked, even when people were "dreaming about being anything" or whatever. The footballers, astronauts, and lawyers of the world certainly didn't get where they are by waiting for the perfect thing to pop up. Because, well... You don't get to sit around on your ass until the "perfect" thing for you falls in your lap, that isn't going to help your situation at all. You work while you "wait for it" or actively work your way towards it. Get the notion that you're entitled to the perfect job because you graduated with X degree out of your head, because you're not.
I work a job that sucks ass. Why? It pays for me to get on my way to a spot in life where I can pay for a continued education, I gain actual knowledge of what it is like to work and the routine that comes with it, and I gain real experience and references/networking I can use to move up, or to something else, one step closer to where I want to be.
Sitting around waiting for the perfect thing to be handed to you is not, and certainly should not, be a viable option. If the millennial idea of getting a job runs contrary to that, then it is fundamentally flawed.
Yeah being a broke ass neet not being able to afford anything is great!
Who pays for the NEET lifestyle?
where do they live?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;51058514]Yeah being a broke ass neet not being able to afford anything is great![/QUOTE]
some people don't care about buying shit beyond food
[editline]15th September 2016[/editline]
those people are lucky bastards, i wish i didn't have the talons of consumerism in me as much as i do
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;51058522]Who pays for the NEET lifestyle?[/QUOTE]
Parents or close relatives, mostly. I'd like to know what happens when those pillars of support disappear. Homelessness? Get themselves put into prison? Welfare checks? Taking on dead end job just to prevent their own starvation?
It probably varies a lot depending on how they take the wake up call and options they know are available.
[editline]15th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51058529]some people don't care about buying shit beyond food
[editline]15th September 2016[/editline]
those people are lucky bastards, i wish i didn't have the talons of consumerism in me as much as i do[/QUOTE]
I've known some people who do employment and unemployment in cycles intentionally. Work for several months and save up, then quit and live of savings for a while being very conservative with purchases.
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51058546]I've known some people who do employment and unemployment in cycles intentionally. Work for several months and save up, then quit and live of savings for a while being very conservative with purchases.[/QUOTE]
that sounds like the best lifestyle for me, i know if i try i can be far more frugal i've just not had much impetus to be so. i guess going to college without having an income certainly will help with that
im part of that 19 percent
I want to get a job but whenever I look for one, I just get depressed
but ill be forced to get one soon so I wont be a neet for much longer
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51058477]as automation starts taking more and more jobs, we are going to see more and more NEETs. we should be laying the groundwork for universal income [B]now[/B] if we don't want to face major economic crisis[/QUOTE]
at least some governments are thinking of starting universal income experiments
i feel sorry for americans though because with the political and cultural situation right now it probably won't happen nationwide until it's far too late
[QUOTE=Naught;51058572]im part of that 19 percent
I want to get a job but whenever I look for one, I just get depressed
but ill be forced to get one soon so I wont be a neet for much longer[/QUOTE]
The idea of working a 9-5 job every day, every week for the rest of my life with only a couple of weeks of vacation every year gives me existensial anxiety.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;51058576]The idea of working a 9-5 job every day, every week for the rest of my life with only a couple of weeks of vacation every year gives me existensial anxiety.[/QUOTE]
luckily you only have to do that for mabye 2-3 decades rather than your entire life. would have been great to have been born even further in the future
Wow that news site is literally the worst user experience. It looks like they hash your session id to force you to either subscribe or view ads. Essentially making linking/viewing news articles a pain.
Also I know they don't use the term Millennial; but this seems like the article is picking on young people.
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There are options for alternative lifestyles if you look for them. For example there are many programs to volunteer in other countries or within your own in exchange for food and a place to stay.
[quote]I'd like to know what happens when those pillars of support disappear. Homelessness? Get themselves put into prison? Welfare checks? Taking on dead end job just to prevent their own starvation?[/quote]
Because of the climate in the Pacific Northwest I see a ton of drifters and transients between 18 and 30 who pretty much travel between Vancouver and Calgary depending on the weather and either bunk under bridges, homeless shelters or crackhouses but as for food and money between panhandling and the soup kitchen they can hold their weight, a ruck sack and at least one dog.
They're always in front of Value Village or the public library bumming for money.
[QUOTE=Aide;51058584]
Also I know they don't use the term Millennial; but this seems like the article is picking on young people.
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I don't take words from a shithead with an awful haircut.
I'm a neet right now and i don't know how people want to be one/one forever.
Pretty shitty not having a job or something to do at least for me.
I'm also pretty sure most young people like myself, don't wanna be a "wage slave"
holy shit why are so many people in this thread
why am I in this thread
oh
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51058546]Parents or close relatives, mostly. I'd like to know what happens when those pillars of support disappear. Homelessness? Get themselves put into prison? Welfare checks? Taking on dead end job just to prevent their own starvation?
It probably varies a lot depending on how they take the wake up call and options they know are available.[/QUOTE]
I have a handful of friends that I'm morbidly curious to see how this plays out for them.
Like I know this one girl who is a massive hypochondriac, daughter of a massive hypochondriac mother, has dropped out of school countless times and ghosts every job she gets after no more than a few months. She goes to the doctor so often it might as well be a hobby, only to be repeatedly told that she's not sick.
Slightly different from a NEET but I'm still curious to know what's going to happen to her in a couple years when she loses access to her mom's health insurance.
Especially after seeing what I have of the world, finding out that going to college was fairly pointless, and that working over 40 hours a week at two jobs is still not enough for me to move out into the world's cheapest apartment. I think I know one, maybe two people my age who have moved out of their parents' homes, and everyone else (including me) has a really shitty relationship with their parents because the parents all expect their kids to have moved out of the house by age 18. And a lot of those parents (including my own) charge their kids rent, I guess as a means to prepare them for "the real world" but really all it does is make it even harder for us to support ourselves.
Being a neet myself, I don't see how someone can want to be one their entire life. Reason behind that is probably because I've done nothing but play video games since june.
Just doesn't feel right not being productive in some way.
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