Are you over the age of 18 and still living with your mama? You are such a bamboccioni.
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apparently Italy is tired of these "losers" freeloading off of their parents.
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LONDON (Jan. 19) -- In many countries, over-18s who refuse to leave the family nest are simply called "losers." But in Italy, they're known by the quainter term "bamboccioni," which roughly translates as "big babies." Millions of young Italians are believed to live this cosseted existence, with their meals cooked and pants ironed by devoted mamas and papas.
Now, a government minister -- who has admitted that his mother made his bed for him until he was 30 -- has called for a new law that will force this generation of eternal adolescents to leave home when they turn 18. "I don't see what's wrong with passing a law that says all over-18s should leave home and not be a drain on their parents' resources," Public Administration Minister Renato Brunetta said during an interview with Italian radio.
Alberto Pizzoli, AFP / Getty Images
Italy's Public Administration Minister, Renato Brunetta, says there ought to be a law against staying at home until the age of 30 -- but admits he did it, too.
His demand for new legislation came after an Italian court told divorced father Giancarlo Casagranda that unless he resumed paying $510 a month to his 32-year-old daughter Marina, who lives with her mother, and coughed up $17,100 in arrears, his assets would be confiscated. That stipend was first set in 1997, when Casagranda split from his wife. But he stopped making payments two years ago, believing his daughter was old enough to look after herself.
The bizarre case was brought by Casagranda's ex-wife, who was able to draw on a Supreme Court ruling that parents, even if separated or divorced, are obliged to pay for their children's upkeep "until they are self-sufficient."
Disconcertingly, few young Italian adults fit that description today. While youngsters traditionally quit the family nest later in Italy than in other European nations, job insecurity and soaring unemployment -- almost 30% of 16- to 24-year-olds are out of work -- has sent numbers of stay-at-homers to record levels. According to the daily La Stampa, almost 60 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds live with their folks, compared with the European Union average of 29%. The newspaper added that about a quarter of those children lived with their parents because they were students, while 50% did so "for economic reasons."
Government minister Brunetta accepts that the Italian government is partly to blame for this situation by failing to cap rents and create new jobs. But he claimed that many of his not-so-young compatriots have simply developed a taste for the easy life. Brunetta admitted he understood the temptation, saying he was now "ashamed" that he didn't bother to learn how to make his own bed and let his mother take "care of things like that" until he left home at 30.
Brunetta's proposal isn't likely to make it into law anytime soon, though. Fellow Cabinet members lined up to shoot it down in the Italian media. Education Minister Mariastella Gelmini, who is pregnant with her first baby, said youngsters "have problems finding jobs, let alone a house of their own, and don't deserve to be defined as bamboccioni."
And Giorgia Meloni, the 33-year-old minister for youth, revealed that she lived with her parents until recently, but had always managed to make her own bed. "I would have preferred to make my own bed in my own house," she said. "But like many other graduates, I could not afford it."
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Source: [url]http://www.sphere.com/world/article/most-italian-20-somethings-still-live-with-mama/19322819[/url]
I actually have an opinion on this one:
To be honest, I think it's a good idea if you stay with your parents till your at least 19-halfway to 20 due to the current Economic climate. Secure jobs are scarce to find and rent for houses/apartments are generally on the rise. I'm lucky that I grew up in a well-to-do family and was able to get support through my mom and such in order to find a good and secured job and find a nice place to live. The stereotype that people who stay with their parents because they are "losers, freeloaders, etc" doesn't apply to EVERYONE that is doing so. One of my friends is 20 and he lives at his parents estate which is situated on 1,200 acres of land and they have a nice, big, guest house in the back that he lives in. He pays his parents rent, does his own laundry, makes up his bed, cleans up after himself, and has a 9-5 job like most average Americans. Just because he may live on his parents land and near his parents house, doesn't mean that he is a complete and total loser for doing so. He's doing it so that he can save a couple hundred bucks a month and put it towards finding a place of his own away from his parents.
TL;DR Don't judge a book by its cover.
This takes Nanny State to a whole new level.
That law being enforced would suck for a good portion of university students who live at home
Mamma! Mamma! I don't want-a work! Can-a I live with you for-a the rest of-a my life?? :q:
Actually, it's not quite as simple as them all being man-children.
Italian culture is extremely family-oriented, and until recently this was outright expected of people.
When are you done school in Italy?
I'm still in high school and I'm 18. :/
On one hand, there are people who will stay unless ousted. For others, its a matter of convenience. If the college you are going to is half an hour away, why pay an extra load of cash every year in dorm if your parents are alright with it? The economy is rough, and the number of jobs that pay well enough that you can live in an apartment without a college education is pretty limited. And lets face it, dorms suck,
Its up to the parents to decide, not the government, so fuck off.
Most parents rather enjoy having their kids with them. Specially if they're decent kids that actually work and go to school or do other activity.
This is pretty retarded. At 18 you're just really beginning your adult life. For many of us, we go to straight to Uni/College. I'll probably stay with my mother till I'm done with college; than I will move out.
You can't expect young kids to just know everything about life, to get an apartment, job and manage college all at once. Not at 18.
I moved back in with my parents after losing my job, and I'm sure the same type of thing is happening to people all over considering the current climate of the job market. Now's not the time to institute a law like this. (Actually, it's never the time. It should be up to the parents.)
Housing prices these days are ridiculous anyways
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(in Australia at least)
Cheaper for me to stay with my mom, she's alone with my brother anyway, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MAN IN THE HOUSE
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19732834]Cheaper for me to stay with my mom, she's alone with my brother anyway, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MAN IN THE HOUSE[/QUOTE]
your 12
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19732834]Cheaper for me to stay with my mom, [B]she's alone with my brother [/B]anyway, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MAN IN THE HOUSE[/QUOTE]
:iceburn:
It's called University, and that I don't want student loans, though I'm moving out this summer, but it's only because I'm going to be splitting rent 3 ways.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;19732913]You're 12
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what no you idiot
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it is a compliment
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your three
How would they enforce it? There's gonna be a lot more homeless people in Italy.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;19732943]what no you idiot
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your three[/QUOTE]
your dumb. :v:
Well it depends, I know many 18 - 19 year olds that still live with there parents, but it is not there choosing. There still in High School, they are seniors.
I'm a terrible person. :gonk:
Shit.
I live within walking distance of my college. Practically a stone's throw. The housing prices, despite a massive dip following the burst of the housing bubble are astronomical. The nearest place I'd be able to rent at a sane rate would be almost 10 miles away. With some roommates splitting the cost maybe 5. But still not as convenient.
Even if everyone thinks I'm a complete loser for having the support of my parents there is no reason why I should spend more money to live in a place that is less convenient for my needs. Especially considering how much bad luck I've been having in regards to finding work.
How does a 30yr old guy get laid at his parents' house? "Come on back to my mom's place with me, she should be asleep by now"? "When you blow me don't make slurping noises or it'll wake up my dad and he'll be angry"? "You can stay the night, I have bunk beds in my room"?
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;19735612]How does a 30yr old guy get laid at his parents' house? "Come on back to my mom's place with me, she should be asleep by now"? "When you blow me don't make slurping noises or it'll wake up my dad and he'll be angry"? "You can stay the night, I have bunk beds in my room"?[/QUOTE]
Fuck the chick in the woods behind the bar like everyone else :colbert:
[QUOTE=Bean-O;19735335]I live within walking distance of my college. Practically a stone's throw. The housing prices, despite a massive dip following the burst of the housing bubble are astronomical. The nearest place I'd be able to rent at a sane rate would be almost 10 miles away. With some roommates splitting the cost maybe 5. But still not as convenient.
Even if everyone thinks I'm a complete loser for having the support of my parents there is no reason why I should spend more money to live in a place that is less convenient for my needs. Especially considering how much bad luck I've been having in regards to finding work.[/QUOTE]
This. I still live with my parents(for now, it's rocky) and going to college is a bit of a commute, but there's no way in hell, I, or any 2 of my friends could afford a place close to my college/anyhwere without serious financial aid. Housing/apartment markets are just extremely expensive everywhere right now.
i save over £1000 a month in expenses by living with my mother and after paying my part of the bills and food etc ( im 21 ) that allows me to buy a new car and pretty much whatever i want that i normally wouldn't be able to afford with my own house which are way overpriced in britain as it is for first time buyers, sure im saving up to eventually move but until say a proper relationship comes along i see no problem with this.
I didn't move out of my house.
My mum moved out of the house instead.
What the actual fuck. What the hell makes the government think they have the right to evict people from their family's homes?
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