'Deeply offensive' - Senior Conservatives tell David Cameron to shut the fuck up about withdrawing f

[smurfy]

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/may/27/threat-exit-human-rights-act-convention-dropped-tories-cameron[/url]
[quote]Senior Tories are telling David Cameron he must abandon a “deeply offensive” threat to withdraw from the European convention on human rights if he is to win support for his plans to repeal the Human Rights Act.

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One senior Tory said: “If the prime minister wants these plans to work then he has got to remove the deeply offensive threat to withdraw from the ECHR. There is no way the Conservatives can propose that – we wrote the convention for heaven’s sake. Think of David Maxwell Fyfe [the future Tory lord chancellor the Earl of Kilmuir who drafted the convention]. It is very simple. These plans will only pass if the prime minister wins the support of David Davis and Ken Clarke.”

Michael Gove, the new justice secretary who is expected to outline his plans for the new British bill of rights in the autumn, regards the Grayling document as a starting point. Gove is making it clear that he is bound by the Tory manifesto which says the party will scrap the HRA and replace it with the bill of rights, which will “remain faithful to the basic principles of human rights which we signed up to in the original European convention on human rights”. But he is also saying he is not bound by the Grayling document.

Dominic Grieve, the former attorney general, led a group of senior Tories who warned of the dangers of withdrawing from the convention or even of distancing the UK from the document drawn up in the wake of the second world war. Grieve told MPs: “If we are in fact going to dilute those rights, and present the British public with something which is in fact the convention shorn of some of the protections it affords the citizens, then the consequences for the convention will be catastrophic. Other countries which have previously because of our leverage on them been willing to improve their human rights will cease to do it and one of the most powerful tools for improving human rights will be irrevocably damaged and I find it impossible to see how that can be in our national interest.”[/quote]

[Curls]

I'm sorry if I'm ignorant but how bad is withdrawing from the ECHR?

[editline]27th May 2015[/editline]

ok I'll just google it

[url]http://www.echr.coe.int/pages/home.aspx?p=basictexts[/url]

The European Convention on Human Rights

wow fuck off

[The mouse]

The only other country in Europe outside of the ECHR is Belarus :v:

[karimatrix]

[QUOTE=The mouse;47818718]The only other country in Europe outside of the ECHR is Belarus :v:[/QUOTE]

And Ukraine although only partially in Donbass

[url]http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/266980.html[/url]

And official Ukranian Rada rep

[url]http://rada.gov.ua/en/news/News/110107.html[/url]

[Missing User]

The title made me think that a conservative actually told Cameron to shut the fuck up.

[MrEndangered]

[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47818757]The title made me think that a conservative actually told Cameron to shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE]

It's basically as good-as.

[Source]

This is just dirty tactics tbh, they voted once......we stayed in.....that should be the end of it. Instead of this going behind peoples backs shit just because he has house majority so he knows this has a better chance of getting through now, corrupt cunts. Last i checked MPs are meant to represent they're constituency and i can't remember the last time they actually did.