I wonder if a person does somthing bad or something else, does he/she deserve another chance?
->Norwegian prison/Detainment is based around that everyone deserves another chance, even the worst bunch.
I would like to know your opinons, and if i can believe myself; that i deserve another chance.
I think people deserve a second chance if they work for it.
If somebody is truly trying to change or make up for what they did, then yes.
Only if they try to make an effort to try to right their wrong.
Thanks for the opinons, seems like its just one answer; We deserve another chance if we really mean it.
Crazy lady from [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1158259"]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1158259[/URL]
does not deserve another chance.
It comes down to what their crime was.
This I can't put into words well.
But things such as pedophilia which is a mental disorder make it harder to give a second chance, because being a mental disorder they don't have control over it. Pedophilia can probably be treated after a long while though, but it would require lots of help and work. If the person simply went to jail then was released, nothing would change.
[QUOTE=coolsteve;34414963]It comes down to what their crime was.
This I can't put into words well.
But things such as pedophilia which is a mental disorder make it harder to give a second chance, because being a mental disorder they don't have control over it. Pedophilia can probably be treated after a long while though, but it would require lots of help and work. If the person simply went to jail then was released, nothing would change.[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Kryzech;34413113]Crazy lady from [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1158259"]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1158259[/URL]
does not deserve another chance.[/QUOTE]
She had like a dozen chances and she blew them all.
It's statistically retarded to judge someone on an initial failure.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;34429826]It's statistically retarded to judge someone on an initial failure.[/QUOTE]
literally, in that it slows down the formation of legitimate statistics on how people perform after screwing up because instead of being out there and proving themselves, they're locked in a cell or dead
Let's Give Anders Breivik a second Chance
Giving another chance to everyone isn't always the best idea.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons[/url]
Only if they are fully committed to fixing themselves.
[QUOTE=Blazyd;34439076]Only if they are fully committed to fixing themselves.[/QUOTE]
I find this attitude kind of interesting. When someone commits a crime, the state takes custody of them. They no longer have the same freedoms as we do, most apparent of all the freedom to right their wrongs. (You can't do that from within a cell)
So shouldn't it be the state's responsibility to ensure rehabilitation?
The Norwegian system, for example, is a lot more open and involves more interaction with society on the part of inmates so rehabilitation on their own accord is possible. But in the American system, inmates are isolated from society. It seems hypocritical and frankly rather ignorant to expect inmates of the American criminal justice system to rehabilitate themselves when your government does not afford them the opportunity to do so.
It's also an interesting bit of irony (I think it's irony) that this attitude is becoming increasingly more exclusive to America. Elsewhere, people recognize the role of the state in rehabilitation.
No. No one [b]deserves[/b] another chance. No amount of work and effort will undo any crime. It is up to the mercy and forgiveness of others as to whether we grant them one. Thankfully, people are more forgiving than not.
I believe it depends on the crime and the circumstances surrounding the crime; but, in general if possible people should be given a second, and perhaps even a third chance depending on the crime.
Sure, I give second chances.
Third chances though? Not really
I mean, if the person made a mistake, at least let them make up for it. If they did it again, they're idiots for not learning the first time.
[QUOTE=minilandstan;34441578]Sure, I give second chances.
Third chances though? Not really
I mean, if the person made a mistake, at least let them make up for it. If they did it again, they're idiots for not learning the first time.[/QUOTE]
Three strikes, you're out. Works everywhere.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34439152]I find this attitude kind of interesting. When someone commits a crime, the state takes custody of them. They no longer have the same freedoms as we do, most apparent of all the freedom to right their wrongs. (You can't do that from within a cell)
So shouldn't it be the state's responsibility to ensure rehabilitation?
The Norwegian system, for example, is a lot more open and involves more interaction with society on the part of inmates so rehabilitation on their own accord is possible. But in the American system, inmates are isolated from society. It seems hypocritical and frankly rather ignorant to expect inmates of the American criminal justice system to rehabilitate themselves when your government does not afford them the opportunity to do so.
It's also an interesting bit of irony (I think it's irony) that this attitude is becoming increasingly more exclusive to America. Elsewhere, people recognize the role of the state in rehabilitation.[/QUOTE]
I like some of the ideas that some places in the US has, like letting prisoners volunteer to help in the fire service and stuff like that.
If they are willing to change, then yes.
I believe that [B][I]EVERYONE[/I][/B] deserves at least a few extra chances. I know I honestly fucked highschool bad, got suspended for racism once, fighting all the time. But I finally realized what a fucking idiot I was being and came around. Also, the racism was me just being mad and trying to make them upset, stupid girl kept chunking food at me in the cafeteria, so no im not a racist :v:
But if you are honestly just taking advantage of people's good nature then no, no more chances.
As long as they try. I mean if Osama had sent messages to all the families apologizing, along with some of his personal wealth, then surrendering him self and his people to the authorities, I may have felt bad if they outright shot him and not life prison or something.
But then again, I am an over sympathetic idiot and would probably be fine if he just said sorry.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34460779]he was found to be legally insane, so yes, if he is ever "cured" of crazy, he can have a second chance.[/QUOTE]
Everyone deserves another chance, as long he/she really is in for it. Even if its hard to let him get another chance.
I think that most people deserve a second chance, however people such as sadistic murderers, where the risk of the possibility they will commit the crime again is too much of a risk, I believe should remain imprisoned. Not as revenge, but for the safety of society.
Dead people can't redeem themselves. So yes.
Anders Behring Breivik is a mass murderer.
So why not give him another chance?
[QUOTE=tomatmann;34524034]Anders Behring Breivik is a mass murderer.
So why not give him another chance?[/QUOTE]
That Troy Davis guy shot a cop too, why give him a second chance?
[QUOTE=Jookia;34524618]That Troy Davis guy shot a cop too, why give him a second chance?[/QUOTE]
you obviously never read or heard about what Anders behring breivik did.
he never shot Amy police officer. ONLY white and non whites children.
no
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