"Sum Tin Wong Apple?" Asian Smart Phone Producers Continue to Take Roots in Asia - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.advandigital.com/catalog/productCategory/browseProducts/id/smart-phone"] Advan Digital[/URL],[URL="http://www.smartfren.com/ina/home/"]Smartfren[/URL], [URL="http://www.ninetology.com/v2/"]Ninetology[/URL] and [URL="http://www.cherrymobile.com.ph/"]Cherry Mobile[/URL] are popular Southeast Asian smartphone producers. Little known outside their home markets of Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines, are amongst the brands valiantly kicking down Samsung's backdoor. [QUOTE]That’s because the typically Android-powered devices offer increasingly robust performance and are often several hundred dollars cheaper than Samsung’s high-end phones, according to Tom Kang, an analyst at Hong Kong-based data tracker Counterpoint Technology Market Research. While Samsung is still the dominant power globally with 25% of smartphone market share, its lead has been slipping in Indonesia, where Advan has captured 7% of the market and Smarfren has carved out 5% as of June, according to Counterpoint data. Samsung commands 22% of the Indonesian smartphone market, but that’s down from 30% in June 2013. In Malaysia, Ninetology has vaulted over [URL="http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=AAPL"]Apple[/URL] [URL="http://blogs.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=AAPL?mod=inlineTicker"]AAPL +1.30%[/URL] to claim 7% of the market, while Samsung has plummeted from 35% to 18% during the period. And in the Philippines, Cherry Mobile has achieved 13% market share — just two percentage points behind Samsung. Local rivals are also gaining in Thailand and Vietnam. Apple, meanwhile, has lost market share in some Southeast Asian countries but gained in others, thanks to prices dropping on its older devices. [/QUOTE] - [URL="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/08/11/in-southeast-asia-samsungs-pain-is-low-cost-makers-gain/?mod=ST1"]WSJ[/URL]. [QUOTE]Samsung was overtaken by Chinese upstart smartphone maker Xiaomi as the number one smartphone vendor in China in the second quarter, according to research by Canalys.Fitch forecast India and China to account for over 60 percent of growth in smartphone shipment volumes in 2015, which will put both Apple and Samsung under increasing pressure. "Apple is limited in market share by its inability to hit lower price points," Daniel Gleeson, mobile analyst at IHS, told CNBC in a phone interview. "For Samsung the issue is a lot trickier. The problem is that you have a lot of low cost Android brands in countries like China and India which is eating in to its market share at the low end of the market. And the high end of the market is just saturated." [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cnbc.com/id/101913129#."][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#424858]-CNBC[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] Is Samsung being beaten by glorified local "bootleggers" or is it that people are simply capitalizing on the large company's negative space? Will this smart phone trend take root outside of Asia, or will it be contained by access to low cost labour? Am I completely fucking wrong? Find More News at Noon, Stay Tuned -HighChief

It's like the PC revolution in the 80's. Once the designs and standards were down pat it was up to Taiwan and China to clone the market until the bottom fell out.

[QUOTE=pentium;45668688]It's like the PC revolution in the 80's. Once the designs and standards were down pat it was up to Taiwan and China to clone the market until the bottom fell out.[/QUOTE] Is that how Toshiba came to be?

Not exactly. For many years Toshiba manufactured electronic components such as integrated circuits and magnetrons but when the asian clone invasion was in full swing it wasn't hard for them to OEM a clone and sell that. Eventually they began building their own computers in-house and their computer division took off from there. They and Sharp are infamous for their ten pound laptops.

[QUOTE=pentium;45669486]Not exactly. For many years Toshiba manufactured electronic components such as integrated circuits and magnetrons but when the asian clone invasion was in full swing it wasn't hard for them to OEM a clone and sell that. Eventually they began building their own computers in-house and their computer division took off from there. They and Sharp are infamous for their ten pound laptops.[/QUOTE] So what companies have emerged from cloning?

[QUOTE=Hollosoulja;45670877]So what companies have emerged from cloning?[/QUOTE] Interested in this also

[QUOTE=Hollosoulja;45670877]So what companies have emerged from cloning?[/QUOTE] Yes, more information please.

Okay then, I shall open up a copy of my July 1986 issue of Asian Sources' Computer Products and pull off a list of companies. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/chart-1.jpg[/IMG] You might recognize a few but about 95% of them have either merged with others or simply gone bankrupt. In other words, the clone market then was not sustainable in the long term.

[QUOTE=pentium;45674474]Okay then, I shall open up a copy of my July 1986 issue of Asian Sources' Computer Products and pull off a list of companies. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/chart-1.jpg[/IMG] You might recognize a few but about 95% of them have either merged with others or simply gone bankrupt. In other words, the clone market then was not sustainable in the long term.[/QUOTE] I wonder if that's the same logitech. Also those company names are priceless in themselves.

I'll let you decide. It only takes a minute to scan the page. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/chart-2.jpg[/IMG] No surprise, all they are selling is generic clone boards.

Considering Ninetology's flagship model has a 1.2Ghz Quad-core processor and 1GB ram for about USD150, I see no reason for people to not buy it.

[QUOTE=pentium;45675217]I'll let you decide. It only takes a minute to scan the page. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/chart-2.jpg[/IMG] No surprise, all they are selling is generic clone boards.[/QUOTE] uh does that logo say 'logitach'

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3XL4SkP.jpg[/IMG]

I don't think the chinese speekee engrish in the title was a necessary joke to make.

[QUOTE=pentium;45668688]It's like the PC revolution in the 80's. Once the designs and standards were down pat it was up to Taiwan and China to clone the market until the bottom fell out.[/QUOTE] Its only the OS taking over at this point though, the architecture the OS is running on is still no where near being standardised. Its something I really would like to see happen over the next few years.