North Korea launches missile from submarine, South Korea says
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[quote]North Korea fired what is believed to be a submarine-launched ballistic missile off the east coast of the Korean peninsula, the South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff said Saturday.
The missile was fired at 6:30 p.m. Saturday (5:30 a.m. ET), South Korean officials said, and appears to have flown about 30 km (about 19 miles) -- well short of the 300 km (roughly 186 miles) that would be considered a successful test.
North Korean state news agency KCNA claimed the launch was successful, and said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "guided on the spot the underwater test-fire of strategic submarine ballistic missile."[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/23/asia/north-korea-launches-missile-from-submarine/index.html[/url]
Watch as nothing happens.
Again. :v:
[QUOTE=shinyarceus4;50190143]Watch as nothing happens.
Again. :v:[/QUOTE]
Nothing will happen but it is worrying. NK is growing more technologically advanced as time passes at a decent pace.
its ok though
[quote]North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "guided on the spot the underwater test-fire of strategic submarine ballistic missile."[/quote]
all we have to do is distract him, so he can't personally guide every single missile
the scary thing about north korea is that there's no telling who they'd attack, either the south, china, or japan, thousands would be killed from any sort of preemptive strike
[Quote]"North Korea's sub launch capability has gone from a joke to something very serious,"[/quote] is what the guy actually says in the artucle.
I don't understand what the NK endgame could possibly be? Are they shooting for MAD - a nuke detterent? They can't possibly want it for offense. As soon as they launch something and it is linked to them they will get basically glassed.
[QUOTE=shinyarceus4;50190143]Watch as nothing happens.
Again. :v:[/QUOTE]
this kind of attitude was fun a few years ago, but in my opinion it's all a bit worrying now
[QUOTE=Morgen;50190153]Nothing will happen but it is worrying. NK is growing more technologically advanced as time passes at a decent pace.[/QUOTE]
just because the threat is very small doesn't mean you shouldn't be scared. a threat is a threat and a threat can cause a huge tragedy.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50190174]I don't understand what the NK endgame could possibly be? Are they shooting for MAD - a nuke detterent? They can't possibly want it for offense. As soon as they launch something and it is linked to them they will get basically glassed.[/QUOTE]
They do something crazy, get the west to give them some sort of aid package to stop, and repeat.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50190192]They do something crazy, get the west to give them some sort of aid package to stop, and repeat.[/QUOTE]
How is that supposed to work with nukes? I'm pretty sure they will get invaded or bombed into the stone age if they even so much as launch a missile with a trajectory in our direction.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50190174]I don't understand what the NK endgame could possibly be? Are they shooting for MAD - a nuke detterent? They can't possibly want it for offense. As soon as they launch something and it is linked to them they will get basically glassed.[/QUOTE]
North Korea is banking on a proposition that was very nearly true for Nazi Germany.
That the mere threat of war, the cost of life and material, is too much for other nations to endure.
Thanks to our current, nuclear, age that threat is significantly more true than it was when Germany was desperately hoping the so-called weak and flabby nations like Britain, America and France would throw in the towel. (France, to some extent, did.)
Everyone with a real grasp of the facts in North Korea is as aware as everyone with the same grasp in the rest of the world, of what would happen. Casualties would quickly enter the hundred of thousands, then millions. Refugees would flood the surrounding countries. So many aspects of life and society would be impacted to the point that stories about it would sound like a World War veteran starts any story, "well you see before the war."
They know this, and they're happy to play on it. For them, the cost of war is relatively low. Something just above, but not much higher than, their own lives. For anyone else, for South Korea, Japan, China, even America to an extent, that cost is significantly higher.
So it's a very smart wager to bet their lives in a heavily weighted gamble. They bet that others would rather give in to their demands rather than face even a very short war. Particularly when those demands are fundamentally inconsequential, in broad terms.
the bad feeling i have had about north korea continues to grow
Not gonna lie, the thought of unrestricted submarine warfare against North Korea is fucking hilarious.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;50190160]is what the guy actually says in the artucle.[/QUOTE]
What's the difference? NK's sub launch capabilities is not a separate entity from NK itself. If that is a more serious threat, then NK as a whole becomes a more serious threat.
Honestly, i'm not as scared for myself or America as i am for the NK and SK citizens. Really hoping this ends without a drop of their blood.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50190192]They do something crazy, get the west to give them some sort of aid package to stop, and repeat.[/QUOTE]
normally yes, however with Xi trying to be the strong man of Asia, and lil' Kim being a constant annoyance to him, it doesn't bode well. Even though the chinese censor their media, people there have to be worried about North Korea going nuts, you can't bottle up news of someone detonating nukes just over your boarder
[editline]23rd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190340]Not gonna lie, the thought of unrestricted submarine warfare against North Korea is fucking hilarious.[/QUOTE]
what like all 5 ships? they lost their brand new submarine just a while ago as it went out to sea and promptly sank
-oh god wrong thread
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190416]I think we should erect a fifty foot containment wall around Syria and make it into the one maximum security prison for the entire middle east.[/QUOTE]
:what:
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190416]I think we should erect a fifty foot containment wall around Syria and make it into the one maximum security prison for the entire middle east.[/QUOTE]
Get me Kurt Russell.
Escape From Syria is gonna be the best movie ever.
Apparently some mod disapproved of my title, for whatever reason.
i think they finally might of figured out the problem
nk launches from land -> crashes in sea
nk launches from sea -> hits land(???)
nk's top men at work.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50190447]Apparently some mod disapproved of my title, for whatever reason.[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming they thought it was misleading.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190416]I think we should erect a fifty foot containment wall around Syria and make it into the one maximum security prison for the entire middle east.[/QUOTE]
Walls are always a great solution. As evidenced by the one in Berlin.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50190454]I'm assuming they thought it was misleading.[/QUOTE]
The quote was paraphrased (a couple words taken out to make the title smaller), but the meaning remained the same.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190416]I think we should erect a fifty foot containment wall around Syria and make it into the one maximum security prison for the entire middle east.[/QUOTE]
wrong uh... wrong thread, we already have the DMZ which is practically the arena from the hunger games, except with way more landmines
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50190476]Walls are always a great solution. As evidenced by the one in Berlin.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/mtLi5ok.png[/img]
:v:
On topic though. I really do hope we get something done to nip these fuckers in the ass. This shits getting out of hand.
If they develop competent submarine launch options their nuclear capability is a whole hell of a lot more powerful.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50190501]
On topic though. I really do hope we get something done to nip these fuckers in the ass. This shits getting out of hand.
If they develop competent submarine launch options their nuclear capability is a whole hell of a lot more powerful.[/QUOTE]
well, yes and no...
where would they go with a nuclear armed submarine, remember they would be using conventional diesel/electric, even with Li+ batteries and modern materials, if our subs can't hear them loud and clear then we seriously have a problem, and even then, once they set off, they wouldn't be able to make it to the US west coast without being tracked, they could make it to japan but we should be able to track them again, and using it to attack south korea doesn't make much sense since their conventional weapons would be much more effective. their sub launched missiles are only good for a few dozen miles so far, even a hundred miles wouldn't be effective either
I'm wondering what our immediate response would be if NK just started intentionally polluting and poisoning the pacific in an attempt to fuck with the rest of us, which they could probably do for a while before we picked up on it and could prevent it.
Or if they developed salted nukes, the potential damage they could do by sabotaging the environment could potentially be more deadly than any out right attack in human deaths, not even mentioning the environmental fallout (With the obvious draw back that they'd be destroying themselves in the process).
What exactly would we do? Would we treat it as an attack and invade in an attempt to mitigate long term damage, or try diplomatic options whilst they slowly poisoned future generation's food production?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50190220]the bad feeling i have had about north korea continues to grow[/QUOTE]
I had a dream of a war with North Korea a few years back. There were troops on the beach and a rock with a bloody hand print. Everyone in my house hold had it that day.
However realize this happens every time America under goes a presidential election year. I remember they did this when Clinton first gained office. Then with Bush when he first came into office. Then Obama
They trying to scare the new comer (or rookie) in giving them money. Its called nuclear blackmail for a reason.
If you want to help North Korean refugees, donate to libertyinnorthkorea.org or nkinusa.org
If you want to read about North Korean refugees, I suggest reading "In Order to Live" by Yeonmi Park.
I also have a copy of "Go go nippon! My first trip to japan" for the first person who shows me a receipt for donating at least $5 to either charity
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